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Bill Press & Roland Martin: "I SMELL A RAT" (Original Post) Segami Dec 2015 OP
Hm...a Bernie supporter and a Hillary hater...Yeah, I'm sure they're not biased at all. Metric System Dec 2015 #1
Sorry, we couldn't find anyone with the right bloodline for you. Segami Dec 2015 #2
LOL... damn muggles Bubzer Dec 2015 #30
Feel the Hate! HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #5
The facts don't match your spin: Metric System Dec 2015 #7
Reports: 4 Sanders Staffers Searched Clinton Data And Saved Files MADem Dec 2015 #29
The DNC is not even close to factual on this. The DNC was obligated to provide 10 days notice. Bubzer Dec 2015 #32
I think, come next week, they'll come to the conclusion that the Sanders campaign behaved badly. MADem Dec 2015 #38
Thank you for posting this UglyGreed Dec 2015 #3
Notice how at the end they both said marlakay Dec 2015 #4
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #6
Love how they all laughed incredulously about saturday night debates Matariki Dec 2015 #8
Can their message be any clearer? Segami Dec 2015 #9
Roland: "I'd think you'd want 18 to 20 million people watching the debates" Matariki Dec 2015 #10
Thanks Segami... You Rock... Where Did You Find The Vid ??? WillyT Dec 2015 #11
On YouTube searched for Bill Press Segami Dec 2015 #12
:banghead: WillyT Dec 2015 #13
Thank you! leftcoastmountains Dec 2015 #14
thank you! K&R mountain grammy Dec 2015 #15
Giant big stinking rat. nt. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #16
Never did get an explanation from DWS about why the Sat. debates and why so few.. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #17
too costly reddread Dec 2015 #19
Yes, the DNC has explained that. They wanted most of the debates to be viewable pnwmom Dec 2015 #40
Are you actually saying the last two debates will ONLY be.streamed? hedda_foil Dec 2015 #45
I don't think so. I think the non-network ones would also be viewable on cable. pnwmom Dec 2015 #46
Thanks! hedda_foil Dec 2015 #47
Please Be Safe Bernie. Phlem Dec 2015 #18
K&R! bvf Dec 2015 #20
Yep, this could be what takes down DWS. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #21
No way! Debbie wants her payoff Proserpina Dec 2015 #23
Yeah, she can sell them at Home Depot nt Depaysement Dec 2015 #26
LOL! Proserpina Dec 2015 #27
If DWS is still the DNC chairperson after tomorrow there is something terribly wrong. INdemo Dec 2015 #33
Thank you, Segami! ReallyIAmAnOptimist Dec 2015 #22
Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #24
If the Clinton Campaign knew about these corrupt actions by DWS and the DNC INdemo Dec 2015 #25
Criminal would be hard to stick Proserpina Dec 2015 #28
Well maybe but Gary Hart was forced to quit for a lot less. INdemo Dec 2015 #31
That was a POLITICAL decision Proserpina Dec 2015 #34
If Hillary wins the nomination I dont believe she will win the General INdemo Dec 2015 #43
Talk about a fatal error on the part of the DNC Clinton faction Android3.14 Dec 2015 #41
They are trying to blame "young people" -- that Data Director did not look very "young" to me MADem Dec 2015 #35
It's always a pleasure seeing Bill Press. forest444 Dec 2015 #36
think DNC/DWS stepped in Brown 25 PatrynXX Dec 2015 #37
K & R for Bernie! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #39
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #42
kick Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #44
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. Feel the Hate!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:34 PM
Dec 2015

Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate hate...

Get over it. This blew up in the DNC's face.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
7. The facts don't match your spin:
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:37 PM
Dec 2015

***Another person familiar with the investigation also told NBC News that a total of four individuals affiliated with the Sanders campaign appear to have accessed the data, including Uretsky and Deputy National Data Director Russell Drapkin.

A series of documents outlining an audit trail maintained by the database company, obtained and reviewed by NBC News, shows that the four individuals spent a total of about 40 minutes conducting searches of the Clinton data. Those searches included terms that point to Sanders’ team gaining access to proprietary lists from more than 10 early voting states of Clinton’s likely supporters as well as lists for Sanders backers. That data was saved to personal folders.

It also appears that Drapkin “suppressed” two folders after the database company became aware of the breach.

