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Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:26 AM

Anyone else find this "BERNIE SANDERS BROKE INTO THE DNC COMPUTERS!11!11!"

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story interestingly timed? Right before the debate and coming out of the DNC who has been trying to shove HRH down everyone else's throat. And a data breech -- you know, like someone else we know. Hmmm, who else does that? Blaming your opponent for something you've done? It's right on the tip of my tongue. Starts with "R."

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:29 AM

1. Also right after a good day for Bernie

DFA endorsement, CWA endorsement, 2 million donations. Quick, time to kill his streak of good news!

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Response to jfern (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:30 AM

2. It's the Dean Scream all over again.

But this time with WAY different results. People didn't hate Kerry like they do Hillary and seeing as how, like 12 people in the country actually trust her, this is going to blowback on her. Stupid, stupid, DWS!

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Response to jfern (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:37 AM

6. +1

 

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:31 AM

3. Yes it's all a conspiracy

It must be the Masons.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:18 AM

15. Wait until he loses in March, then it will be a grand conspiracy!

And that Democrats are all ignorant fools, who have nose-rings put on them like bulls.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

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Response to RandySF (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:23 AM

18. The Masons? Puh-shaw. Clearly you know nothing

It is... "The RAND Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires..."

You fool! The Masons?! Can't you see it's a massive government conspiracy? Or have they gotten to you too?

'Everything always works its way back to the Simpsons'

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Response to rpannier (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 AM

82. No.

It's Big Telephone.



V.I. Kydor Kropotkin: Are you trying to tell me every phone in the country is tapped?

Don Masters, CEA Agent: That's what's in my head.

V.I. Kydor Kropotkin: Don, this is America, not Russia!

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Response to rpannier (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:14 AM

113. I heard Obama

Was really born in Kenya.
Read it on the internet.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:42 AM

69. It's a known fact that Debbie is working for Hillary.

And that the DNC has been conspiring to hand Clinton the nomination by any means necessary.

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Response to mhatrw (Reply #69)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:59 AM

74. No, it's not known.

It's imagined. Anything that doesn't go Bernie's way is the result of some kind of conspiracy.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:32 AM

4. I personally think

Its time to take off the gloves

The DNC and the Party leaders will do anything they do not want another 2008

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Response to Truprogressive85 (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:36 AM

5. Now, what do you want to bet

that this is, magically, going to be all over the news? Bernie's endorsements the last couple of days, along with 2 million donations to his campaign and not one word from the media. But this? This is has DNC written all over it.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:41 AM

8. Check out NYT's homepage.

It's the only time I've ever seen them run a Bernie headline like that one the front page. And I don't see a single mention of his two endorsements, or his 2 million donations on their site at all. What the fuck.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:44 AM

9. Exactly

DWS and Party elites will do whatever they can to stop Sen.Sanders

This just too convenient!! how long was this known ?



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Response to Truprogressive85 (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:49 AM

10. The Bernie campaign is saying

that it reported lax security on the part of this third-party vendor months ago. And all of a sudden, two days before the third debate, the DNC is shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:55 AM

11. DWS will do anything to protect her dear Hillary

If the DNC knew about months ago they better prepare for the backlash


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Response to Truprogressive85 (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:08 AM

13. Backlash from who?

Who doesn't already hate the DNC? Republicans hate the DNC. Liberals hate the DNC. People who like debates and don't like "we're all going to die, give me money" e-mails hate the DNC. Any politician who'd like to win a state house back for the Democratic Party hates the DNC. I guess corporate donors like the DNC. For everyone else they're an enemy (Republicans) or a necessary but evil parasite (Democrats).

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Response to MisterFred (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:18 AM

114. Hey MisterFred!

Welcome to DU. Great post.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:22 AM

53. And the vendor is saying THEY reported the breach to the DNC.

Four Sanders personnel accessed the data. Only one has been fired or named.

The campaign has refused repeated requests for information.

The optics look awful.


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/sanders-campaign-disciplined-for-breaching-clinton-data/?_r=0

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Response to MADem (Reply #53)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:35 AM

60. Just AWFUL!

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Response to MADem (Reply #53)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:19 AM

84. And Sanders people reported the problem to the vendor months ago and nothing was fixed.

In a statement, Michael Briggs, a spokesman for the Sanders campaign told the Guardian the issue was the result of systemic failures by NGP-VAN. “Sadly, the vendor who runs the DNC’s voter file program continues to make serious errors,” said Briggs. “On more than one occasion, the vendor has dropped the firewall between the data of different Democratic campaigns. Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns. At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor.”


