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Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:26 AM Dec 2015

Anyone else find this "BERNIE SANDERS BROKE INTO THE DNC COMPUTERS!11!11!"

Last edited Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:38 AM - Edit history (1)

story interestingly timed? Right before the debate and coming out of the DNC who has been trying to shove HRH down everyone else's throat. And a data breech -- you know, like someone else we know. Hmmm, who else does that? Blaming your opponent for something you've done? It's right on the tip of my tongue. Starts with "R."

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Anyone else find this "BERNIE SANDERS BROKE INTO THE DNC COMPUTERS!11!11!" (Original Post) Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 OP
Also right after a good day for Bernie jfern Dec 2015 #1
It's the Dean Scream all over again. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #2
+1 Leftyforever Dec 2015 #6
Yes it's all a conspiracy RandySF Dec 2015 #3
Wait until he loses in March, then it will be a grand conspiracy! ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #15
The Masons? Puh-shaw. Clearly you know nothing rpannier Dec 2015 #18
No. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #82
I heard Obama SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #113
It's a known fact that Debbie is working for Hillary. mhatrw Dec 2015 #69
No, it's not known. RandySF Dec 2015 #74
I personally think Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #4
Now, what do you want to bet Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #5
Check out NYT's homepage. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #8
Exactly Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #9
The Bernie campaign is saying Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #10
DWS will do anything to protect her dear Hillary Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #11
Backlash from who? MisterFred Dec 2015 #13
Hey MisterFred! Matariki Dec 2015 #114
And the vendor is saying THEY reported the breach to the DNC. MADem Dec 2015 #53
Just AWFUL! Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #60
And Sanders people reported the problem to the vendor months ago and nothing was fixed. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #84
Briggs said/vendor said. Sounds to me like the DNC is doing the right thing in MADem Dec 2015 #85
This level of security is Unix 101 or even lower. How many years has all the Democratic data been LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #88
Sanders group says...what does DNC say? MADem Dec 2015 #91
Wouldn't want that at all. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #28
I too slowly reached that conclusion months back daybranch Dec 2015 #37
Since I read Mark Penn is behind the scenes screwing with polling, nothing surprises me. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #7
It's the pollster's fault!!!!1111!!!!!! yardwork Dec 2015 #44
BENGHAZI!!!#!1!1 SunSeeker Dec 2015 #12
I wish the Sanders campaign had raised a big public stink senz Dec 2015 #14
Why would they? RandySF Dec 2015 #17
You know damn good and well that they reported it. senz Dec 2015 #22
The "vendor" ... we need to know who runs that company. Bet they're connected to HRH. n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #29
Illuminati did it!!!!!!!' yardwork Dec 2015 #54
It's a very interesting list from what I've read. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #62
Care to share? Agschmid Dec 2015 #75
Vendor's CEO was Clinton 2008 CTO jeff47 Dec 2015 #99
This is going to backfire and remind people of her private server security issues. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #20
removing acess to the democratic data base for Bernie people daybranch Dec 2015 #32
Waiting for the OUTRAGE of a "non-Democrat" gaining access to it at all.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #108
This. It is not good for Hillary either. What is the DNC doing? Trying to elect a RPug? newthinking Dec 2015 #34
For them? It's "Hillary or Bust". Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #109
No one hacked her shit. I don't think so. MADem Dec 2015 #65
Yeah kenfrequed Dec 2015 #76
It's a fake scandal. The Hillary campaign is used to them. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #111
when ever Bernie supporters raise a point stating directly differences in policy daybranch Dec 2015 #31
Instead of raising a stink, they continued to mine the data. yardwork Dec 2015 #43
If there is a conspiracy RandySF Dec 2015 #16
Right. You obviously don't work in IT newthinking Dec 2015 #35
I really expect to have her come out like she caught Bernie peeping in her bedroom window. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #19
DWS is obvious in her shenanigans: she wants Sanders to lose no matter what. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #21
Why didn't Sanders simply allow his National Data Director to resign? pnwmom Dec 2015 #25
So the firing versus resigning discussion is supposed to take the attention away from DWS Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #70
This has nothing to do with DWS. It has to do with a top staffer of Bernie's pnwmom Dec 2015 #78
It's not like she overreacted to impede Sanders' campiagn six weeks before the Iowa caucus? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #80
Why is it an overreaction to ask for proof that they have no HRC files pnwmom Dec 2015 #92
You can't prove a negative, silly. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #93
You're right -- they are asking only for assurances. So even more so -- why is it objectionable pnwmom Dec 2015 #96
The breach was reported weeks ago - by Sanders - and the denying of access happens now? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #98
Do you have a link to a story about Hillary breaching someone else's data? pnwmom Dec 2015 #23
Of course you did. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #24
Because no one's even accused her of breaching anyone's data, pnwmom Dec 2015 #26
Isn't a firewall kind of like encryption? I thought encryption was supposed to be bad, anyway. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #27
A firewall is, like, made of fire, so don't wipe it with a cloth. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #40
Sanders camp already fired it Data Director. Now you blame the Republicans? riversedge Dec 2015 #30
They've already blamed Hillary and the DNC. yardwork Dec 2015 #41
umm.. I had riversedge Dec 2015 #51
Are we forgetting aspirant Dec 2015 #33
Not to mention...... newthinking Dec 2015 #36
"Would they rather have a Republican win then lose out to Bernie? " Scuba Dec 2015 #38
Her donors certainly would! arcane1 Dec 2015 #107
maybe they'll endorse Trump! MisterP Dec 2015 #112
Bernie fired somebody, so it would appear to be more than a smear. yardwork Dec 2015 #42
Everyone American fired must "appear" beyond the smear threshold, Gotcha. aspirant Dec 2015 #68
Bernie is losing ground to MOM upaloopa Dec 2015 #100
Prove it aspirant Dec 2015 #104
I see a lot of deflection from the fact that Sanders campaign got caught doing something illegal. yardwork Dec 2015 #39
It's not something illegal Paulie Dec 2015 #45
It's the DNC's fault!!!!!!!111111 yardwork Dec 2015 #46
Quite so. Paulie Dec 2015 #47
Wow. seabeyond Dec 2015 #49
Hi Sea. Long time no see. Paulie Dec 2015 #50
For real officer. It is not my fault. They left the house unlocked. I am not to blame, waling in seabeyond Dec 2015 #52
Anyway, look over there! Shiny!!!! yardwork Dec 2015 #55
It is a hoot. For so many reasons I am not getting into. seabeyond Dec 2015 #63
I'm off too! Have a great day! yardwork Dec 2015 #66
That's not what happened Paulie Dec 2015 #56
It would have not even been on my radar, but for the Sanders people blaming everyone but.... seabeyond Dec 2015 #58
At least a head rolled Paulie Dec 2015 #59
One out of four, that I am reading. seabeyond Dec 2015 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #64
I do not have a problem saying, Meh... to the fired employee. I do have issue blaming everyone but seabeyond Dec 2015 #48
lol, "interestingly timed" Tarc Dec 2015 #57
Any nefarious activity can be explained away if you try hard enough. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #67
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #71
Thank you, sweetie pie! Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #72
Anytime... WillyT Dec 2015 #73
Looks like Bernie got caught pulling a "Watergate"! This is not going away... Walk away Dec 2015 #77
Oh, jezus, Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #79
Flush all you want. This isn't going away in a day... Walk away Dec 2015 #81
Yes, it's obviously a conspiracy. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2015 #83
Yep that Bernie staffer who got fired upaloopa Dec 2015 #86
This just doesn't smell right. panader0 Dec 2015 #87
Was the data stored in cardboard boxes in his garage? What about the pole dancer? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #89
You are one of my favorite DUers. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #94
I'm honored. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #97
Anything to time a good dump... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #90
Just one more in a series of dirty deeds the oligarch Dem establishment is using Zorra Dec 2015 #95
Oldest trick in the book NowSam Dec 2015 #101
DWS Will Now fredamae Dec 2015 #102
The correct thing for the DNC to do backscatter712 Dec 2015 #103
Right after Hillary got caught lying about her donors too. arcane1 Dec 2015 #105
So Bernies own guy does this workinclasszero Dec 2015 #106
Yup madokie Dec 2015 #110

