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retrowire

(10,345 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:01 PM Mar 2016

Listen up Bernie Supporters, get a grip!

Ugh, I can't believe I'm saying this to the most optimistic and enthusiastic group of supporters that any campaign has ever seen but...

YOU'VE GOT TO CALM DOWN AND COME BACK TO REALITY. I LOVE YOU, but please, sit down for a moment and stop with the pessimism, it's contagious and it's hurtful to our campaign.

Remember what we've been saying for WEEKS? This is Hillary's LAST GOOD DAY.

But then we won Michigan, and honestly, I think we let it get to our heads. We got overconfident and we invested a lot of emotion into tonight.

Originally, Bernie was not supposed to do well this day anyways.

It is AFTER THIS DAY, that Bernie is going to excel. We've known this, we have the data to prove it. All we had for tonight was the positive high of pulling off Michigan's upset.

So for the love of Bernie, PULL IT TOGETHER. This was expected for weeks. Don't let Michigan's win distort your reality.

We're still climbing and she's still falling. That reality hasn't changed. Stay the course.

Now snap out of it. We're fine.

ETA: And you know what? We were optimistic about winning EVEN WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO LOSE MICHIGAN AND TODAY. So why the fuck is anyone upset that we ACTUALLY won Michigan and might not lose everything today? GAH.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/03/clinton-will-build-her-biggest-lead-on.html#.dpuf

