Things Are Not As Bad As the Propaganda Machine Make Them Out To Be In NY!!

[LovingA2andMI]

First, LOOK AT THIS:



Want Some BETTER NEWS FOLKS.....

DRUMROLL.....

"Bernie has won he won 50 of 62 counties in New York. Guess what that means! By PROPORTIONAL DELEGATION by CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS - it is a possibly Bernie might WIN more Delegates or Hillary's overall gain might be 15+ or LESS".

Before folks are throwing themselves at the heels of the Clinton News Network and MSNBillClinton -- They Would Be WISE to Remember How the PROPORTIONAL DELEGATION by CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS thingy, works.

Thank You the 50 Counties outside of NYC for CARRYING THE NIGHT for Bernie Sanders​! You Gave Our Guy The Fighting Chance He Needed Tonight!

Oh and Buffalo (Erie County) is within a 300 vote margin.

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[Skink]

1. Great news

[bjo59]

15. Thank you or this.

[Ed Suspicious]

2. Great news but

it is a possibly Bernie might WIN more Delegates or Hillary's overall gain might be 15+ or LESS".

is beyond my ability to comprehend. I guess they covered all their bases with this bold prediction.

[appalachiablue]

3. Thanks for the reality, great news! Thank You New York!

WE continue the fight for A Future to Believe In.

[Else You Are Mad]

4. Honestly...

I would love to see the statistics on those that were disenfranchised and removed from the Democratic polls when compared to the few -- rather rich -- counties that went to Hillary.

[Silver_Witch]

5. Thank you LovingA2andMI...

Much appreciate pep-talk.

We are still hanging in there and hoping for the very best!

[JDPriestly]

6. K&R.

My standard was that if Bernie did better than 40% in New York State he has done very, very well.

That's supposed to be Hillary's home turf. Her results are not good compared to Bernie's 86% in his home state Vermont.

Bernie. We are ready to continue. Keep up the fight.

We are starting a movement. This is not just about this election.

Here in California, people have been making a lot of calls to other states. We want the chance to organize as Progressives, get to know each other, and form a movement here. We want Bernie to fight on until he wins.

Feel the Bern!

I've had many fights in my life. If you give up or get discouraged, you prevent miracles from happening. If you continue, you never know what will happen.

I've seen a lot of amazing things in my life.

Bernie. Feel the Bern! This one's for you.

[PADemD]

7. Erie County still has 54 precincts to report.

[snagglepuss]

8. VVow. Truly shocking that M$M makes no mention

of this. Even though its clear as day its a propaganda machine, some stuff like this still shocks. Thanks soooo much for the update.

[TM99]

9. The Green Paper breakdown right

now is as follows --

Clinton = 133
Sanders = 104
Uncommitted = 44
Still Available = 10

So right now there is a +29 delegate lead after Clinton's win in New York.

That is all, and it can & will change.

The propaganda will not stop. It is designed to disenfranchise us, to demoralize us, and to dismiss us as the radical left.

The spin is always that when Clinton wins, it is a YUGE win that shows that Democrats and the left are united behind her. And that could not be further from the truth. The Left is terribly divided. I even saw this on TYT tonight. Two said they would vote the LOTE and two said they would not.

That kind of break down will lose the GE for the left. There has never been a more polarizing and unfavorable candidate than Hillary Clinton. Period.

[cantbeserious]

14. IMHO - A Vote For HRC In The Primary Is A Vote For Trump In The General - Trump Can Easily Win

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[LovingA2andMI]

16. The Green Papers...

Contain the most ACCURATE Delegation Count about this Primary Election. If folks want to view for self, here's a link:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/NY-D#0419

[TM99]

19. Yes, they do.

Thanks for providing the link. I should have done so.

They update it every step of the way and are by far the most unbiased in their reporting of the correct delegate counts.

[RichVRichV]

30. DAMMIT!!!

I spent all last night tracking the delegate count using the outdated state delegate plan. Why do they make the updated versions so hard to find?!

[LovingA2andMI]

32. Just Bookmark...

"The Green Papers". Never trust the MSM Propaganda Machine for an accurate Delegation Allocation Count. Ever!

