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LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:07 PM Mar 2013

I decided to be honest on the MFO Facebook page about what happened to me

A couple of guys very quickly reposted their photos to keep it from being on top of the feed. No comments, no likes. Exactly what I expected. My heart is still pounding. Can't believe how scary it was to tell the truth of the rape. I'm glad I did it though. Maybe more females who served there will come forward too.

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I decided to be honest on the MFO Facebook page about what happened to me (Original Post) LiberalLoner Mar 2013 OP
That was amazingly brave of you. Squinch Mar 2013 #1
Thank you. Used my real name too. LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #2
I don't think I would ever have that kind of courage. Squinch Mar 2013 #3
Actually I'm fighting shame. I was a bad girl and told the truth LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #6
I haven't had your experience, but I understand that reaction. Squinch Mar 2013 #8
Thank you, I will. LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #9
. Squinch Mar 2013 #11
What a brave thing you have done! Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #14
What a fantastic comment: CrispyQ Mar 2013 #17
I only realized it as I was writing it. But it's a central lesson of my life. Squinch Mar 2013 #19
+1 LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #25
No, you were NEVER a bad girl. I wish I can get my hands on whoever told you that. idwiyo Mar 2013 #13
Hugs. That was a very brave thing to do. Thank you. idwiyo Mar 2013 #4
Thank you. I also broke the military training that says dont talk about the bad stuff... LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #7
Fuck them and their training. You did what is RIGHT. That's what your training should have been. idwiyo Mar 2013 #12
Thank you so much! LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #15
K&R idwiyo Mar 2013 #5
We admire you LL. Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #10
Thank you all so very much! I am speechless at how much support I've gotten here! Thank you! I LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #16
There will be a lot of people who won't comment, CrispyQ Mar 2013 #18
Thank you! LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #22
What is the "MFO Facebook page"? MadrasT Mar 2013 #20
Oh, it's a Facebook page for those of us who are or have ever been, LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #21
You are very brave. I am in awe..... Little Star Mar 2013 #23
Thank you! But I think my experiences are the norm for women, not LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #24

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
3. I don't think I would ever have that kind of courage.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:24 PM
Mar 2013

I would be angry about the fact that it got no response though. How are you feeling about that?

I think you are probably right. It will take a few days, but I bet others will join you in this.

Even if they don't, there is someone or there are a number of someones out there who are very very grateful to you for voicing their experience.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
6. Actually I'm fighting shame. I was a bad girl and told the truth
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:47 PM
Mar 2013

So I am battling fear and shame. I know what I did was right but the early, intensive training I got as a child remains...

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
8. I haven't had your experience, but I understand that reaction.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:53 PM
Mar 2013

I wish I had some method I could suggest that would help that go away.

From the outside looking in, though, I am in awe of your courage, your valour and your insistence on the truth.

Insisting on the truth is always hard the first day, and it always gets easier from there till it gives you joy. Hiding the truth is always easy the first day, and gets harder till it kills you.

Please take some time to be quiet today, and please try and feel the pride you should be feeling about what you did.

CrispyQ

(36,463 posts)
17. What a fantastic comment:
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:43 AM
Mar 2013

"Insisting on the truth is always hard the first day, and it always gets easier from there till it gives you joy. Hiding the truth is always easy the first day, and gets harder till it kills you."

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
19. I only realized it as I was writing it. But it's a central lesson of my life.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:50 AM
Mar 2013

I'm writing a novel, and I just realized that that is the central theme of it. I better put that quote in there somewhere.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
13. No, you were NEVER a bad girl. I wish I can get my hands on whoever told you that.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:39 PM
Mar 2013

There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed about. You did exactly the right thing.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
12. Fuck them and their training. You did what is RIGHT. That's what your training should have been.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
Mar 2013

By coming forward You WILL encourage others to do the same. What you did helps others to realise there is NOTHING to be ashamed about and it helps to send a message that they can't just pretend its not a problem and try to keep it quiet. It WILL help others. It will.

You did a damn great and brave thing. You MUST BE proud of yourself. I am sure as hell am proud of you.

Lots and lots of hugs from me.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
16. Thank you all so very much! I am speechless at how much support I've gotten here! Thank you! I
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:37 AM
Mar 2013

got a couple of replies on the MFO page. One was from a female soldier who was there ten years after me, saying she was sorry that happened to me.

Another was from a male soldier who is or was a First Sergeant (very important leadership position in Army units, maybe the most important leadership position, really) saying that there are still some coed facilities but now there are separate male and female bathrooms and showers, which is an improvement, and there are still some incidents, one even this year, but that things generally are better. I know that he meant to reassure me but I'm not reassured, I think it's still a bad situation to have, and I think the military in general has a ways to go to combat rape. But maybe my post will make commanders more aware of the problem. I'm hoping anyway.

I'm glad I didn't get any cruel replies. I was so scared to click on the comments I received, and I was so relieved when I saw they weren't mean in spirit but helpful instead.

You guys are awesome. Thank you all so much for supporting me in this and for just being so wonderful in general.

CrispyQ

(36,463 posts)
18. There will be a lot of people who won't comment,
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:47 AM
Mar 2013

but are grateful for your post. That took courage, LL, especially using your real name. Like Squinch above said:

Insisting on the truth is always hard the first day, and it always gets easier from there till it gives you joy. Hiding the truth is always easy the first day, and gets harder till it kills you.

I love this comment! It is so true! And I'll bet you find that it is, too.

Peace.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
20. What is the "MFO Facebook page"?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:52 AM
Mar 2013

(I will always support speaking out and telling the truth about rape.)

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
21. Oh, it's a Facebook page for those of us who are or have ever been,
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:33 AM
Mar 2013

Stationed in the Multinational Force and Observers in the Sinai, Egypt.

It is a very isolated post with the men vastly outnumbering females. And most are Infantry, which has a culture of using prostitutes in Korea and other places. So they are conditioned to think of females that way when in what they call "hardship tours" - those where families are not allowed.

Ps I decided to post it there because units constantly rotate in and out. Figured it was the best way to do the most good.

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