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Listen up Bernie Supporters, get a grip! (Original Post) retrowire Mar 2016 OP
Absolutely true. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #1
Umm, could you change this thread title? AmBlue Mar 2016 #2
I will apologize about the harshness of the title. retrowire Mar 2016 #11
retro is right. Time for cold water splash nt JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #17
Cold water is good. 840high Mar 2016 #67
thread title okay, but not displaying correctly when shared on Facebook Nate Roberts Mar 2016 #90
"you're losing it" was the original title retrowire Mar 2016 #92
... and now it's displaying correctly on Facebook Nate Roberts Mar 2016 #95
Thanks, retrowire... AmBlue Mar 2016 #128
Yup noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #3
That popped right into my head too noamnety Mar 2016 #44
How about a B52? passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #58
In the spirit of Socialism, I'm doing Moscow Mules. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #81
Do you use the middle finger? TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #89
This needs to be repeated MARCH 15TH IS THEIR END AND OUR BEGINNING!!!! NT LiberalElite Mar 2016 #117
Title is right on. narnian60 Mar 2016 #4
Thanks retro! StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #5
Getting ready to send him another donation now njlib Mar 2016 #6
Just did it! A nice $fat one! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #84
Spot on. nt JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #7
i do think michigan messed with our heads restorefreedom Mar 2016 #8
Please change the post title!! Hissyspit Mar 2016 #9
I'm sorry for the title. retrowire Mar 2016 #16
It makes it sound like Sanders is losing. Hissyspit Mar 2016 #19
AHHH retrowire Mar 2016 #21
Thank you. Hissyspit Mar 2016 #26
There is one poster here who is doom and gloom all the time. Please! We knew this was the hump. thereismore Mar 2016 #10
Exactly Rebkeh Mar 2016 #12
I'm maintaining my zen Scootaloo Mar 2016 #13
Is it true winter is coming Mar 2016 #45
I'm so Zen I could throw a motorcycle right now. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #48
Hahahaha. narnian60 Mar 2016 #59
Thank you Retro choie Mar 2016 #14
No problem. retrowire Mar 2016 #30
I don't think of Occupy as "shut down" noamnety Mar 2016 #61
If there is gloating from Hillary supporters, I wouldn't know. Don't ya just love the ignore SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #51
You know, for some reason choie Mar 2016 #60
I need to do that. noamnety Mar 2016 #64
My Ignore list has LITERALLY quintupled... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #119
Hear! Hear! Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #15
Yep, and let's not give them an inch. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #36
Thanks for the thread. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #49
Thank you, retrowire. I needed that! PWPippin Mar 2016 #18
No problem! retrowire Mar 2016 #35
Can you point me to the research that you are talking about the rest of the way looking positive davidpdx Mar 2016 #20
Here's something to digest. retrowire Mar 2016 #31
A diary from dailykos. This is an update version of something from last month: winter is coming Mar 2016 #50
I liked this chart from the comments thread nxylas Mar 2016 #116
All I keep hearing on MSM is the math is not there for Bernie UGGG bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #22
And the M$M never lies or misleads, amirite? kath Mar 2016 #27
And we have to keep shouting this! eom passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #71
I'm with you retrowire, erlewyne Mar 2016 #23
Nope we're not letting him down. No way. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #34
He's gained almost 100 delegates in the 3 states he's lost PatrynXX Mar 2016 #24
Another perspective worth acknowledging. Thank you. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #33
Thank you! To reinforce retro's points, all of yinz need to re-read this article: kath Mar 2016 #25
Yes...read this! passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #74
happy to be of soivice! kath Mar 2016 #80
Stay strong... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #28
What needs to happen is a real attack on the political machine states that are left. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #29
Right on! TrueDemVA Mar 2016 #32
Still feeling the Bern! dchill Mar 2016 #37
Much needed reminder and refocus ~ Thanks SO MUCH for adding the proper perspective! liberalla Mar 2016 #38
;) nt retrowire Mar 2016 #47
Get it out of our systems, this storm will pass Babel_17 Mar 2016 #39
As a pretty good catcher once said, StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #40
One of my favs. 840high Mar 2016 #68
Let's all keep the faith! Proudpiscean Mar 2016 #41
Abso - freakin - lutely farleftlib Mar 2016 #42
Bye new HRC supporters. No thanx Peregrine Took Mar 2016 #43
Thank you! Go Bernie! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #46
Never surrender, never defeat RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #52
Donations noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #53
FWIW, he just took the lead in Missouri democrattotheend Mar 2016 #54
This is a marathon that ends on July 28, 2016 ALittleBirdie Mar 2016 #55
Is the last primary that late? democrattotheend Mar 2016 #97
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #126
At this moment, Bernie is speaking in AZ to a roaring crowd. What are some of us doing?? thereismore Mar 2016 #56
After March 16th the tide turns... mother earth Mar 2016 #57
"get a grip!" AND GET YOUR CREDIT CARD OUT ... Impedimentus Mar 2016 #62
Will do but through jpr. jwirr Mar 2016 #87
The races they've called for Hillary Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #63
Made My Donation noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #65
thanks...I also needed that and I know you are correct xiamiam Mar 2016 #66
Sadly this is true. ALittleBirdie Mar 2016 #75
((hugs)) nt retrowire Mar 2016 #78
If we give up now, the conservatives win. Maedhros Mar 2016 #69
Bluto's Big Speech - Animal House Babel_17 Mar 2016 #70
Thank you. I for one am having a flashback to a night in 72. jwirr Mar 2016 #72
Advice for my fellow Sandernistas Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #73
Thank you. nt dflprincess Mar 2016 #76
you're welcome! :) nt retrowire Mar 2016 #77
I don't hear no fat lady singing! werknotgoin2takeit Mar 2016 #79
That is because I can't carry a note... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #82
:) you're welcome retrowire Mar 2016 #83
H-A-L-L-E-L-U-J-A!!! Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2016 #94
No Worries - we still have CA 500+ delegates to go KauaiK Mar 2016 #85
I am a grip Bangbangdem Mar 2016 #86
Great post. You keep on. Barack_America Mar 2016 #88
Thanks for this thread, retrowire! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #91
Thank you, retro... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #93
Deep breaths. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #96
yea, but he has to CLEAN UP, +10 points or more to catch up. johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #98
A grip on the future ! electronlove Mar 2016 #99
yep. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #100
Can't wait to vote for Bernie in CALIFORNIA! Little_Wing Mar 2016 #101
You're welcome! And thank you! nt retrowire Mar 2016 #105
I just got home from my county assembly mountain grammy Mar 2016 #102
The greater good hbhall Mar 2016 #103
Thanks for that little boost. Paka Mar 2016 #104
You're welcome. retrowire Mar 2016 #106
when the going gets tough, the tough get going. we are so GOING. Bern. Baby. Bern. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #107
Hillary had a good night FreedomRain Mar 2016 #108
Hillary isnt our mission here retrowire Mar 2016 #109
She had a night where she wasn't totally embarrassed, like Michigan. Illinois was not a FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #121
If Bernie wins CA, NJ and NY by 86-14 cosmicone Mar 2016 #110
why would you, a hillary supporter be happy about that? retrowire Mar 2016 #111
Why are you trolling a protected group! Kittycat Mar 2016 #112
That's a particularly nasty one - hoping it gets another one of its multiple vacations soon. kath Mar 2016 #115
K&R Excellent post! Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #113
THANK YOU SLAP SLAP ON MY FACE... Rockyj Mar 2016 #114
I'm getting this grip alright. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #118
Hillary only added 57 delegates to her lead, and States better for Bernie are coming up!!! FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #120
We need to keep working: Phone bank, canvass, donate LongTomH Mar 2016 #122
Hold the phone there, Jackson... MynameisBlarney Mar 2016 #123
Ignore Clintonites billhicks76 Mar 2016 #124
Don't stop, keep up the pressure...... Clifton Mar 2016 #125
Bernie or Bust - TBF Mar 2016 #127
I'm so proud of you retrowire. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #129
thanks so much retrowire Mar 2016 #130