[Dragonfli]

10. K&R, I live in New York, and still don't understand the delegate math, but if the count

gained by Clinton merely equals the count gained by sanders recently in the latter stages of a few of the caucuses, this may be a problem, but not an insurmountable one, specially if California is as liberal as advertised.

On a side note, interesting that Buffalo is so close (300 votes), I live in Buffalo and had my affiliation changed for me by some sort of "clerical error".

I have voted by a different method that may or may not be counted depending upon the outcome of the things beyond my control, Buffalo is a middle sized City, not a small one. I find it quite possible that at least 300 others had the same affiliation scam pulled on them as well.

I have reported my issue with every organization and principality that would take my information and complaint, perhaps that will count for something.

[nc4bo]

21. New York Times delegate count is 139 Clinton/106 Sanders so far. Big Win?!

He is still right in there.

Keep Bernin!

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. She won only 12 out of 62 counties in her own home state?

Incredible!

Bernie kicked ASS in NY!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Sandersdemocrat2020]

12. Thanks For This Thread

That County by County map of New York State needs to be spread around the Internet ASAP. We need to Counter the Propaganda that the Establishment types are putting out. Keep on fighting the good fight!

[cantbeserious]

13. Note The Correlation To Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse And New York City

All four areas have substantial POC populations.

Seems the fix is in between the HRC campaign and POC.

One can only wonder why POC find the Clinton's attractive allies.

Also note the correlation between affluent Long Island and New York City suburbs.

Seems the 1% are backing HRC which is not puzzling.

[LovingA2andMI]

17. Fair Point....

Along with why would a so-called New York Candidate, lose 50 out of 62 counties in what was claimed to be "Her" home state?

[Admiral Loinpresser]

22. That is changing.

Overthrowing an oligarchy with every legal and illegal advantage isn't easy.

[cantbeserious]

23. One Wonders If POC Support Is Based On The Clinton Foundation Shuffling Money To POC Churches

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[Admiral Loinpresser]

24. I believe the divide is generational.

Young people with few prospects get it. Many old people don't.

[DemocracyDirect]

27. I was wondering the same thing.

As the old saying goes ... follow the money.

[Nyan]

18. K & R

[LiberalElite]

20. THANK YOU!!! nt

[DI Freighter Watcher]

25. Thanks

Keeping a positive attitude is difficult when all you hear is defeatist propaganda!
Time to watch some silent movies and regain my positive Michigan girl attitude!
Still SANDERS!

[LovingA2andMI]

29. Of Course...

From Michigan to Michigan #StillSanders!

[Faux pas]

26. Kicketty Kickin'

and I don't believe anything the msm says!

[Peace Patriot]

28. Kick and hallelujah!

That's a Popish word--hallelujah! (Also a St. Francis word--joyful guy!) (And maybe this, speaking of St. Francis: Rural people know what's what with Nature and her critters. City people not so much. The biggest crisis we face--and it is monumental and almost overwhelming--is climate change. We need a leader--a REAL LEADER--to deal with this, and to protect the poor majority as much as possible while we try to solve it. Bernie Sanders is that leader. There is no other. Is this why rural New York voted for him, and other people in rural areas as well? A cry from the outlands to the oblivious ones in the city who don't grasp what's coming?)

[LovingA2andMI]

31. Got a Feeling

Some funny Business went on in NYC. Didn't de Biasio "Promise" Her NYC. It's appears he "Delivered". Has be been "promised" a cushy position in the supposed "Her White House"?

Why they did not count on -- Bernie Kicking Up The Bern in 50 out of 62 counties throughout New York making the "plot" to "deliver" NYC for "Her" all the more OBVIOUS!

[PFunk1]

33. Another good thing about NY is that it put Cali Sanders Supporters on notice.

Or should have because it's looking like that will be the deciding state. Now I don't know much about California politics but isn't Sanders more favorable there?

[liberalnarb]

34. Its not even close to over!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280180294

[ladyVet]

35. We knew this was going to be a fight. Bernie knew it, and he was prepared for the long haul.

The way I see it, she can only win when the cheating is so over the top you don't even have to look hard. And even then, she can barely pull it out of the fire.

I've got Bernie's back, right up to the end. I believe that will be in November, and we will win. This country will have a chance to get back on the right track, but we'll have to stay on it, keep supporting Bernie all the way.

The revolution has just begun.

[LovingA2andMI]

36. Indeed...