Bernie Sanders Falls Behind in a Race Centered on Security

[NCTraveler]

GOFFSTOWN, N.H. — In his opening remarks at the Democratic presidential debate on Saturday, Senator Bernie Sanders railed against “establishment politics and establishment economics” and then the nation’s “rigged economy.” He moved on to the “corrupt” campaign finance system, then the “planetary crisis of climate change.” Only after that did he say he wanted to destroy the Islamic State.

It was a litany of priorities that made good sense when Mr. Sanders announced his presidential bid in April. But after the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif., he made fighting terrorism sound like an afterthought.

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“Hillary is now in the driver’s seat in a way she has never been before,” said Arnie Arnesen, a New Hampshire liberal and talk radio host who admires Mr. Sanders but is uncommitted in the race. “It’s Bernie’s turn to pivot.”

“I don’t know if he can,” she added, “or whether his base will approve. They love him for the man he is, not the leader he needs to become.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/us/politics/bernie-sanders-falls-behind-in-a-race-centered-on-security.html?_r=0

[Fawke Em]

1. The New York Times in now no better than someone's personal blog

after the stunt they pulled this weekend.

Every smart person has posted over the weekend that Sanders was BETTER than the other two on national security if, for nothing else, he's not insane (doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results).

[NCTraveler]

2. So, it was the stunt this weekend that did it for you.

Not when they knowingly lied about Clinton, retracted the lie, then went with it again three days later.

The weekend is what did it for you. lol.

[Fawke Em]

3. Way to miss the point.

The point is that smart people think Sanders' approach is better.

[NCTraveler]

6. Maybe that's the point.

I don't make grand statements about my intelligence and support Clinton. I get you impress yourself with your intelligence.

"The point is that smart people think Sanders' approach is better."

Should I go ahead and list the people you are saying aren't smart. lol. I don't think you even believe what you are typing here. Just trying to be as offensive as you can be. Well done.

[Fawke Em]

7. Y'all say that it's all her all the time.

I don't give a fuck.

Go ahead and give that list of elected dumb fucks.

I AM smarter than you because I don't pretend to wear tin foil.

[NCTraveler]

8. Lol

I'm impressed.

[joshcryer]

9. Wait, so you actually wear tin foil?

[Lordquinton]

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[NCTraveler]

12. Lol

Pretty sure they are being tongue in cheek. The exchange gave me a chuckle.

[NCTraveler]

11. Goodmorning.

Quick question if you wouldn't mind. I have interest in patters of the super intelligent and successful. Many super intelligent people, unlike you, have difficulty finding success in life. A percentage of them find great difficulty staying centered. Some of the most intelligent in history have written about just that. You seem to have mastered it. How do you start your mornings? Special breakfast? Yoga? Etc. Do you take any actions during the day to help with the stress? Nighttime rituals?

Thanks and I look forward to your response. I understand you might not want to discuss that information if it is in your upcoming autobiography. But how do you parlay your superior intelligence into such great success in other areas? It's not always a given. Thanks.

[Katashi_itto]

19. Oh no thats not it at all. You just don't impress us with yours

[NCTraveler]

20. Understood. Thankfully I'm not here to impress. lol. It's working.

But you might actually want to read what they post. Seems you didn't.

"I AM smarter than you"

I love that line of theirs. I have a feeling they are still sleeping.

[Katashi_itto]

21. No idea what they are doing i am sitting here doped up

Waiting on foot surgery and everything is funny. Be nice to get this fixed. It's interfering with my Kendo practice.

[NCTraveler]

22. Thanks. That explains it. Hope every thing goes as best as it can. nt.

[Katashi_itto]

23. Oh it should be fine thanks for the sentiment

[NCTraveler]

25. Just looked up Kendo. Very cool. nt.

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[MoonRiver]

24. My husband and I both have doctorates.

But in your limited perspective, we're "stupid."

[NCTraveler]

26. Yup. That's the jist of it. nt.

[okasha]

31. These self-comforting remarks are so obvious.

Better thsn drugs, though, I suppose.

[Kentonio]

4. Hmm..

"In his opening remarks at the Democratic presidential debate on Saturday, Senator Bernie Sanders railed against “establishment politics and establishment economics” and then the nation’s “rigged economy.” He moved on to the “corrupt” campaign finance system, then the “planetary crisis of climate change.” Only after that did he say he wanted to destroy the Islamic State."

Could that perhaps be the simple fact that every one of those things is considerably more important to the lives of Americans than destroying ISIS is?

[NurseJackie]

13. He's a one-trick pony. He needs to be able to multi-task and (at the very least) stay ...

... on topic without reverting back to his comfortable and well-rehearsed whistle-stop stump speech talking points.

He's single-minded almost to the exclusion of everything else.

[Kentonio]

14. The public are dreadful at focusing on the important issues

Instead of getting distracted by whatever this weeks shiny thing in the news it. It's about time we had a politician who cut through the bullshit.

[NurseJackie]

15. Yeah! Stupid voters!

[Kentonio]

16. They voted Bush in twice in case you missed it. And Reagan. And Nixon etc etc

[NurseJackie]

18. "Voted Bush in..." LOL!

I'm sure there are other Republicans you can name too. As well as other Democrats.

What a lame argument.

[MoonRiver]

27. The electorate did not vote dimson in.

They voted Gore and Kerry in. The winners were just not allowed to take office.

[NorthCarolina]

5. Funny, I don't recall him mentioning that

he was stating his points in order of importance. Can someone please provide me with a link to where he mentioned that?

[Cha]

17. Thank you for this, NCT.

[hobbit709]

29. Security? what security? The bomb them faster than we create them plan isn't working too well.

[PowerToThePeople]

30. I will never vote for war.

[NightWatcher]

32. Some Belgiums shoot up Paris so now we're supposed to be scared?

Sorry, I'm not going to be scared into voting for violence and less rights all because of an isolated incident halfway around the world.

I'm going to vote for sound fiscal policies that actually affect my life.

Bernie!!!