AmBlue

(3,144 posts)
2. Umm, could you change this thread title?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

A bit on the negative side for something intended to spread cheer. Just sayin'...

Otherwise, I agree.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
11. I will apologize about the harshness of the title.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:08 PM
Mar 2016

But I can't remove it. It does sting a little, but I meant it to be similar to me slapping a friend in the face so they can calm down. I truly do have love for my fellow supporters, but we need a splash of cold water right now. I won't let us crumble.

Nate Roberts

(3 posts)
90. thread title okay, but not displaying correctly when shared on Facebook
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:47 PM
Mar 2016

When I tried to share on Facebook the preview says "Listen up Bernie Supporters, you're losing" instead of "get a grip."

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
92. "you're losing it" was the original title
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

it was too harsh because it could be taken as "you're losing" so I changed it.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
44. That popped right into my head too
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

when I read the OP.

I figure I have two choices.

A) Give up.

B) Make some DIY baileys, enjoy a drink, and carry on.

and much as I'd like to do option A, the gods put condensed milk on sale here ($1 a can) so I just stocked up today, and it's like the universe has decreed I pick option B.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
58. How about a B52?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:44 PM
Mar 2016

I wish I had the ingredients.

But guys, consider this. YOu are not supposed to worry about day to day changes on a 401K...You sign up for a 401K for the long haul and don't let interim lows depress you. It always comes back up.

So here we are doing the same thing with Benrie's campaign...intstead of going for the long haul (knowing the longer we stay in the more votes he gets in western and northern states)...no we panic every time there is a loss.

WELL...STOP IT.

Keep the faith. He has faith in us and we need to have faith in him.

He's not a quitter. Never has been. I've never known a fighter like him. And we have to be fighters too.

So go pin your Bernie button on your shirt, put a smile on your face, and go out and greet a few new people and convince them that the Bern is in their favor.

GOTV. Don't ever give up!

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
81. In the spirit of Socialism, I'm doing Moscow Mules.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

Stoli (heavy pour)
squeeze a half lime
Top off with finger beer.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,291 posts)
89. Do you use the middle finger?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

I love ginger beer though, but I can't imagine adding vodka. They often have specialty sodas at TJMaxx and Homegoods for $3.99 for a 4 pack. They have ginger beer, sarsparilla, Brownie soda, etc.

njlib

(891 posts)
6. Getting ready to send him another donation now
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:06 PM
Mar 2016

Got my t-shirt , still waiting for my buttons, and am planning to phone bank for him on Monday!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
8. i do think michigan messed with our heads
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:07 PM
Mar 2016

and the calendar looks good going forward.
if he can continue to raise money, we will be in good shape for quite a while

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
16. I'm sorry for the title.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:12 PM
Mar 2016

