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CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:35 PM Apr 2016

Can anyone count the total regular delegates won by Sanders from open primary states?

I'm not able to use Internet right now...

If we look only at delegates, not super-delegates, and for primary states that allow Independents to vote...

...wouldn't we be ahead?

I'm thinking we would, and I'm thinking that these numbers would be far more representative of what happens against the GOP.

What do you all think?

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Can anyone count the total regular delegates won by Sanders from open primary states? (Original Post) CentralCoaster Apr 2016 OP
Lol. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #1
Smartphone, tiny screen, sketchy signal. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #4
:) northernsouthern Apr 2016 #6
I'm very well versed in tech but my giant fingers on a tiny screen, ewwww. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #7
The place I found the easiest to get high detail quickly is northernsouthern Apr 2016 #8
But if you are being serious... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #2
Dang... SoapBox Apr 2016 #3
Looking for data that best predicts the general. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #5
Based on the current Wiki numbers... Bernin4U Apr 2016 #9
Awesome, thanks! That's not a very large gap, is it? CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #10
Don't disrespect the South! TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #11
Proud to be part of that WA +47 (nt) pokerfan Apr 2016 #14
This: CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #15
Results by Type of Primary/Caucus Liberalator Apr 2016 #12
Thank you! CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #13
 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
1. Lol.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

That is a bunch of work since many states are still allocating, so each site has its own numbers. I have a spreadsheet at home but even that one is off with possible gains by Bernie in a few states as the consolidate the delegates.

P.S. I was Loling about I'm not able to use Internet right now...
Go to greenpapers for delegates you lazy lazy person.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
6. :)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

Ok I will buy that one, I used that line on troll here the other day to make him post links, but I said I did not know how to use google.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
7. I'm very well versed in tech but my giant fingers on a tiny screen, ewwww.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

After I get back to my Mac I can do some work on my own, hoped someone might have it handy.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
2. But if you are being serious...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

You can't really use primaries. It has pretty much been said multiple times they are not representative of the actual election. Plus open and closed are less a call on the race, but it is 100% turn out. Every win of Bernie's has been close to or above 2008. Polls are your best bet, and he is winning in them all for vs Trump.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
3. Dang...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

I just saw a graphic this morning and of course now can't find it...

It was surprising, if looking only at delegates (sans superdelegates) it's close...and there are about 1600 delegates left.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
9. Based on the current Wiki numbers...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

If you eliminate Closed Primaries, it's H 1063 vs B 953.

If you eliminate Semi-closed Primaries (Registered Dems or undelcared only), it's H 931 to B 825.

TX, GA, and AL are all open primary states that gave her +72, +44, and +35 respectively. Bernie's single biggest win was WA at +47.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
10. Awesome, thanks! That's not a very large gap, is it?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

And, if we took deep red states out of the picture I imagine we look better.

Those states are going to go to the GOP anyway, how we did in the primaries isn't so important to the general.

Thanks for the numbers!

Liberalator

(74 posts)
12. Results by Type of Primary/Caucus
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:45 PM
Apr 2016

The Wikipedia Democratic Party Presidential Primaries 2016 site (21 Apr 2016):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

The page breaks the Democratic primaries into 8 categories:
(1) Closed Primary (CP) (5) (Sanders 1 win; Clinton 4 wins)
(2) Semi-Closed Primary (SCP) (4) (Sanders 2 wins; Clinton 2 wins)
(3) Semi-Open Primary (SOP) (1) (Sanders 0 wins; Clinton 1 win)
(4) Open Primary (OP) (13) (Sanders 3 wins; Clinton 10 wins)
(5) Closed Caucus (CC) (9) (Sanders 6 wins; Clinton 3 wins)
(6) Semi-Closed Caucus (SCC)(1) (Sanders 1 win; Clinton 0 wins)
(7) Semi-Open Caucus (SOC) (2) (Sanders 1 win; Clinton 1 win)
(8) Open Caucus (OC) (3) (Sanders 3 wins; Clinton 0 wins)
Total: 38 (Sanders 17 wins; Clinton 21 wins)

Total Delegates:
Sanders: 1205
Clinton: 1446

Closed Primary:
Sanders: 237
Clinton: 363

Semi-Closed Primary:
Sanders: 128
Clinton: 132

Semi-Open Primary:
Sanders: 62
Clinton: 81

Open Primary:
Sanders: 441
Clinton: 678

Total Primaries:
Sanders: 868
Clinton: 1254

Total Closed/Semi-Closed Primaries:
Sanders: 365
Clinton: 495

Total Open/Semi-Open Primaries:
Sanders: 503
Clinton: 759

Closed Caucus:
Sanders: 134
Clinton: 92

Semi-Closed Caucus:
Sanders: 17
Clinton: 8

Semi-Open Caucus:
Sanders: 48
Clinton: 29

Open Caucus:
Sanders: 138
Clinton: 63

Total Caucuses:
Sanders: 337
Clinton: 192

Total Closed/Semi-Closed Caucuses:
Sanders: 151
Clinton: 100

Total Open/Semi-Open Caucuses:
Sanders: 186
Clinton: 92


Total Closed/Semi-Closed Primaries and Caucuses:
Sanders: 516
Clinton: 595

Total Open/Semi-Open Primaries and Caucuses:
Sanders: 689
Clinton: 851

Total Closed Primaries and Caucuses:
Sanders: 371
Clinton: 455

Total Open Primaries and Caucuses:
Sanders: 579
Clinton: 741

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
13. Thank you!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

He's definitely viable and I agree with the pollsters that he would be stronger in the general than Clinton.

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