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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:54 PM Mar 2016

I will never watch Rachel Maddow again.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017346451

Her reporting is so anti-Bernie and so pro-Hillary that she is not a credibly objective reporter.

What do you think?

Bernie's recent wins are amazing. He did not choose the caucus structure in those states. But he won every one.

Hillary won in the South because of her name recognition and, dare I say it, because she has a bit of an advantage in Black churches and the culture of Black churches. If I mention why, I will be kicked off DU but having lived in the South as a teenager, I'm pretty sure I am right about her advantage due to her ease in the Black churches.
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I will never watch Rachel Maddow again. (Original Post) JDPriestly Mar 2016 OP
I haven't watched TV in 5 years! retrowire Mar 2016 #1
I don't subscribe to cable or watch TV in that sense, but I do watch JDPriestly Mar 2016 #6
After having another "conversation" with a Hillary Supporter today retrowire Mar 2016 #12
Link? nt revbones Mar 2016 #21
i won't publicly point fingers so I'll pm you nt retrowire Mar 2016 #22
Probably better. The alert division of the Hillbot police are out in full force revbones Mar 2016 #23
Ot: 0-7 Jury results for your post are fun: greyl Mar 2016 #24
And the children will lead us! artislife Mar 2016 #10
Xer as in Gen X? retrowire Mar 2016 #13
My oldest son is a Gen X'er, born in '78 Oilwellian Mar 2016 #38
Rachel who? ALittleBirdie Mar 2016 #2
She's unwatchable TheFarseer Mar 2016 #3
.+1 840high Mar 2016 #8
It's been a slow, painful descent. Started around the time Olberman was being shown the door. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #11
That was when I realized she would become a sellout DJ13 Mar 2016 #19
I remember that period. It seemed that Rachel saw the handwriting on the wall. ladjf Mar 2016 #29
This has been covered here, and rarely to a good end.. Trajan Mar 2016 #4
Welcome to the club. nt JeffHead Mar 2016 #5
Ex-Rachel fan here. grntuscarora Mar 2016 #7
And Stephanie Miller as well, Mbrow Mar 2016 #9
She thinks Alaska and Hawaii aren't diverse? lol malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Mar 2016 #17
Looky who is Stephanie's dad... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #41
The Rachel I used to love would be spending 1/2 of her show investigating what happened jillan Mar 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #16
About three months ago ... earthside Mar 2016 #30
Yep, she lost me after the BP spill Oilwellian Mar 2016 #39
She flipped her switch to all HRC SmittynMo Mar 2016 #18
She is now a bought and paid for corporatist. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #20
I wonder what's going to happen to her after the election PFunk1 Mar 2016 #25
These guys aren't even interesting anymore. delrem Mar 2016 #28
I stopped viewing anything MSNBC quite awhile ago. delrem Mar 2016 #26
Loved her on the radio. But I never could get through a TV show episode. Tried twice then gave up. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #27
I used to watch her pretty faithfully, but SheilaT Mar 2016 #31
I turned her off 3 months ago. 100% sold out. 0% for the 99%. mhatrw Mar 2016 #32
I would venture to guess about 40% of us here don't watch her any more. Left Coast2020 Mar 2016 #33
Once in a while I watch for about 5 minutes max and then Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #34
I'm With You corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #35
Think Tad Could Make His Case Billsmile Mar 2016 #36
I am so disappointed in Rachel! LongTomH Mar 2016 #37
Gosh, I gave up on her years ago. ladyVet Mar 2016 #40
Haven't watched Rachel for a long time. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #42
There are plenty of places on the web to leftcoastmountains Mar 2016 #43
Forget about tonight then cause she's crawling out of her skin over her HRC interview. nc4bo Mar 2016 #44

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
1. I haven't watched TV in 5 years!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:56 PM
Mar 2016

And I'm a millennial! I should be watching all the shows and doing all the social media! But I don't! Join me!

IT'S AWESOME!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. I don't subscribe to cable or watch TV in that sense, but I do watch
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:06 PM
Mar 2016

Rachel Maddow videos when posted on DU. Never again!

She seemed really upset that Bernie is gaining delegates and winning races.
People who vote in caucuses are motivated enough to go to the caucus.

People who vote in primary elections are not as well informed as those who vote in caucuses.

I have to say -- and it is quite noticeable and verifiable on DU -- that Bernie's voters are in general better informed and more articulate than Hillary's.

We Bernie voters know precisely why we are choosing Bernie and not Hillary.

The Hillary voters don't seem to know really why they prefer their candidate. It's just kind of a vague thing for them from what I can tell. That is what has impressed me so much as I have campaigned for Bernie too.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
12. After having another "conversation" with a Hillary Supporter today
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

I'm beginning to form a more solid understanding of why some support her. And they aren't naive.