I mean well, but the title is representative to the splash of cold water that we need. I don't want to change it. I truly do love my fellow supporters and I write harshly at first just to shake everyone out of it.

choie

(4,120 posts)
14. Thank you Retro
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:12 PM
Mar 2016

I'm feeling pretty sick to my stomach about this and it's hard to read the gloating from the Clinton supporters on this board. That being said, your pep talk helped a great deal. It's just depressing to see that these ignorant Americans vote against everybody's - or should I say the average citizens' - best interests.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
30. No problem.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:20 PM
Mar 2016

This is my first election and I'm learning fast the realities of how easily guided people are to vote against their best interests. I'm seeing how intentionally difficult the system makes it for people to become informed.

Politics isn't inviting enough. It's become so exclusive that it leads to people not informing themselves enough or not wanting to be involved at all.

Ignore their gloating. They'll relish in the moment, but they won't win. And even if Bernie loses.... I'm still here, and I still have the same drive and inspiration he gave me. And I'M not going away. YOU aren't going away.

We are all apart of a movement that has been started by Bernie. And whether or not it ends with Bernie, doesn't matter. It's still going to keep moving. We won't be shutting down like Occupy did. We won't be ignored any longer. We've looked into the system and have seen how deliberately it opposes us. We've seen the tricks it pulls and it doesn't even try to hide that.

We're not going anywhere.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
61. I don't think of Occupy as "shut down"
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:46 PM
Mar 2016

so much as regrouped. The younger folks are overwhelmingly for Bernie - anti-wallstreet, which tells me they are still working to depose Wall Street, just in different ways.

I'm thinking it's always the youth that are more liberal - and I don't mean that as they age they get more conservative, though that may happen a little. I mean instead that each new generation gets ideas in their head that are more to the left than their elders had at that same age. So for example we have young people in higher numbers than retirees viewing gay marriage as a norm - and pushing older people to embrace it.

I think Occupy got a whole generation talking and thinking about corporate control of our resources in a way I never seriously did when I was that same age.

What I'm getting at is long term, I'd rather have the millennials carrying us than be with the group that's supported mainly by the 50+ year olds. This isn't ageism, I'm in my 50's - it's just that win or lose this battle, I'm optimistic that our odds of getting a president who represents real people are going up, not down.

choie

(4,120 posts)
60. You know, for some reason
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:45 PM
Mar 2016

I have never put anybody on "ignore" not sure why...but there sure are a number of Clinton supporters here who make me nauseous.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
64. I need to do that.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:49 PM
Mar 2016

I surfed around a bit and saw some discussions on how to best pander to us tonight.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
119. My Ignore list has LITERALLY quintupled...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

...in the relatively short time since I un-Trashed GD: P. The vast majority of new additions are gloating, condescending Hillary acolytes.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
15. Hear! Hear!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:12 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary and her supporters will try desperately to cash in on any negativity.

It's only over if we decide it's over.

Personally I'm not ready to concede the White House to the Republicans just yet.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
49. Thanks for the thread.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:30 PM
Mar 2016

Even I needed to 'hear' it. Michigan got my hopes up for an earlier rebound, but you're right, it's not over and if the remaining voters that have yet to cast their ballots hear there's no point, they won't go out and vote.

I look forward to hearing from Bernie tonight. I'm sure it will be a good pep talk.

Thanks Retrowire. You're passionate and exactly what Sanders and his supporters need. You should be on the payroll.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
35. No problem!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:23 PM
Mar 2016

It's time to get back to the original plan. We just got caught up in Michigan, that's all.

Have faith friend!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. Can you point me to the research that you are talking about the rest of the way looking positive
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:14 PM
Mar 2016

for Sanders? I certainly thought today was going to be the turning point. There is a good chance he won't win one state today.

The big states coming up are NY, PA, and CA. Again NY and PA are one of Clinton's many home states (sarcasm implied).

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
23. I'm with you retrowire,
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:16 PM
Mar 2016

Don't think I would let Bernie down do you?

This is real. Bernie is going to win.



PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
24. He's gained almost 100 delegates in the 3 states he's lost
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:17 PM
Mar 2016

hence she's not knocking him down enough you don't win that way..