jfern

(5,204 posts)
1. Also right after a good day for Bernie
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:29 AM
Dec 2015

DFA endorsement, CWA endorsement, 2 million donations. Quick, time to kill his streak of good news!

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
2. It's the Dean Scream all over again.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:30 AM
Dec 2015

But this time with WAY different results. People didn't hate Kerry like they do Hillary and seeing as how, like 12 people in the country actually trust her, this is going to blowback on her. Stupid, stupid, DWS!

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
15. Wait until he loses in March, then it will be a grand conspiracy!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:18 AM
Dec 2015

And that Democrats are all ignorant fools, who have nose-rings put on them like bulls.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

rpannier

(24,397 posts)
18. The Masons? Puh-shaw. Clearly you know nothing
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:23 AM
Dec 2015

It is... "The RAND Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires..."

You fool! The Masons?! Can't you see it's a massive government conspiracy? Or have they gotten to you too?

'Everything always works its way back to the Simpsons'

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
82. No.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 AM
Dec 2015

It's Big Telephone.



V.I. Kydor Kropotkin: Are you trying to tell me every phone in the country is tapped?

Don Masters, CEA Agent: That's what's in my head.

V.I. Kydor Kropotkin: Don, this is America, not Russia!

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
69. It's a known fact that Debbie is working for Hillary.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:42 AM
Dec 2015

And that the DNC has been conspiring to hand Clinton the nomination by any means necessary.