To put it shortly, not everyone on DU is supportive of other religions.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
23. Probably better. The alert division of the Hillbot police are out in full force
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

and I'm sure they'd say linking to a post by a crazed supporter is somehow supporting Trump or something.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
24. Ot: 0-7 Jury results for your post are fun:
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Condescending dog whisltes

.. the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 : Pointless alert. There's nothing wrong with the post. Leave it.

Juror #2 : this post is inarticulate, regurgitated nonsense, and in no way are Bernie supporters more intelligent. but this isn't hide-worthy. no TOS violation I can see. Leave it.

Juror #3 : A pro-Sanders and pro-Sanders-supporters message posted in the Sanders group? How is this a condescending dog whistle?

Juror #4 : I don't think you know what the alert system is for.

Juror #5 : No explanation given

Juror #6 : this alert is ridiculous.

Juror #7 : Easy leave of a weakly supported alert.
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
10. And the children will lead us!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:15 PM
Mar 2016

I love you, man!

I also don't have a TV...probably longer than 5 years. When I pet sit at a house, I catch up on Suits, Game of Thrones and my fave...Orphan Black.


I don't watch their news...nope..

Xer.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
13. Xer as in Gen X?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:23 PM
Mar 2016

I'm close to Gen X but I don't qualify! Fuck me!

But having the older siblings as you grow up certainly gives you a good dose of the 90's throughout the developmental years. I say it all the time, Gen X and Y are the most cynical and curious generations of modern time. They have seen a US government lie and cheat and have questioned it the whole time. We're not stupid and we're not afraid to bite the hand that feeds us if we know we're getting fed shit.

I LOVE YOU TOO

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
38. My oldest son is a Gen X'er, born in '78
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

That makes him one of that generation's youngest members. You described him perfectly, cynical and curious. I might add, he had the internet at his fingertips in his mid-teens and his room was always full of various computer parts that he liked to tinker with. He learned it from the inside-out and much to our lack of surprise, is an IT guy today. LOL

As much as I've loved seeing the millennials recognized and appreciated for their political acumen and liberal philosophies, I've also quietly given the Gen X'ers their dues as well. They played a key role in educating not only the Millennials, but The Boomers as well, and they helped us join the internet community much sooner than we probably would have on our own. At least that's the case for me and several Boomers I know.

The internet has brought us knowledge, and that's a mighty powerful force that can't be controlled. They will try, but as my son described it, "it'll be like playing Wack-A-Mole."

I am so in awe of both generations and I look forward to living out my years and watching you all come into power. The Gen X'ers are there now.

ALittleBirdie

(91 posts)
2. Rachel who?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

TV? What's TV? My grandmother used to talk about families sitting around a box with sounds and images. Is that what it is?

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
3. She's unwatchable
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:03 PM
Mar 2016

I used to like her but she's just doing the bidding of her master's now. It's sad to see really.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. It's been a slow, painful descent. Started around the time Olberman was being shown the door. (nt)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:18 PM
Mar 2016

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
19. That was when I realized she would become a sellout
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

It was obvious she was being extra cautious in what she said back then, to the point her opinions were next to worthless.

She's obviously covering her butt by saying whats expected of her, but that makes her opinions worthless.

Its sad, but this illustrates why the networks are willing to overpay the on air talent, it makes them pliable and easy to manipulate because the talent knows they've got it good, and finding another job like this is next to impossible if you dont kiss ass as required.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
29. I remember that period. It seemed that Rachel saw the handwriting on the wall.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:12 AM
Mar 2016

Keith got "canned". It's understandable that she would change. But, maybe she never was a liberal as she first seemed to be. Money, money, money.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
4. This has been covered here, and rarely to a good end..
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

Rachel has been atrociously one sided ... I don't watch but I have caught some recent clips ... I sure am glad I don't watch national news media ... Pure Suckage ...

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
7. Ex-Rachel fan here.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:08 PM
Mar 2016

She always welcomed Bernie and seemed supportive of his positions in years past. Time, and corporate takeovers, have clearly changed things.

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Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
9. And Stephanie Miller as well,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:15 PM
Mar 2016

She has bought into the HRC thing as well. She was spouting about how "white" Alaska and Hawaii was.

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
14. She thinks Alaska and Hawaii aren't diverse? lol
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

I guess whatever it takes to keep her talking points alive.

Response to Mbrow (Reply #9)

jillan

(39,451 posts)
15. The Rachel I used to love would be spending 1/2 of her show investigating what happened
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:31 PM
Mar 2016

in Arizona.

I had to stop watching her completely.

Response to jillan (Reply #15)

earthside

(6,960 posts)
30. About three months ago ...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:16 AM
Mar 2016

... I just stopped watching MSNBC.

It was either all Trump all the time or a smug assumption that Mrs. Clinton was inevitable ... so why was anyone bothering in the Democratic Party.

With the internet it ought not be surprising that one can do very well and be greatly informed without MSNBC.
So, who needs 'em?

