2016 Postmortem
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(6,048 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate hate...
Get over it. This blew up in the DNC's face.
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(6,048 posts)***Another person familiar with the investigation also told NBC News that a total of four individuals affiliated with the Sanders campaign appear to have accessed the data, including Uretsky and Deputy National Data Director Russell Drapkin.
A series of documents outlining an audit trail maintained by the database company, obtained and reviewed by NBC News, shows that the four individuals spent a total of about 40 minutes conducting searches of the Clinton data. Those searches included terms that point to Sanders team gaining access to proprietary lists from more than 10 early voting states of Clintons likely supporters as well as lists for Sanders backers. That data was saved to personal folders.
It also appears that Drapkin suppressed two folders after the database company became aware of the breach.
The Clinton campaign learned of the breach on Wednesday, a source told NBC News.***
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/documents-show-sanders-staffers-breached-clinton-voter-data
MADem
(135,425 posts)Computer logs show that Sanders employees conducted 25 searches of Clinton campaign information, according to the Associated Press. The staffers spent 40 minutes searching through Clinton's data, according to NBC News. The searches conducted by the Sanders campaign suggest that they could access the Clinton campaign's voter files for 10 early primary states, according to NBC.
NBC reported that the Sanders saved files of Clinton information. Deputy national data director Russell Drapkin was among the staffers who searched for Cilnton data, and he "suppressed" two folders of information after the DNC's vendor learned of the software bug, according to NBC.
When asked about reports that staffers saved the Clinton campaign's voter information on Friday, Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said that "no data that I'm aware of was exported in a way that could be used by anybody."
The Sanders campaign fired its national data director, Josh Uretsky, for inappropriately viewing the Clinton campaign's data....The DNC defended its decision to suspend the Sanders campaign from voter information on Friday, noting that by accessing Clinton campaign data, the Sanders campaign "violated the agreement that all the presidential campaigns have signed with the DNC."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-staffers-clinton-data-saved-files
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Here are the details of the lawsuit. It includes the ACTUAL CONTRACT!
http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000151-b72f-d1ae-add5-f76f14db0001
MADem
(135,425 posts)You don't fire someone if no one did anything wrong. They're trying to save the other three who downloaded the voting information for IA and NH and early primary states.
Further, they did NOT tell the vendor about the breach this time They did way back in October, but this time, they were caught with their hands in the cookie jar:
http://americablog.com/2015/12/audit-shows-sanders-campaign-downloaded-saved-clinton-data.html
When the breach was first reported and the campaign saw their voter file access suspended, Sanderss campaign manager claimed that no information had been saved, and that Clinton data had only been accessed by one low-level staffer (who was fired on the spot) and that the campaign immediately notified NGP VAN that there had been a breach. That low-level staffer turned out to be Josh Uretsky, the campaigns now-former national data director, who reportedly shared access with three other members of Sanderss campaign, including deputy data director Russell Drapkin. Furthermore, while the Sanders campaign had taken the initiative to contact NGP VAN when a similar breach occurred in October, they were not the ones who alerted the vendor to the breach this time around.
Finally, while Uretsky told CNN earlier today that To the best of my knowledge, nobody took anything that would have given the (Sanders) campaign any benefit, it appears as though the best of Uretskys knowledge is limited:
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Sanders campaign saved Clinton lists including "HFA Support" & "HFA Turnout" in various age ranges for key states http://bloom.bg/1NsJQaU
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UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)I missed it on MSNBC
marlakay
(11,576 posts)They were going to christmas parties tomorrow night.....
Just proves everyones point about Debbie and the debates.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)on "burying the debates on a saturday night"
WillyT
(72,631 posts)I was refreshing their YouTube channel because they had a vid from the hour before.
Segami
(14,923 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)mountain grammy
(26,718 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Maybe I missed it.
reddread
(6,896 posts)pnwmom
(109,039 posts)by anyone who had a TV. Not a computer and not a cable subscription -- just a TV. (More people in the US have TV's than phones. TV ownership is almost universal.)
