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Post removed (Original Post) Post removed Oct 2014 OP
Huh? daleanime Oct 2014 #1
My reaction too. johnp3907 Oct 2014 #7
Mind boggling, isn't it? kcr Oct 2014 #2
on abso fuckin lutely. no fuggin' facts at all. all while pretending ALL the info was presented,YET seabeyond Oct 2014 #4
Yes, the child support really seals it. kcr Oct 2014 #5
i am waiting for info on video. again, creepy lawyer stuf, i have all lawyers one part of family. seabeyond Oct 2014 #8
now granted, my eyes are old. harder to pick up stuff. but, what i say, a shove? push? seabeyond Oct 2014 #11
That video that some claim is evidence she's the abuser? kcr Oct 2014 #12
shady. that is exactly it. and i saw this prior to the divorce, and let that one go. seabeyond Oct 2014 #14
mold, septic tank tells me. he is paying bare, gas, water, insurance, taxes, mortgage... ONLY seabeyond Oct 2014 #6
I know. I see criticism of her decisions, but really his choices are beyond the pale. kcr Oct 2014 #9
she has no choice. she has no power. she has few options. she has too little money. starving out seabeyond Oct 2014 #13
Women like this are tossed aside like used garbage kcr Oct 2014 #15
ya. lots of problems with it. this is why they point the finger and say... bad feminist. seabeyond Oct 2014 #17
ya know. i am so glad you started. damn, i quit smoking again. ya. and let me tell you fuggin why seabeyond Oct 2014 #3
Amen. JTFrog Oct 2014 #10
you got a post hidden. a most bulshit hide. but then, we are suppose to make these men like us so seabeyond Oct 2014 #16
What are we talking about? ismnotwasm Oct 2014 #18

kcr

(15,320 posts)
2. Mind boggling, isn't it?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:17 AM
Oct 2014

I could understand taking the position that it's personal and doesn't matter politically and support a Dem anyway. I'm not sure I could but I don't live in Florida thankfully so I don't have to make that decision. But to actually support what he's doing as if there was any excuse for it. I don't get it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. on abso fuckin lutely. no fuggin' facts at all. all while pretending ALL the info was presented,YET
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:06 AM
Oct 2014

it is from grayson and the lawyer

well.

dudes

just a man saying he does not want to pay child support, sinks him

a millionaire. saying he does not want to pay child support.

i do not care if it is a slimy "smart" weaseally lawyer trick. having all lawyers in one part of my family and my son going into it.

fuck that shit.

that alone tells me a whole hell of a lot

kcr

(15,320 posts)
5. Yes, the child support really seals it.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:10 AM
Oct 2014

He's scum using his high powered lawyers for his scumminess. It's one thing to try to get out of alimony. But child support? And demanding all hate money back during their 29 years for the "fraud" When she hasn't worked and he's one of the richest congressmen in the US. Not matter what she's done, that takes a special kind of asshole. That is Romney level cold. How anyone can look at that and defend it. Amazing.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. i am waiting for info on video. again, creepy lawyer stuf, i have all lawyers one part of family.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:14 AM
Oct 2014

dude, here is the camera. lets see what we get.

body alone was hunch to make him more reachable.

what did he say?

and seems like i saw a longer piece

and i really never heard ay factual stuff after the first airing. first i heard divorce. brilliant, rollin eyes, lawyer move.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. now granted, my eyes are old. harder to pick up stuff. but, what i say, a shove? push?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:16 AM
Oct 2014

did she even make contact? get out of here, .... movement? i dunno know.

but i do know this is a whole lot of much bigger and stronger men, .... creating this as the ultimate in disgusting domestic violence, and i do not know that i am comfortable with that.

always wanting to be righteous in standing with any victim.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
12. That video that some claim is evidence she's the abuser?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:17 AM
Oct 2014

Yes, I only saw the one when that story broke and then heard nothing after that. What a ridiculous claim that is. He's so shady.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. shady. that is exactly it. and i saw this prior to the divorce, and let that one go.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:19 AM
Oct 2014

i could not define it. that is it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. mold, septic tank tells me. he is paying bare, gas, water, insurance, taxes, mortgage... ONLY
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:11 AM
Oct 2014

she is paying repairs and maintenence. why? cause it is gonna kill. she cannot. even at minimum wage, she can not care for a home that costs??? i dunno. it matters. that info matters. what moron is going to make adament statements about the $ with a number.

personally, i need the numbers. he says 10k a month for house then wow. million or more....

and her lack of job, or minimum wage will take care of that house?

go to an apartment? maybe easier, but still. really? 5 kids 3, 4 apartment, bad part of town (i hear some cheering)

millionaire dad drops kids into poverty

got that.

and a woman that for 3 decades (give or take, numbers, i have seen different ones) have taken care of the kids and this life, ... without pay as grayson is making his money, campaigning and sittin in wa. not being a presents there. but the mom was there.

take the kids. cause she cannot afford.

come on

kcr

(15,320 posts)
9. I know. I see criticism of her decisions, but really his choices are beyond the pale.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:14 AM
Oct 2014

I can't imagine being faced with such cruelty.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. she has no choice. she has no power. she has few options. she has too little money. starving out
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:18 AM
Oct 2014

he has taken all her ability to be flexible in choice for the best of her nad the kids are taken away.
this is what the $ hostage thing is all about.

she cannot get a 3, 4 bedroom place pay all the bills, with child support, maybe minimum wage job, the kids lifestyle, ... clubs, sports, expenses.... millionaire kids

she has no option. she is stuck in that house.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
15. Women like this are tossed aside like used garbage
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:25 AM
Oct 2014

Some of the people defending Grayson defend this kind of thing just on principle because they think women choose this lifestyle so it's okay to toss them aside. It's sick.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
17. ya. lots of problems with it. this is why they point the finger and say... bad feminist.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:31 AM
Oct 2014

that is why we see the blame everywhere we look.

because we really do not buy into the line of throwing away the wife, five kids, cause ... oh, who the fuck knows. ya know?

this man who has not been around the kids while campaigning and living in wa, wants to take the kids and finish the job. he wont be around. he will hire someone.

and we have men on du demanding us parents accept this as "good" parenting decisions.

aint gonna happen

as he leaves them in mold and starvin' them out


 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. ya know. i am so glad you started. damn, i quit smoking again. ya. and let me tell you fuggin why
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:03 AM
Oct 2014

but i have to thinking this out.

but the whine of money she was getting. what he has. the environment. people on here say she was rich i tell you, with him paying everything (not), and her getting so much (not), cause after all we have to live on this.

million raised kids, dropped to almost poverty.

and we CHEEEEEEEEEEER

let them suck it up.

ya.

i have things to say

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. you got a post hidden. a most bulshit hide. but then, we are suppose to make these men like us so
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:28 AM
Oct 2014

we do not get hides, skinner says.

hm

hey. i could not read that thread after my few commments last nite.

why?

cause it was looking like a MRA meltdown. sure do love a dude or two on that thread though.

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