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/democrats-punish-bernie-sanders-campaign-following-clinton-data-breach

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #84)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:23 AM

85. Briggs said/vendor said. Sounds to me like the DNC is doing the right thing in

INVESTIGATING to find out precisely what happened.

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Response to MADem (Reply #85)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:29 AM

88. This level of security is Unix 101 or even lower. How many years has all the Democratic data been

available to anyone that can get to the system? How long have candidates been able to get others data? Sanders group just notified them a few months ago and if is just NOW that it was fixed. How many years? I think someone needs to find out. This company handles the data for just about all the Democratic groups not just the DNC.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #88)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:34 AM

91. Sanders group says...what does DNC say?

The Sanders staff hasn't even revealed who the other three people are who accessed the data.

I agree that someone needs to find out, though.

That's why the DNC is investigating. They should be able to figure out who was poking around, and what they saw, and if they copied anything.

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Response to Truprogressive85 (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:53 AM

28. Wouldn't want that at all.

 

What with one side complaining about coronations, inevitability, and threatening to vote third party or Republican.

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Response to Truprogressive85 (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:13 AM

37. I too slowly reached that conclusion months back

But have to keep waiting on others to reach that conclusion in order to keep them working for Bernie while the news and everything told them Hilary was a shoo-in and everything we said against her would be used by republicans. I am now even questioning whether I will vote for Hilary if she wins. I am for democracy first and democrats second. I am beginning to believe that although we have pushed the people of the democratic party to the left our party is like our national government pretty much deaf to our desires because they have created an opposition so terrible to imagine for many the republican servants of the oligarchy. But I and many citizens do not see the essential differences between the democrats on important matters. Progressives, like African Americans and more recently Hispanics, and Asians are the mainstays of the democratic party and while welcomed as voters and workers but are having their views shut out in favor of the rich oligarchy and their control of our government.
So now I do know that an important step in putting the reins of this country in the hands of the people is to elect Bernie President, but if he does not get the nomination, I will have a much more difficult scenario and that is will I switch to green party which has almost identical values as Bernie or stay with Hilary and watch her conspire with Third Way with her owners and drive our party back to being donor controlled.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:39 AM

7. Since I read Mark Penn is behind the scenes screwing with polling, nothing surprises me.

 

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:36 AM

44. It's the pollster's fault!!!!1111!!!!!!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:03 AM

12. BENGHAZI!!!#!1!1

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:14 AM

14. I wish the Sanders campaign had raised a big public stink

 

when they learned about it months ago. Sounds like they trusted the vendor and the DNC to take care of it. It's odd that the DNC did not make sure the software vendor got it fixed back then. This situation has been out there for a long time.

I hope Bernie's staff didn't fall into a trap. I would not trust anyone connected with HRC.

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Response to senz (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:23 AM

17. Why would they?

They were busy looking into other people's stuff.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:45 AM

22. You know damn good and well that they reported it.

 

Months ago. And the vendor assured them that it would be taken care of.

This is a responsible campaign.

But you're trying to make as much mischief out of it as you can. You're definitely coming into view.

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Response to senz (Reply #22)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:57 AM

29. The "vendor" ... we need to know who runs that company. Bet they're connected to HRH. n/t

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Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:22 AM

54. Illuminati did it!!!!!!!'

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Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:36 AM

62. It's a very interesting list from what I've read. nt



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Response to nc4bo (Reply #62)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:02 AM

75. Care to share?

Or you just going to put that out there...

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #75)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:58 AM

99. Vendor's CEO was Clinton 2008 CTO

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Response to senz (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:36 AM

20. This is going to backfire and remind people of her private server security issues.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:28 AM

32. removing acess to the democratic data base for Bernie people

will be seen at local democratic party levels as unwarranted and a vicious betrayal of impartiality. It will energize more people to work against a party establishment beholden to the big money donors.

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Response to daybranch (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:30 PM

108. Waiting for the OUTRAGE of a "non-Democrat" gaining access to it at all....

 

A "Socialist" got access to secrets!!!

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:00 AM

34. This. It is not good for Hillary either. What is the DNC doing? Trying to elect a RPug?

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Response to newthinking (Reply #34)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:31 PM

109. For them? It's "Hillary or Bust".

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:44 AM

65. No one hacked her shit. I don't think so.

The longer his campaign tries to hide the other people who accessed the data, the more people think this is a big deal.

They are refusing to respond to press inquiries. Make of that what you will.

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Response to MADem (Reply #65)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:05 AM

76. Yeah

A good waste of time is to have the campaign try to prove a negative.