28 OH

24 NC

50 FL



via current count on NYT

actually I think thats over 100 delegates O_O her last major hurray and he cain 100 delegates? nevermind most of America hasn't voted yet.

kath

(10,565 posts)
25. Thank you! To reinforce retro's points, all of yinz need to re-read this article:
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:18 PM
Mar 2016

"Clinton Will Build Her Biggest Lead on March 15. Sanders Will Erode It After That"
- See more at: http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/03/clinton-will-build-her-biggest-lead-on.html#.dpuf

And keep in mind that this written BEFORE the big win in Michigan!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
74. Yes...read this!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:08 PM
Mar 2016
What this means is simple:

Hillary Clinton will grow her lead until the March 15 states have voted.

Bernie Sanders will erase that lead — partly or completely — after March 15.

How much of Clinton's lead he will erase depends on your not buying what the media
is selling — that the contest is over.


In most scenarios where Sanders wins, he doesn't retake the lead until June 7, when five
states including California cast their ballots.


http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/03/clinton-will-build-her-biggest-lead-on.html#.dpuf

Thank You Kath!

LiberalArkie

(15,751 posts)
29. What needs to happen is a real attack on the political machine states that are left.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

They short precincts that will go for Bernie. Get more people to early vote to avoid it. We had counted on anti Rahm vote around Chicago, either the machine was the reason or their was no anti-rahm vote. Too many things have been taken advantage of like the idea that it would be a fair election.

TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
32. Right on!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:22 PM
Mar 2016

Keep fighting for the right reasons. This is a marathon. If anything, this is a necessary fight to save the future. Let the establishment hear us. Let them grow scared. Stick together and fight for more than just primaries. We are fighting for the right things. If we quit, they win. I'm not going out like that.

liberalla

(9,305 posts)
38. Much needed reminder and refocus ~ Thanks SO MUCH for adding the proper perspective!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:24 PM
Mar 2016

Yes, I remember Mar. 15 was 'hump' day and things are much better after today.
Hanging in there!

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
39. Get it out of our systems, this storm will pass
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:25 PM
Mar 2016

There's an overwhelming wave of progressive support in the states ahead. It's going to be a beautiful thing.

Ha, we're like Richard Gere's character in An Officer and a Gentleman. Louis Gossett Jr. as the D.I. is asking why we're sticking around.



Foley: Mayo, I want you D.O.R.

Mayo: No sir. You can kick me outta here, but I ain't quitting.

Foley: Get into your fatigues, Mayo. By the end of this weekend, you'll quit.




Foley: You can forget it! You're out!

Mayo: Don't you do it! Don't! You... I got nowhere else to go! I got nowhere else to g... I got nothin' else.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084434/trivia?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu
 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
42. Abso - freakin - lutely
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:25 PM
Mar 2016

You said it, retrowire. I just donated to Bernie's campaign and I'm in it until Philadelphia!!!

Let's go get 'em. There's plenty of Bern left to go round.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
52. Never surrender, never defeat
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:35 PM
Mar 2016

When you get worked up over these things, you can never win.
Move on, and move strong. Bernie can still win this. We just have to work harder!

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
53. Donations
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

I think we all need to make a donation to the campaign tonight so that our money bomb will also be part of the election conversation.

Response to democrattotheend (Reply #97)

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
56. At this moment, Bernie is speaking in AZ to a roaring crowd. What are some of us doing??
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:41 PM
Mar 2016

We go on. We expected this. MI was great but it did not translate to OH and IL. Bernie is going on, and so am I.
 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
63. The races they've called for Hillary
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:48 PM
Mar 2016

are tightening up, not as big a loss. Bernie has pulled ahead in Missouri and closing the gap in Illinois.

It's not over yet!!!!!!

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
65. Made My Donation
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:51 PM
Mar 2016

Just bought more Bernie gear and made another donation! Feeling the Bern!

I bought a long sleeve T shirt tonight so I would have it for NOVEMBER! I may have to go back and buy the hoodie!

