bernie supporters need to organize so that if bernie loses, Americans can prepare for the coming

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job shift.

Young people especially need to figure out ways to get work experience if they liberalise services because that will make it hard to get an entry level job. Some people may never be able to get a job for their entire life. But people cannot just wait around forever putting your entire life on hold.

Some people may need to emigrate elsewhere. people who want to have a family might have better luck in some other country, seriously. Most other developed countries have better health care and many have better job opportunities for the middle class. the middle class here may shrink a lot. I certainly do not see any of the candidates besides bernie as being willing to do anything other than pretend to be doing things and pass more trade deals which invariably make things worse, they are irreversible, they give corporations entitlements to bad policy, and their track record has been horrible.

But that is a little farther down the line. Short term, people need to do something constructive where they learn. With colleges becoming privatized people will need to avoid them and their debt- thats a trap.

I suggest creating groups to do projects together, even if there is no money in it, you will get valuable work experience. in Europe now people pay 'schools' to have them work on projects which have no actual meaning, but that seems pointless, it would be better to work on projects which have meaning for communities, also people should share meals and housing and maybe vehicles.

People have to learn how to live on almost nothing while at the same time, appearing to be spending money.

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1. Win or lose, this needs to be the start of a movement.

Politically, yes... But I think finding ways to create a support system is a wonderful idea.

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2. It cannot be involved with the government because its prohibited from doing anything that impacts th

e profits of corporations adversely.

Has been since 1995.

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3. Viable 3rd Party infrastructure is what's needed.

If Bernie doesn't pull out a comeback win I wish he'd take what's left of his campaign funds and begin building an Independent Party voter database and the campaign structure needed for a 3rd party to emerge. That's the primary reason he had to run as a Democrat. There's no infrastructure for Indies to use to get a nominee. Bernie could change that and may be the only one in position to do so for years to come. At least that way a true movement could be created that has a chance.

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4. Politics is a trap. i the system is rigged, better to be apolitical and plan your escape to some

better place. Otherwise you could pour an endless amount of energy into it and just get disappointment or worse, killed.

Look at all these countries.

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5. There's no way I could leave.

I have 3 young grandchildren 6yo, 2yo and 2 months old. There's no way I could leave those kids so I'm stuck trying to fix (or fight) the system we have.

And no doubt it's rigged. But you can beat a rigged system. Or at least swing the odds back to your side a bit. That's all we need to do to make a difference.

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6. Clubs- buying clubs - learning clubs- so people can get skills+ essentials without paying markups.

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Co-training, so people can get skills and use them - outside of the debt-creating-system. Then maybe go to some other country (Germany?) to test into real - universally accepted college degrees.

I say this because we're headed into an era where people will need formal accreditations more than today to get jobs. Because of globalization which requires "objective and verifiable criteria" in staffing decisions. (to prevent discrimination against developing countries with lots of degree holders in awarding contracts under government procurement rules)

Otherwise people with self-taught skills - without a formal education may often be in a really bad situation in a few years from debt.

Health care and insane drug prices, which have already risen a lot and I expect them to rise a lot more after the TPP lock in, will be the biggest cause of bankruptcies. Even drugs that cost very little before - the ways they are being priced is shifting due to ideological pricing techniques.

Maybe people could set up some kind of ferry or boat to bring people to Canada or Mexico (or even Cuba!) for medical treatment. Kind of like RAM (Remote Area Medical) does now with their multi day events. The only way many poor people can get healthcare.

Big white boats. Its become too expensive here and unless Bernie wins, it cannot get cheaper because of any government policy change. Because of rigid ideology.

Giving people health care in signatory nations will likely become a crime. As its framed as stealing customers from insurance.

Domestic Regulation such as vestigial public services are being framed as trade barriers. Foreign firms have to have a welcoming market that does not devalue their costs by giving people cheaper alternatives. There are things they cannot do in the US-created ideological framework they use and more public services are the worst thing - definitely not allowed without a real, not superficial change. Can people see how that effects current policy?

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7. what if it was literally a matter of life or death?

would you leave?

Suppose people were dying of starvation, and it was leave or starve.

Such things do happen with narcissistic 'leaders'. Thats what happens. If you cross them, they want you gone- dead, vanished- thats how they think.

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8. No, I doubt that I would leave.

I have a vested interest in staying in this country. That interest is my grandchildren. Even with a life and death situation, like starvation, I'd have to stay as long as they're still alive.