The Clinton campaign learned of the breach on Wednesday, a source told NBC News.***

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/documents-show-sanders-staffers-breached-clinton-voter-data

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. Reports: 4 Sanders Staffers Searched Clinton Data And Saved Files
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:38 PM
Dec 2015
Computer logs show that Sanders employees conducted 25 searches of Clinton campaign information, according to the Associated Press. The staffers spent 40 minutes searching through Clinton's data, according to NBC News. The searches conducted by the Sanders campaign suggest that they could access the Clinton campaign's voter files for 10 early primary states, according to NBC.

NBC reported that the Sanders saved files of Clinton information. Deputy national data director Russell Drapkin was among the staffers who searched for Cilnton data, and he "suppressed" two folders of information after the DNC's vendor learned of the software bug, according to NBC.

When asked about reports that staffers saved the Clinton campaign's voter information on Friday, Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said that "no data that I'm aware of was exported in a way that could be used by anybody."

The Sanders campaign fired its national data director, Josh Uretsky, for inappropriately viewing the Clinton campaign's data....The DNC defended its decision to suspend the Sanders campaign from voter information on Friday, noting that by accessing Clinton campaign data, the Sanders campaign "violated the agreement that all the presidential campaigns have signed with the DNC."



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-staffers-clinton-data-saved-files


Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
32. The DNC is not even close to factual on this. The DNC was obligated to provide 10 days notice.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:48 PM
Dec 2015

Here are the details of the lawsuit. It includes the ACTUAL CONTRACT!
http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000151-b72f-d1ae-add5-f76f14db0001

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. I think, come next week, they'll come to the conclusion that the Sanders campaign behaved badly.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:00 PM
Dec 2015

You don't fire someone if no one did anything wrong. They're trying to save the other three who downloaded the voting information for IA and NH and early primary states.

Further, they did NOT tell the vendor about the breach this time They did way back in October, but this time, they were caught with their hands in the cookie jar:

http://americablog.com/2015/12/audit-shows-sanders-campaign-downloaded-saved-clinton-data.html



When the breach was first reported and the campaign saw their voter file access suspended, Sanders’s campaign manager claimed that no information had been saved, and that Clinton data had only been accessed by one “low-level” staffer (who was fired on the spot) and that the campaign immediately notified NGP VAN that there had been a breach. That “low-level” staffer turned out to be Josh Uretsky, the campaign’s now-former national data director, who reportedly shared access with three other members of Sanders’s campaign, including deputy data director Russell Drapkin. Furthermore, while the Sanders campaign had taken the initiative to contact NGP VAN when a similar breach occurred in October, they were not the ones who alerted the vendor to the breach this time around.

Finally, while Uretsky told CNN earlier today that “To the best of my knowledge, nobody took anything that would have given the (Sanders) campaign any benefit,” it appears as though the best of Uretsky’s knowledge is…limited:


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marlakay

(11,576 posts)
4. Notice how at the end they both said
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:32 PM
Dec 2015

They were going to christmas parties tomorrow night.....

Just proves everyones point about Debbie and the debates.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
10. Roland: "I'd think you'd want 18 to 20 million people watching the debates"
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:45 PM
Dec 2015

on "burying the debates on a saturday night"

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
11. Thanks Segami... You Rock... Where Did You Find The Vid ???
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:45 PM
Dec 2015

I was refreshing their YouTube channel because they had a vid from the hour before.








pnwmom

(109,039 posts)
40. Yes, the DNC has explained that. They wanted most of the debates to be viewable
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:16 PM
Dec 2015

by anyone who had a TV. Not a computer and not a cable subscription -- just a TV. (More people in the US have TV's than phones. TV ownership is almost universal.)

So they have 4 debates with the big 3 networks, plus PBS. The other two will be streamed. But the networks, unlike cable stations, didn't want to preempt their weeknight programming for a debate. If they wanted time on the networks, they needed to schedule their debates on the weekend.

If you check the GOP debate schedule, you will see that their network debates are also on Saturday nights. But most were during the week because they weren't worried about their viewers having to pay for cable.

hedda_foil

(16,381 posts)
45. Are you actually saying the last two debates will ONLY be.streamed?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:13 PM
Dec 2015

If so,it would mean that only diehard supporters will watch, letting Her Majesty coast into South Carolina, Nevada and super Tuesday.