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
39. Yep, she lost me after the BP spill
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

Went to New Orleans and did some fabulous reporting and then...nothing.

Now I can't stand the sight of her, much less listen to her.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
18. She flipped her switch to all HRC
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

about 2 weeks ago. She was tolerable til then. Now it's sickening to watch. A true oligarch signature is all over this one. The whole damn channel (network).

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
20. She is now a bought and paid for corporatist.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:48 PM
Mar 2016

Don't know if it was her bosses that got her or the clintons -- but she caved. I stopped watching all of MSNBC except sometimes Lawrence. Also unfriended all of them on FB.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
25. I wonder what's going to happen to her after the election
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:18 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe she'll be the next one dropped by MSNBC since much of her older audience has/is in the process of abandoning her ratings-wise.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
28. These guys aren't even interesting anymore.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016

I was interested in what Rachel said in the Air America days, but then, that was easy, she was anti-Bush.
That made it super easy.

But now, most of the actual issues over which she was anti-Bush are verboten, taboo. Subject only to pro-Clinton spin. So there can't even possibly be any depth.
And that's a mean turnaround, not one many of her Air America listeners will "evolve" with -- not being paid Rachel's big bucks to grease their wheels.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
26. I stopped viewing anything MSNBC quite awhile ago.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

I watched a couple minutes of it.

I hear that Maddow, Hayes, O'Donnell, Matthews, Scarborough, are well paid.
Good for them.
But I think they're as bought out as Clinton.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
27. Loved her on the radio. But I never could get through a TV show episode. Tried twice then gave up.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:08 AM
Mar 2016

She is unwatchable. Her TV show had a certain stink to it from the get-go. Unwatchable.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
31. I used to watch her pretty faithfully, but
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:31 AM
Mar 2016

starting cutting back when she'd be beating various dead horses. I can't recall specifics, but felt she was just going off on completely uninteresting tangents. It's probably been nearly six months since I've watched more than one or two segments of her show.

I likewise don't have TV, but much can be watched on the internet, including Rachel's show for those who care.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
33. I would venture to guess about 40% of us here don't watch her any more.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:13 AM
Mar 2016

That may be a conservative estimate. And I'm including the videos posted here.

I should do some research, out of curiosity, how low her and MSNBC ratings have dropped in the past year~if no one else has done so.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
34. Once in a while I watch for about 5 minutes max and then
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:04 AM
Mar 2016

change the channel. She has gotten worse and worse, what with the over explanations and repeating herself ad nauseum. Chris Matthews, the "Mandibular Masturbator", and jumping jack, Chris Hayes. I have dropped them on fb. The whole bunch stinks.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
35. I'm With You
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:19 AM
Mar 2016

And it's a crying shame because I used to LOVE her show, always starting my weekend with the 6AM ET Saturday re-airing of Friday's show. I have purged her from my DVR. I only will watch again once Sanders has clinched the nomination, at which point she will have no choice but to stop discussion Clinton.

Billsmile

(404 posts)
36. Think Tad Could Make His Case
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

The Sanders campaign "did not compete" on the same level as the Clinton campaign in a number of states.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-outspends-sanders-super-tuesday-states-n524266

Maddow did a piece about a month ago pointing out that Sanders' "political revolution" was a no-show because voter turnout wasn't anywhere near 2008 levels (in many of those "did not compete" states BTW). Has she corrected this report due the the large volumes seen in more recent primary events?

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
37. I am so disappointed in Rachel!
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

I was one of the people who lined up outside the Uptown Theater in Kansas City when she came to town as part of her tour for Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
40. Gosh, I gave up on her years ago.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

Where y'all been?

I tried to watch her, but she'd go into these long, rambling, repetitive tirades and I'd be shouting at her to cut to the chase. The Republicans would have like a five word soundbite that was easy to remember, catchy and could fit on a bumper sticker, and the Dems would have a 500 word essay that only a professor of philosophy could parse. It's no fucking wonder people tuned them out.

Tweety was a spitting, drooling flip flopper, Ed, well, I never quite got what Ed's schtick was. Keith started being a rant-o-matic, and Stephanie couldn't stop blaming all the ills of whatever political hot button she was pushing on the rural and poor. And laughing about it. Fuck her.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
43. There are plenty of places on the web to
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:06 PM
Mar 2016

watch msm live stream. But I stopped for the same reason everybody
here has stopped. My biggest disappointment was Rachel. I used to really
like her.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
44. Forget about tonight then cause she's crawling out of her skin over her HRC interview.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:08 PM
Mar 2016

And how she rushed into the hallway after the interview to get Hill's comment on Trump's abortion comments.

Eta: Maddow brought up Sanders' comment about it then asked Hill what she though of Sanders' statement. Of course with Rachel holding open the door, Clinton walked through with her opinion.

She's feeling so very pleased with herself, me thinks.


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