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
66. thanks...I also needed that and I know you are correct
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:53 PM
Mar 2016

I don't log in very often..only on one computer and there is a reason, which is I can't be tempted to spend time arguing with a total stranger on du, or saying something snarky..or just fucking nailing whomever posts stupid stuff. I came for a hug. I so believe in bernie and his message. I've waited 40+ years to vote for someone like him even though I've never missed an election. I still believe he will win this. just hate that Ohio got called with less than 15% in. I hate that Americans vote with no friggin clue about their own interests. My next door neighbor didn't even know anything about Sanders at all..nothing, zip, nada..and then she told me she was going to vote for Clinton. She couldn't pass a history pop quiz but she gets to vote. She knows nothing about Hillary either, other than her name and that she is a woman. Thats what we've become, uneducated, ill informed, distracted and voters who vote because of name recognition.. Sorry for the rant, but I logged in to get it off my chest.

Thanks for the pep talk. I appreciate and I know you are right. While I'm at it, I'd like to thank all of the Bernie supporters for keeping the site readable and palatable. You are doing a helluva job.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
69. If we give up now, the conservatives win.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:58 PM
Mar 2016

Give them no easy wins - make them claw and scrape for every delegate. We're building a movement to try and pry the Party away from the doublethinkers that have it in their grip.

We need to make running on a corporate-friendly platform as expensive and exhausting as possible, and demonstrate that a campaign based upon integrity, people, and progressive policy has teeth.

Fight on! Concede nothing!

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
70. Bluto's Big Speech - Animal House
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:58 PM
Mar 2016




P.S. Stephen Furst, who played Flounder, went on to get a big role in Babylon 5, a JMS production. As I've posted before, JMS is supportive of Senator Sanders. https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/674833837185040385

But I'm reminded of the inspiring tale he had to tell, of a stranger who reached out to him to save his life.

Furst publicly credits J. Michael Straczynski's show "Babylon-5" with saving his life, because he is a longtime diabetic whose kidneys failed midway through the show. A fan who loved his portrayal of 'Vir' heard of his health problems and donated a kidney to save him from dialysis and a likely early demise.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0299122/bio

Like Bluto, I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but I'm willing to say I'm not giving up on the Sanders campaign. We didn't give up "when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor", and as Stephen Furst's story shows, we live in a world with amazing people who will step to a noble purpose.

"... Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope. The death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation ..."

http://scv.bu.edu/~aarondf/b5quotes.html



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
72. Thank you. I for one am having a flashback to a night in 72.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

But I am with you - we cannot stop the fight. Because Bernie has not stopped fighting for 40+ years. So friends ignore what I have written prior to this and lets continue.

Anyone got data on IL and MO?

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
73. Advice for my fellow Sandernistas
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

If you feel the temptation to write something you will regret tonight, take the rest of the night off.

It will make for a healthier, happier progressive movement going forward.

We're going to need every one of you and I love you all.

werknotgoin2takeit

(172 posts)
79. I don't hear no fat lady singing!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:18 PM
Mar 2016

I don't caucus until the 26th. Lord knows I'm not ready to throw in towel. Thank you Retrowire for the pep talk. Out of the mouths of babes. It's harder for us older folk who have lived through so many more of these disappointments to see the light. We need you youngin's to kick some sense into us. But the Bern is still in my soul, can I get a Hallelujah!!!

KauaiK

(544 posts)
85. No Worries - we still have CA 500+ delegates to go
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:35 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie is not that far behind in delegates. A California win would put him on equal footing SO LONG as there is a level playing field.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
88. Great post. You keep on.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:39 PM
Mar 2016

I am 100% with you in spirit, but I really am way too busy to be posting as much here. I'm letting people IRL down. No good.

I may pop in from time to time and give y'all a K&R though!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
91. Thanks for this thread, retrowire!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:53 PM
Mar 2016

What a delight! I had to take a despair break. Had some food. Donated to Bernie. Now I'm ready for the booster rocket part of this ride!

electronlove

(9 posts)
99. A grip on the future !
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:17 PM
Mar 2016

Hey. On a positive, there are still >80,000 votes not reported for Illinois. Right ! Many of those should go to Sanders so it could be a photo-finish !