And all of the Republican debates are being televised on basic cable, if not over the air.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
21. Yep, this could be what takes down DWS.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:45 PM
Dec 2015

And maybe, just maybe she will turn on Hillary and expose any part she played in the travesty.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
27. LOL!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:36 PM
Dec 2015

I'm in the throes of remodelling, and taking all my business to Menard's new Super Store....so there!

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
33. If DWS is still the DNC chairperson after tomorrow there is something terribly wrong.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:51 PM
Dec 2015

President should ask her to resign or outright fire her.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
25. If the Clinton Campaign knew about these corrupt actions by DWS and the DNC
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:27 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary Clinton should be forced to resign her candidacy .There have been Presidential candidates forced to resign for a hell of a lot less than this.(Gary Hart)
And for Hillary and Bill this might just be the srtaw that broke the camels back.
I cannot imagine the excuses we will hear from the Hillary supporters but Im betting we will hear some doozies.

I think the way this story broke and the headlines that were produced were certainly co-ordinated with the MSM and the DNC/DWS for the sole purpose of discrediting Bernie Sanders and the Sanders campaign and there should be some criminal issues here against DWS and the DNC and even the Clinton campaign.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
28. Criminal would be hard to stick
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:37 PM
Dec 2015

Civil torts for contract violations, and then public calumny for being stupid is the best we can hope for.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
34. That was a POLITICAL decision
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:51 PM
Dec 2015

when the entire party turned against him, Hart took a nose count and bowed out.

I don't think DWS and the DNC can count that high...they've pissed off half the electorate, if not more. They don't have enough fingers and toes for the job.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
43. If Hillary wins the nomination I dont believe she will win the General
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

Its sad but I think there will be Democrats that will stay home.
Stats show that 14% of Democrats will not vote for Hillary.
Doesn't mean they will vote for a Repuke but rather they will skip this one.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
41. Talk about a fatal error on the part of the DNC Clinton faction
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:24 PM
Dec 2015

This will be the gift that keeps on giving.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. They are trying to blame "young people" -- that Data Director did not look very "young" to me
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:52 PM
Dec 2015
The moment could provide a boost to Sanders, who has stagnated in the polls as Clinton has bolstered her lead in the polls after delivering solid debate performances and surviving a round of questioning from U.S. House Republicans over the attack at the country’s embassy in Libya.
But there’s risk, too: An audit showed Sanders’ campaign repeatedly accessed sensitive voter information belonging to the Clinton campaign, threatening Sanders’ attempt to commandeer the moral and ethical high ground in the race.


‘Unprecedented’ Punishment

Casting Sanders as the victim, Weaver suggested that it was excessive punishment for what he described as a minor infraction by “young people” who made “misjudgments.” ....

According to an NGP VAN audit of their recent data breach obtained by Bloomberg, multiple NGP VAN users associated with Bernie Sanders’s campaign downloaded and saved lists based on Clinton campaign data during a brief window in which the firewall between campaigns’ data was down on Wednesday.

According to Bloomberg,”Staffers conducted searches that would be especially advantageous to the campaign, including lists of its likeliest supporters in 10 early voting states, including Iowa and New Hampshire.”

That’s a huge deal, and contradicts the Sanders campaign’s original response to the incident.

When the breach was first reported and the campaign saw their voter file access suspended, Sanders’s campaign manager claimed that no information had been saved, and that Clinton data had only been accessed by one “low-level” staffer (who was fired on the spot) and that the campaign immediately notified NGP VAN that there had been a breach. That “low-level” staffer turned out to be Josh Uretsky, the campaign’s now-former national data director, who reportedly shared access with three other members of Sanders’s campaign, including deputy data director Russell Drapkin. Furthermore, while the Sanders campaign had taken the initiative to contact NGP VAN when a similar breach occurred in October, they were not the ones who alerted the vendor to the breach this time around.

http://americablog.com/2015/12/audit-shows-sanders-campaign-downloaded-saved-clinton-data.html

forest444

(5,902 posts)
36. It's always a pleasure seeing Bill Press.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:54 PM
Dec 2015

Like most of us, I remember him from CNN's Crossfire in the late '90s and early 2000s. Definitely one of a dying breed of real journalists on cable news (imagine that).

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