2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy This Socialist Feminist Is For Hillary
http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-for-hillary/The stalled revolution for gender equity wont be won simply by installing a woman in the White Housebut it cant hurt.
Long article
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At first glance, youd probably guess that I would proudly don a Feel the Bern T-shirt and make a generous donation to the democratic socialist firing up the Democratic Party. Born to leftists themselves born to leftists, I am what is known in some circles as a red-diaper baby.
My immigrant Jewish grandparents met in New York City, at a meeting of the Young Peoples Socialist League on the Lower East Side, and I grew up more familiar with the words to labor anthems than to those of The Star-Spangled Banner. My mother was an activist in the civil-rights movement who later engaged with feminism, antiwar activism, and the vast panoply of progressive issues that ebbed and flowed through our national politics over the past half-century.
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For those of us on the left, the pressure to join the Bernie Express is intense. Friends and colleagues, casual Facebook acquaintances and lifelong political allies alike, all throw up their hands in despair or sneer in disgust if you dont pledge allegiance to the candidate whose strength and broad appeal in the primary has been both surprising and energizing to progressives used to holding our noses and voting for the lesser of two evils. Never mind that I will gladly vote and work for Bernie if he is the nominee, and I applaud the way he has pushed Hillary to the left. For refusing to back Bernie in the primary, Im a dupe and a traitor; Im a tool of (take your pick) imperialist, war-mongering, militaristic, in-the-pocket-of-Wall-Street corporate hacks.
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Heres why: I want a woman presidentand, no, not any woman president. Hillary is not, as her detractors would have it, Margaret Thatcher or Carly Fiorinaor Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann, or some other female candidate whose platform rests on antipathy to any feminist concerns. Like most in the Democratic Party, she is a centrist. In her political orientation, deep intelligence, and policy wonkishness, she is similar to Obamaand not as dissimilar to Bernie as one might imagine. Still, I support her less for her specific political positions (some of which I agree with, many of which I do notall of which are far superior to the racist/sexist/xenophobic sideshow that is the Republican primary field) than for the iconic value of electing the first woman president of the United States.
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Feminist Hillary supporters are not, as some would have it, identity-politics clones who would support any woman, regardless of her positions. To suggest this smacks of a dismissive sexism that colors the discourse of both left- and right-wing Hillary haters. And the idea that Hillarys victory would be merely symbolic underestimates the profound import of symbolism and obscures her explicit alliance with (some version of) feminism and her clear qualifications for the job. As with Obama and racism, her candidacy is bringing sexism out into the opennot that its ever far from the surface!both the Trump-like horror of the female body, and a curiously visceral and over-the-top cottage industry on the left of anti-Hillary haters (as if she were the enemy and not right-wing Republicans?). But like the racist fervor that greeted Obama, the misogyny bubbling over will make plain the deep gender inequities that persist despite decades of feminist work, and finally put to rest the lie that this revolution is largely won.
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Me: Thank you so much Ms. Walters for saying what I've wanted to say!!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)She is not voting for her positions. Clinton is a centrist (hahaha!) and this woman is a socialist.
She is voting for a 'profound import of symbolism'.
She is still voting based on gender alone.
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)That is where the vast majority of Clinton's support stems from. It sure isn't about progressive values.
As a progressive, yes indeed.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)by Liza Featherstone which is linked as a related article to the piece you posted! I didn't see the Featherstone piece link the first time I read this one when it was posted before awhile back!
http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-not-voting-for-hillary/
artislife
(9,497 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)They have everything to do with gender.
William769
(55,147 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Before 2000 I voted Socialist. Sanders never impressed the socialist side of me, PLUS his math doesn't even add up.
This article speaks for me in a lot of ways
George II
(67,782 posts)....of voting that has been invariably the Democratic candidate.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)I don't agree with some of Bernie's positions and I don't think he can be elected. I don't think he would be a very effective president. He's a good senator.
Hillary Clinton is more centrist than I, but I have confidence in her ability to lead and deal with Congress. She's tough as nails. She can win.
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sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)This article has been posted before, and it makes two basic points- one is, support Hillary because she's a woman, and two is, it is sexist to suggest that people are supporting Hillary because she's a woman.
Specifically, the last and second to last paragraphs directly contradict each other.
Fine, if you want to support Hillary because she's a woman. That's legit, really.
But it's a little disingenuous to get mad when other people notice.