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Response to MADem (Reply #65)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:33 PM

111. It's a fake scandal. The Hillary campaign is used to them.

 

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Response to senz (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:23 AM

31. when ever Bernie supporters raise a point stating directly differences in policy

they are accused of working against the democratic party by giving republicans talking points that could be used later by republicans. Yet we realize that for every point we would make about Hilary's positions, we could make a stronger case for that point against republicans. Right now there is a fight for control of the party and its direction. With Obama we got a centrist who prevented total disaster for the people but certainly has not changed the status quo to increase the power of the people to any great degree. Yes we have more jobs and inflation is low, but we cannot actually see a future that is better than would have occurred if we had not let the oligarchy and their banks and corporations harm our people by NAFTA, CAFTA destroy our standard of living by eliminating good paying factory jobs , creating downward pressures on wages overall, and harming the ability of Unions to organize or maintain membership. We look ahead and see the oligarchy continue to sell climate denial and we know their investments in fossil fuel must be manged so they never lose but pass on the costs to the people even as they continue to reap profits. We can and do care about these and many other things and recognize that underlying all this continuance of poor policy is the oligarchy and we know that the oligarchy has succeeded i putting up substantial roadblocks to their removal- such as Gerrymandering many states, restrictions of voter rights, and removing restrictions on buying elections through Citizens United. This occurred during the Obama Presidency and we have seen little action from the justice department to stop it. So when we see little, no or Johnny Come Lately opposition to policies we deplore, we find valid differences to point out and conclusions we must draw. Yet we must not do this as it might harm the inevitable nominee. It is clear that the DNC, DWS, and DCC are all trying to stifle debate both at national and local levels. It is also clear the republican debates are better timed for viewers. And our guy runs a clean campaign.
So after having used VANN data myself, I question even why proprietary data is on Vann. As far as Hilary's strategy goes, it does not apply to Bernie. No campaign before has use Bernie's strategy and he is not interested in dirty tricks. So Hilary after her evolution on gun control fro essentially the position she held in 2008 which were if anything more pro-gun than Bernie's then and now to her overzealous position hoping to hit a hot button to appeal to one issue voters zealous gun control voters is finding her history on that issues is not attracting many new supporters, now gets this gift from the DNC of shutting Bernie out entirely off the democrat data base. But it will not really help Hilary, because we Bernie fans do not depend on precision targetting to gain supporters or get them to the polls. We believe in what we say and we believe oiur message is saleable to most people and do not really need Vann to do our canvassing and work.

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Response to senz (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:34 AM

43. Instead of raising a stink, they continued to mine the data.

Sanders' campaign illegally accessed somebody else's data. But for some reason this is somebody else's fault?

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:22 AM

16. If there is a conspiracy

It's the FOUR user accounts that were used to probe the Clinton campaign data.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:05 AM

35. Right. You obviously don't work in IT

4 user accounts is easily:

Person 1: Hey, look what just came up on my search? What is up?

Person 2, 3, 4. Is the system broken (running a search).

That will show 4 people having done a search.

What I am wondering is how this even happened. More security flags are going off about the vendor. There are so many ways this should never have been possible.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:34 AM

19. I really expect to have her come out like she caught Bernie peeping in her bedroom window.

 

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:42 AM

21. DWS is obvious in her shenanigans: she wants Sanders to lose no matter what. eom

 

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:50 AM

25. Why didn't Sanders simply allow his National Data Director to resign?

If he did nothing wrong, why put a firing on his record?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:53 AM

70. So the firing versus resigning discussion is supposed to take the attention away from DWS

 

and her biased shenanigans? Nice try, but I don't believe the issue is a lexical one.

The issue is the underhanded tactics of the coronation committee.

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #70)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:10 AM

78. This has nothing to do with DWS. It has to do with a top staffer of Bernie's

getting fired because he decided, in his own words, to "create a record" of the info he could access of HRC's.

Whether you believe his story or not has nothing to do with DWS.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #78)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:12 AM

80. It's not like she overreacted to impede Sanders' campiagn six weeks before the Iowa caucus?

 

The ostriches have called: when you are done sticking your head in the sand, could they have it back, please?

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #80)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:34 AM

92. Why is it an overreaction to ask for proof that they have no HRC files

given that Josh Uretsky's statement is that he dug into the system in order to "create a record" of the information he could improperly access?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251909206

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #92)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:36 AM

93. You can't prove a negative, silly.

 

The onus of proof is on the accuser, not on the accused.

