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Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:08 AM Feb 2016

Is it just me, or the more their campaign goes south, the more smug, snarky, arrogant

and dismissive HRC supporters have become? They don't seem to be doing much to win in roads into Bernie supporters. It is as though they are telling us "we'll get the nomination and we don't need your vote to win the election."

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(51,907 posts)
1. Glance over the titles in the Clinton group
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:21 AM
Feb 2016

Zilch about what they are doing to elect their candidate. Nothing about issues, except for an occasional gun control post. Obviously not necessary if your candidate is inevitable.


(6,440 posts)
2. Yeah, the posts in the Bernie group are mostly about Bernie
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:25 AM
Feb 2016

While the posts in the Hillary group...are also mostly about Bernie!


(1,013 posts)
14. Keep working!!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:55 AM
Feb 2016

I just received phone bank email today
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 05:40:30 +0000

From: [email protected]
Subject: Here's what it will take to win


It's pretty simple. The more voters we contact, the better chance we have to win.
Saturday is the South Carolina primary. Then comes Super Tuesday on March 1st. Several other key state contests happen later in March. This is a crucial time to volunteer.

Volunteer now.

Phone Banking for Bernie - should list all locations near your zip code for you to check out.
Call Voters For Bernie
Every day: Bernie Dialer is available from 10am to 9pm local time

Thank you for everything you are doing to help Bernie win the nomination.
- Team Bernie



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. I still see a fair number of posts about Clinton or Clinton supporters popping up in the
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:42 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie group, and I wish they'd get pushed out quickly. I know people don't feel as 'safe' posting those diaries in GDP, but they don't belong in the Bernie group. If you (general, not you specifically) don't think you can post something without getting hidden elsewhere, you probably just shouldn't be posting it in the first place, much less in the group.


(51,907 posts)
4. By the numbers
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:25 AM
Feb 2016

Subscribers: 893
Number trashing: 153
Blocked: 257
Ratio subscribers to blocked: 3.47

Subscribers: 326
Number trashing: 223
Blocked: 598
Ratio subscribers to blocked: 0.55


(5,141 posts)
5. This, I find, is their answer to all serious issues brought up about HRC
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:00 AM
Feb 2016

Certainly that is an appropriate substitute for an intellectual exchange of ideas, no? I feel like I'm fucking talking to republicans all the time now.

My favorite gem from last night was about HRC's classified email and when one poster was completely, but without substantiating their take, dismissive of the idea that this was going to be an issue with HRC and was given proof that it in fact WOULD BE an issue, went on to say that it didn't matter because she'd never be indicted for it.



(41,600 posts)
10. "I feel like I'm fucking talking to republicans all the time now."
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:09 AM
Feb 2016

You are. They aren't Democrats and they certainly aren't Progressives.

They don't care that she's going to be indicted. They want a female president. There's no other reason a Progressive or Liberal should be voting for her.



(3,709 posts)
6. It's no different with the HRC supporters here than is is with some HRC supporters on Facebook.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:15 AM
Feb 2016

In an unsuccessful attempt to open the eyes and ears of one particular "Friend of a Fried", I've come to the conclusion that it wasn't a complete waste of my time because the links I provided can be opened by others who follow her feed, my friend's feed, and mine.

Anyway . . .

After referring to super-duper-delegates needed to "rig" the election---and providing the following link posted by a "Friend"---I'm waiting for her comeback.



(185 posts)
11. You know the repugs are starting to use that super delagate thing as a talking point now
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:29 AM
Feb 2016

And the more the HRC camp pushes it the more ammo it gives them while making more folks decide to just sit things out (and the current democratic primary voters rate drop shows).

But yeah. The snark level is going up and will be worse after tuesday. So get ready.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
8. They're feeling good that it looks like the buffoon Trump is the opposition.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:37 AM
Feb 2016

Which, in a normal year, would be good for Dems. But thanks to DWS trying to kill Dem enthusiasm as a Primary trick, to the Clinton fatigue, and the resurgence of all the drama that comes with a Clinton, even all of the voters Trump has been insulting may well not be enough. Enough people simply aren't enthused to vote for her, and my prediction if she is the nominee is that she will have negative coattails. She'll actually cost us even more more House seats, in addition to losing the WH.



(2,125 posts)
12. These are my fears as well
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:49 AM
Feb 2016

Additionally, I believe they don't care. As scary and as probable the scenario you describe is, they want her at all costs to the rest of us. It's not a talking point to say she can't win the GE, the numbers aren't there, the enthusiasm isn't there, the blind loyalty to the party that DWS destroyed isn't there.


(22,000 posts)
13. Yep
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:07 AM
Feb 2016

Some of them are so idiotic they are saying the primary will be over halfway through March.

Wait until tomorrow when you see the Hillary Hypocrites start threads saying Sanders should drop out.


(8,322 posts)
15. This strategy is reliant upon
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:46 AM
Feb 2016

Sanders people being herded onto the Clinton bandwagon after he is eliminated. The cudgel with which they will beat you is "SCOTUS".

No fence-mending; just guilt-tripping.

While Bush v. Gore was still winding its way to conclusion, Jim Hightower wrote that 308,000 registered Florida Democrats voted for George W. Bush in 2000 (and some people still blame Ralph Nader). Those Florida Dems -- 191,000 of whom were self-described "liberals" -- must not have gotten Barbra Streisand's memo that year.

Does repeating 2000's mistakes seem like the definition of insanity to you? Because it does to me.

The only rationale I can get to is that Clinton's 2016 PUMAs think they can recruit enough GOP voters who can't stand Trump to make up for what they will lose from the left wing of the Democratic Party. That seems like a very dangerous strategy to me.


(185 posts)
16. I think you're right.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

I think by now the HRC camp know that they PO'd enough Bernie supporters that they'll never get enough dems to win outright. The "lesser of two evils" path has all but lost it's steam and more folks are tuning out the MSM so what you posted is the only path for them. But I don't think it's gonna work, The DNC really f'd things up on this one. I'm just worried about the backlash if the unthinkable happens.


(10,786 posts)
17. They revel in the fact that the nomination is rigged in Clinton's favor.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:07 PM
Feb 2016

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And they revel in the fact that scared, old, black, and low information voters and voters who get all their news from corporate media outlets support Clinton.

And that and any polls that show Clinton currently winning are all they ever post about or talk about. Ever.


(185 posts)
18. And as a black Bernie supporter your post shows what I'm worried about
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:30 AM
Feb 2016

Namely a lot of folks are going to blame his loss on African-Americans which will hurt democratic unity even worse. Creating another group that instead of voting repug will just stay home instead. Much as I suspect Hispanics and other groups are doing now.

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