So they have 4 debates with the big 3 networks, plus PBS. The other two will be streamed. But the networks, unlike cable stations, didn't want to preempt their weeknight programming for a debate. If they wanted time on the networks, they needed to schedule their debates on the weekend.
If you check the GOP debate schedule, you will see that their network debates are also on Saturday nights. But most were during the week because they weren't worried about their viewers having to pay for cable.
hedda_foil
(16,381 posts)If so,it would mean that only diehard supporters will watch, letting Her Majesty coast into South Carolina, Nevada and super Tuesday.
And all of the Republican debates are being televised on basic cable, if not over the air.
pnwmom
(109,039 posts)hedda_foil
(16,381 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)And maybe, just maybe she will turn on Hillary and expose any part she played in the travesty.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)probably a cabinet position.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)I'm in the throes of remodelling, and taking all my business to Menard's new Super Store....so there!
INdemo
(6,994 posts)President should ask her to resign or outright fire her.
ReallyIAmAnOptimist
(357 posts)That was sweet!
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Hillary Clinton should be forced to resign her candidacy .There have been Presidential candidates forced to resign for a hell of a lot less than this.(Gary Hart)
And for Hillary and Bill this might just be the srtaw that broke the camels back.
I cannot imagine the excuses we will hear from the Hillary supporters but Im betting we will hear some doozies.
I think the way this story broke and the headlines that were produced were certainly co-ordinated with the MSM and the DNC/DWS for the sole purpose of discrediting Bernie Sanders and the Sanders campaign and there should be some criminal issues here against DWS and the DNC and even the Clinton campaign.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)Civil torts for contract violations, and then public calumny for being stupid is the best we can hope for.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)when the entire party turned against him, Hart took a nose count and bowed out.
I don't think DWS and the DNC can count that high...they've pissed off half the electorate, if not more. They don't have enough fingers and toes for the job.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Its sad but I think there will be Democrats that will stay home.
Stats show that 14% of Democrats will not vote for Hillary.
Doesn't mean they will vote for a Repuke but rather they will skip this one.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)This will be the gift that keeps on giving.
MADem
(135,425 posts)But theres risk, too: An audit showed Sanders campaign repeatedly accessed sensitive voter information belonging to the Clinton campaign, threatening Sanders attempt to commandeer the moral and ethical high ground in the race.
Unprecedented Punishment
Casting Sanders as the victim, Weaver suggested that it was excessive punishment for what he described as a minor infraction by young people who made misjudgments. ....
According to an NGP VAN audit of their recent data breach obtained by Bloomberg, multiple NGP VAN users associated with Bernie Sanderss campaign downloaded and saved lists based on Clinton campaign data during a brief window in which the firewall between campaigns data was down on Wednesday.
According to Bloomberg,Staffers conducted searches that would be especially advantageous to the campaign, including lists of its likeliest supporters in 10 early voting states, including Iowa and New Hampshire.
Thats a huge deal, and contradicts the Sanders campaigns original response to the incident.
When the breach was first reported and the campaign saw their voter file access suspended, Sanderss campaign manager claimed that no information had been saved, and that Clinton data had only been accessed by one low-level staffer (who was fired on the spot) and that the campaign immediately notified NGP VAN that there had been a breach. That low-level staffer turned out to be Josh Uretsky, the campaigns now-former national data director, who reportedly shared access with three other members of Sanderss campaign, including deputy data director Russell Drapkin. Furthermore, while the Sanders campaign had taken the initiative to contact NGP VAN when a similar breach occurred in October, they were not the ones who alerted the vendor to the breach this time around.
http://americablog.com/2015/12/audit-shows-sanders-campaign-downloaded-saved-clinton-data.html
forest444
(5,902 posts)Like most of us, I remember him from CNN's Crossfire in the late '90s and early 2000s. Definitely one of a dying breed of real journalists on cable news (imagine that).
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)old joke but sorry it never gets old