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #93)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:40 AM

96. You're right -- they are asking only for assurances. So even more so -- why is it objectionable

that the DNC wants an explanation and assurances that the Sanders campaign hasn't retained this proprietary info before they will once again give Sanders access to the database?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #96)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:44 AM

98. The breach was reported weeks ago - by Sanders - and the denying of access happens now?

 

At a crucial time, weeks before the Iowa caucus?

Why no similar suspension for the Clinton campaign, when the third party contractor has obvious ties to them?

Clinton's campaign could just as easily have accessed sensitive information from the Sanders campaign? Why no demands of assurances from them, when they FAILED to report the potential breach?

See how unreasonable such demands are?

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:49 AM

23. Do you have a link to a story about Hillary breaching someone else's data?

I missed that somehow.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:49 AM

24. Of course you did.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:51 AM

26. Because no one's even accused her of breaching anyone's data,

much less provided evidence for it.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:51 AM

27. Isn't a firewall kind of like encryption? I thought encryption was supposed to be bad, anyway.

I mean, if they had nothing to hide, why were they trying to hide it, amirite?

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:31 AM

40. A firewall is, like, made of fire, so don't wipe it with a cloth. n/t

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:07 AM

30. Sanders camp already fired it Data Director. Now you blame the Republicans?

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Response to riversedge (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:32 AM

41. They've already blamed Hillary and the DNC.

It can't be Bernie's fault!!!!

And..... Gays!!!!!



I haven't been so entertained in days.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #41)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:19 AM

51. umm.. I had

not seen the --the gays--blame yet. whow

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:30 AM

33. Are we forgetting

that Bernie has risen in spite of all these types of MSM smears. This is just one in a series that has no legs and tries to offset an FBI investigation.

Don't forget, Hills loves Rahm and voters lists are not national security.

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Response to aspirant (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:12 AM

36. Not to mention......

If this were to get out of hand it doesn't really help Hillary in multiple ways. Which is what is weird. Would they rather have a Republican win then lose out to Bernie?

If this escalates the Republicans and the press will be all over Hillary that she can't keep our data and national secrets safe.

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Response to newthinking (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:28 AM

38. "Would they rather have a Republican win then lose out to Bernie? "

 

Sure seems that way.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:44 PM

107. Her donors certainly would!

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:44 PM

112. maybe they'll endorse Trump!

after blaming everything from the Lebanon War to school shootings on NADER!!!! that's actually par for the course

what they accuse the left wing of doing is what they PLAN on doing--remember all the squealing on DU over the "purity purge" when we got the House in 2006, then they rodent-romanced Cegelis, Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, Kucinich, Buono, Lutrin, Rev. Manuel Sykes, Weiland, now Wendy Davis, Grimes

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Response to aspirant (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:33 AM

42. Bernie fired somebody, so it would appear to be more than a smear.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #42)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:09 AM

68. Everyone American fired must "appear" beyond the smear threshold, Gotcha.

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Response to aspirant (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:29 PM

100. Bernie is losing ground to MOM

per today's poll numbers.

He is heading back to 25%

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #100)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:05 PM

104. Prove it

Get names and #'s of all respondents from any pollster so we can contact them directly and verify they participated and weren't counted multiple times

Chose any poll, I'll be waiting

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:30 AM

39. I see a lot of deflection from the fact that Sanders campaign got caught doing something illegal.

The deflection and excuses are entertaining. I'm enjoying the show.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #39)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:10 AM

45. It's not something illegal

They were authorized and authenticated users in the system.

The access controls of the system were apparently turned off by the DNC's vendor while they were doing an update. They don't know how to maintain a secure system and should be fired.

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Response to Paulie (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:13 AM

46. It's the DNC's fault!!!!!!!111111

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Response to yardwork (Reply #46)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:16 AM

47. Quite so.

When Target was hacked because they didn't manage their vendor remote access and neglected to segment their POS systems, anyone blaming the HVAC vendor? Anyone know the name of the HVAC vendor?

Stop with the illegal crapola. That's all.

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Response to Paulie (Reply #47)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:17 AM

49. Wow.

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:19 AM

50. Hi Sea. Long time no see.

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Response to Paulie (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:21 AM

52. For real officer. It is not my fault. They left the house unlocked. I am not to blame, waling in

 

and stealing the stuf

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #52)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:25 AM

55. Anyway, look over there! Shiny!!!!

Tears of laughter.

How ya doing, Sea? Is this the funniest thing in ages or what?