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
101. Can't wait to vote for Bernie in CALIFORNIA!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:20 PM
Mar 2016

They will have to pry my ballot out of my cold, dead hands! LOL

Thank you Retrowire!

mountain grammy

(26,718 posts)
102. I just got home from my county assembly
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie delegates from the caucuses outnumbered Hillary supporters 2 to 1. Colorado went big for Bernie. I'm in it to win it!

hbhall

(14 posts)
103. The greater good
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

This is my first and maybe only post, although I've been reading this site for years. Listen, look at the big picture. If you think that the money people and the movers and shakers are not concerned about what they've seen Bernie accomplish, you are greatly deceived. We are out here and in significant numbers and we will remain out here. The planet is in trouble, our system is in trouble, and we want to do it with a vote and not a gun. Cheer up. We are firing a shot across the bow of the corporatist's ship. We may not see the results in our lifetime but the groundwork is being laid for your kids and their kids. Look at the Bull Moose party! Despite dividing the GOP and allowing Wilson to win, every tenet of the Bull Moose party became law within 25 years; women's right to vote, abolishment of child labor, labors right to organize, and establishment of a social security system. I'm 63. I don't think I'll live to see the changes we need, but you can't give up on the hope of wanting it, wishing for it. And lets hope we get a chance to do it at the ballot box, as opposed to an environmental disaster that will force it. Cheers everybody. I want Bernie. But I'll vote for Hillary and she will destroy the Donald.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
104. Thanks for that little boost.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016

At 75 years of age this is my last chance to vote for someone the likes of Bernie. An opportunity like this only comes along once in a lifetime, so I damned well have to remain optimistic. We have to keep fighting.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
121. She had a night where she wasn't totally embarrassed, like Michigan. Illinois was not a
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

good win for her, her birth state, where the Mayor is a friend and was Obama's chief of Staff and she was way ahead only a few weeks earlier.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
111. why would you, a hillary supporter be happy about that?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:11 AM
Mar 2016

oh yeah... you wouldn't...

so, go enjoy your victory tonight please.

there are more states than that just so you know.... remember how Obama won? Hillary won California and new York then... still lost.

battles not over. just enjoy your night for now.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
112. Why are you trolling a protected group!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:24 AM
Mar 2016

Are you that desperate for attention? I can assure you, this isn't winning.

Rockyj

(538 posts)
114. THANK YOU SLAP SLAP ON MY FACE...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:55 AM
Mar 2016

I needed that! Its just that I know in my heart I could NEVER MORALLY support & ANY Clinton!

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
120. Hillary only added 57 delegates to her lead, and States better for Bernie are coming up!!!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016
Keep that in mind, it was no big win for the Candidate that was supposed to march to a "coronation" who was supposed to be so far ahead in Illinois. Keep the message going, and shame the media for their virtual blackout of Bernie.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
122. We need to keep working: Phone bank, canvass, donate
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

If your state has an active campaign - canvass door to door.

If your state has already voted, you can still make phone calls for Bernie - Enter: MAKE PHONE CALLS CALLS FOR BERNIE into your Google window. There are various options and dialers available.

Bernie CAN WIN, if we work hard enough.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
124. Ignore Clintonites
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

Their candidate just got caught hugging Bush again and giggling while doing it. I guess hundreds of thousands of deaths haven't affected either one in their ivory towers.

Clifton

(11 posts)
125. Don't stop, keep up the pressure......
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

I 100% agree with this, it was already stated that this would more than likely be the case.
Everything now depends on what Bernie's supporters do.
Don't accept the fact that's over - because it isn't, you never know what will happen in this race.
You must follow your head and your heart, don't settle for less.
You must vote your conscious.
My generation got us out of Vietnam because we didn't give in to the establishment.
I'm 70 years old and have lived through watching the Clintons rise to where they are today.
I was advised by a friend when HRC ran against Obama to read, read, read about the Clintons - I did and as a result I can never ever vote in good conscious for her.
Keep faith in your own judgment.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
129. I'm so proud of you retrowire.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

I remember, not too long ago, lifting you from a disappointment.

You and yours are in charge of the future. Keep on keeping on.

Go Bernie.

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