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Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:38 AM Feb 2016

I think I made two converts today

So, a few days a week I drive two elderly gents in my neighborhood to their doctors' appointments. They are both on SS and today for the first time the subject of politics came up. We were talking about the Uber driver who shot six people over the weekend and the subject of gun control came up and that segued into politics in general and I steered it to the primaries.

They volunteered that they were Dems so I asked them who they wanted nominated for the GE and without any enthusiasm they said, "Hillary, I guess." I asked them if they would be happy with her as president and of course they said she was better than any republican but that was all the good they could come up with. They said they wished Kerry or Biden had run and I said that I believed the field had been cleared so that Hillary would win and they agreed.

It was obvious they get their information from cable news sources so we got into her viability in the GE. We talked about the email investigation and they thought it wasn't that big a deal, that private computers are more secure than government ones. I was in disbelief, I don't know if that's some new meme the MSM is pushing or not. I asked them if they thought any SoS should be using private email to transmit top secret info and they said "of course not." So there is some cognitive dissonance going on.

I pointed out that whomever the republicans nominate, they would use this against her and it would be quite effective in stirring up opposition to her because the republicans put National Security as one of the top 2 or 3 issues on their agenda. They obviously hadn't considered this before so that was good. It got them thinking she was vulnerable here. That after 8 years of Obama the republicans are stirred up already and that would add to it.

Also, one of them has a prison record for some drug offense so I brought up mandatory minimums and the for-profit prison industry which Hillary supports and that got them angry. I said that her husband's policies resulted in many more people being locked up for non-violent drug offenses and that it was only getting worse and would continue with a Clinton presidency. Bernie OTOH would try to end it.

We were getting close to our destination so I really tried to sell Bernie and they of course said "He doesn't really have a chance." I disputed this with how far he has come and how fast. Despite the hype , he's actually ahead. I also said he would protect and even expand SS and they could never count on Hillary for that. I said people are starting to believe in him and he has a better chance in the GE and I think that clinched it for them.

I hope so anyway. I will see them later this week and now that this subject has been broached I will continue to work on them. Wish me luck.

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I think I made two converts today (Original Post) farleftlib Feb 2016 OP
Great work! fleur-de-lisa Feb 2016 #1
Sadly the writing is on the wall for Hillary. JonathanRackham Feb 2016 #2
Good work! dchill Feb 2016 #3

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