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Response to yardwork (Reply #55)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:37 AM

63. It is a hoot. For so many reasons I am not getting into.

 

It is good seeing you, too. Always. Now, I am off, and I will not see all that develops today.

YOU... have a good day.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #63)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:51 AM

66. I'm off too! Have a great day!

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #52)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:26 AM

56. That's not what happened

You go to google and search for XYZ. And it returns the alphabet. In LBN there are more details on the sanders campaign were the ones who reported this. And that it's happened before where all the campaigns were able to see each other.

Bad guys don't then go to the police with the loot in hand saying they left the door open.

Honestly, I'm waiting for a real accounting to come out. Problem will be the believability of the audit.

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Response to Paulie (Reply #56)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:30 AM

58. It would have not even been on my radar, but for the Sanders people blaming everyone but....

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #58)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:32 AM

59. At least a head rolled

They didn't waste time.

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Response to Paulie (Reply #59)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:35 AM

61. One out of four, that I am reading.

 

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:16 AM

48. I do not have a problem saying, Meh... to the fired employee. I do have issue blaming everyone but

 

the responsible parties and vilifying Clinton for a Sanders staffer's wrong.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:28 AM

57. lol, "interestingly timed"

The last refuge of the Sanders diehards; tinfoil hat conspiracies.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:53 AM

67. Any nefarious activity can be explained away if you try hard enough.

 

Sanders supporters have blamed every negative aspect of his career on someone else. His slogan should be "Pass The Buck."

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:55 AM

71. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

 


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Response to WillyT (Reply #71)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:56 AM

72. Thank you, sweetie pie!







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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #72)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:58 AM

73. Anytime...

 






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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:08 AM

77. Looks like Bernie got caught pulling a "Watergate"! This is not going away...

there were 4 people involved and one was a key person ordering the others to access the information. Democrats don't like people stealing their information. Especially someone posing as a Democrat.

There is going to be an investigation by the DNC.

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Response to Walk away (Reply #77)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:11 AM

79. Oh, jezus,

is "Watergate" the operative word today? LOL! <flush>

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #79)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 AM

81. Flush all you want. This isn't going away in a day...

And Bernie blaming the DNC and Hillary for his campaigns theft isn't going to work with anyone but the die hard Sander's supporters that live in the corners of the internet.

Real people know that the Bernie campaign has done something crooked. Now we need to see all of their servers in order to determine how much information the stole.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 AM

83. Yes, it's obviously a conspiracy. n/t

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:26 AM

86. Yep that Bernie staffer who got fired

timed it just right

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:28 AM

87. This just doesn't smell right.

DWS=DNC. The DNC has a "software glitch", then claims it's all an accident.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 AM

89. Was the data stored in cardboard boxes in his garage? What about the pole dancer?

 

Will Hillary demand more surveillance powers for the NSA?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #89)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:37 AM

94. You are one of my favorite DUers.

Just wanted you to know that. And Tom Waits for a sig line too.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #94)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:41 AM

97. I'm honored.

 

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 AM

90. Anything to time a good dump...

That's what I asked the Bernie Group before going to bed and seeing this WaPo "breaking" e-mail...

Smelled like 3 day old fish wrap at that fresh hour.... continues to stink now.

All the right people here who are so regularly pissed off at Sanders, in spite of the media black out, didn't waste any time doing their level best to pile on...

R-R-R-Rovian?

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:38 AM

95. Just one more in a series of dirty deeds the oligarch Dem establishment is using

as desperate attempts to stop Bernie and crush the threat of real democracy in America.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:32 PM

101. Oldest trick in the book

Good news is no one buys it. We know Bernie is the honest one. Most people cannot say that for the others.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:59 PM

102. DWS Will Now

Present the Oval Office to the GOP.
I'm done.
I am writing in Bernies name-no matter what in the GE.
All other Corporate/GOP Wing of the Dem Party will get a Vote of No Confidence. State And Federal

DWS lost massive seats in the House and she lost the Senate. All she has left to hand over is the Oval.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:05 PM

103. The correct thing for the DNC to do

is have their IT people fix the security hole, have any campaign staffers that violated regs fired, then immediately restore access.

Of course, as head of the DNC, which is fair and impartial, DWS is going to immediately take care of this... Yeah, she'll get right on it.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:35 PM

105. Right after Hillary got caught lying about her donors too.

 

Anything to keep actual, you know, issues out of the public's mind!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:39 PM

106. So Bernies own guy does this

 

and somehow its a conspiracy concocted by Hillary/DNC/DWS?

Is that what you are trying to say???

Wow!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:32 PM

110. Yup

Rove written all over it.

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