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Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:24 AM Oct 2015

Many, IMHO, talk themselves into a need for a gun for protection

rather then research the statistics which may show that the chances of them being a victim of a violent crime are very low. In my own case, being a middle aged white male living in rural Michigan, the possibility of me being a victim of a violent crime are practically zilch. And yet on Facebook, since the recent school shooting, I see many posts made by family and friends who live near me who are adamant on the need to have a gun or guns for self defense. I don't get into discussions with them on this as it'd be like getting into a debate with a fundamentalist who believes everything written in the Book of Genesis is factually true.

Over the years I've occasionally looked for articles where a citizen used a pump action, bolt action, or lever action rifle or a revolver for self defense but died because the gun they had didn't hold more then a few rounds. I have yet to find such a case. I've read posts here at DU made by members who have said they want a semi-auto pistol or rifle with magazines that hold 10+ rounds because of the chance they may need that many to save their own or a loved one's life in a self defense situation. The chances of that happening may be less then the chance of winning a mega-millions lottery but they have faith in their belief and that cannot be refuted by facts and statistics.

Numerous stories are posted here at DU about instances where a gun was needed and successfully used in self defense. It does happen but so also happens where people win large amounts of money playing the lottery or the local casino. The state lotteries and casinos really advertise the people who win or the amounts that could be won but say nothing of the great majority who do play who lose or that people who never play in their life do just fine.

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Many, IMHO, talk themselves into a need for a gun for protection (Original Post) Kaleva Oct 2015 OP
Said much the same comment earlier this am on fb. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #1
It'd be wiser for many to spend money on security doors, windows, locks,... Kaleva Oct 2015 #2
The vast majority of "at-home" break-ins Nevernose Oct 2015 #4
maybe.... Locrian Oct 2015 #3

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
1. Said much the same comment earlier this am on fb.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:33 AM
Oct 2015

I live in Upstate NY in a rural area and have much the same situation. Break-ins seldom occur when someone is home. Pros don't work that way, amateurs do. Also, those who keep guns for that reason often keep them under pillows,mattresses, in closets. Easily accessible. First place pros go. Easily fenced. Those are then the legal weapons that get sold illegally. How many more of our children have to be killed to satisfy the false myth?

Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
2. It'd be wiser for many to spend money on security doors, windows, locks,...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:46 AM
Oct 2015

outdoor lighting and such then on guns.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
4. The vast majority of "at-home" break-ins
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:44 PM
Oct 2015

Occur after the criminals have knocked or rung the doorbell and no one answered. Before someone robs your house, that is step one. A simple "Who is it?" will deter most non-drug-house-related home invasions.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
3. maybe....
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:00 AM
Oct 2015

Maybe it's because they have been exposed to about 100,000 movies and tv shows where the good guy (with a gun of course) stops the bad guy. Especially the ones where the good guy or his wife, child etc gets killled - but if they **just** would have had a gun.....

I'm not saying that it **causes** the violence, as there is debate to whether watching violence / video games / tv / movies causes people to act out or whether it gives them an outlet. And I'm not refuting the availability of guns as a factor.

But the omnipresent 24/7 gun ***advertising*** in the form of just about every movie, tv show, video game has to be the best method in the world for the would-be "heros" and for keeping people afraid of their own shadows.

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