RandySF

(61,530 posts)
74. No, it's not known.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015

It's imagined. Anything that doesn't go Bernie's way is the result of some kind of conspiracy.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
4. I personally think
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:32 AM
Dec 2015

Its time to take off the gloves

The DNC and the Party leaders will do anything they do not want another 2008

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
5. Now, what do you want to bet
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:36 AM
Dec 2015

that this is, magically, going to be all over the news? Bernie's endorsements the last couple of days, along with 2 million donations to his campaign and not one word from the media. But this? This is has DNC written all over it.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
8. Check out NYT's homepage.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:41 AM
Dec 2015

It's the only time I've ever seen them run a Bernie headline like that one the front page. And I don't see a single mention of his two endorsements, or his 2 million donations on their site at all. What the fuck.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
9. Exactly
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:44 AM
Dec 2015

DWS and Party elites will do whatever they can to stop Sen.Sanders

This just too convenient!! how long was this known ?



Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
10. The Bernie campaign is saying
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:49 AM
Dec 2015

that it reported lax security on the part of this third-party vendor months ago. And all of a sudden, two days before the third debate, the DNC is shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
11. DWS will do anything to protect her dear Hillary
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:55 AM
Dec 2015

If the DNC knew about months ago they better prepare for the backlash


MisterFred

(525 posts)
13. Backlash from who?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:08 AM
Dec 2015

Who doesn't already hate the DNC? Republicans hate the DNC. Liberals hate the DNC. People who like debates and don't like "we're all going to die, give me money" e-mails hate the DNC. Any politician who'd like to win a state house back for the Democratic Party hates the DNC. I guess corporate donors like the DNC. For everyone else they're an enemy (Republicans) or a necessary but evil parasite (Democrats).

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. And the vendor is saying THEY reported the breach to the DNC.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:22 AM
Dec 2015

Four Sanders personnel accessed the data. Only one has been fired or named.

The campaign has refused repeated requests for information.

The optics look awful.


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/sanders-campaign-disciplined-for-breaching-clinton-data/?_r=0

LiberalArkie

(15,766 posts)
84. And Sanders people reported the problem to the vendor months ago and nothing was fixed.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:19 AM
Dec 2015

In a statement, Michael Briggs, a spokesman for the Sanders campaign told the Guardian the issue was the result of systemic failures by NGP-VAN. “Sadly, the vendor who runs the DNC’s voter file program continues to make serious errors,” said Briggs. “On more than one occasion, the vendor has dropped the firewall between the data of different Democratic campaigns. Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns. At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor.”


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/democrats-punish-bernie-sanders-campaign-following-clinton-data-breach

MADem

(135,425 posts)
85. Briggs said/vendor said. Sounds to me like the DNC is doing the right thing in
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:23 AM
Dec 2015

INVESTIGATING to find out precisely what happened.

LiberalArkie

(15,766 posts)
88. This level of security is Unix 101 or even lower. How many years has all the Democratic data been
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:29 AM
Dec 2015

available to anyone that can get to the system? How long have candidates been able to get others data? Sanders group just notified them a few months ago and if is just NOW that it was fixed. How many years? I think someone needs to find out. This company handles the data for just about all the Democratic groups not just the DNC.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
91. Sanders group says...what does DNC say?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

The Sanders staff hasn't even revealed who the other three people are who accessed the data.

I agree that someone needs to find out, though.

That's why the DNC is investigating. They should be able to figure out who was poking around, and what they saw, and if they copied anything.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
28. Wouldn't want that at all.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:53 AM
Dec 2015

What with one side complaining about coronations, inevitability, and threatening to vote third party or Republican.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
37. I too slowly reached that conclusion months back
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:13 AM
Dec 2015

But have to keep waiting on others to reach that conclusion in order to keep them working for Bernie while the news and everything told them Hilary was a shoo-in and everything we said against her would be used by republicans. I am now even questioning whether I will vote for Hilary if she wins. I am for democracy first and democrats second. I am beginning to believe that although we have pushed the people of the democratic party to the left our party is like our national government pretty much deaf to our desires because they have created an opposition so terrible to imagine for many the republican servants of the oligarchy. But I and many citizens do not see the essential differences between the democrats on important matters. Progressives, like African Americans and more recently Hispanics, and Asians are the mainstays of the democratic party and while welcomed as voters and workers but are having their views shut out in favor of the rich oligarchy and their control of our government.
So now I do know that an important step in putting the reins of this country in the hands of the people is to elect Bernie President, but if he does not get the nomination, I will have a much more difficult scenario and that is will I switch to green party which has almost identical values as Bernie or stay with Hilary and watch her conspire with Third Way with her owners and drive our party back to being donor controlled.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
14. I wish the Sanders campaign had raised a big public stink
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:14 AM
Dec 2015

when they learned about it months ago. Sounds like they trusted the vendor and the DNC to take care of it. It's odd that the DNC did not make sure the software vendor got it fixed back then. This situation has been out there for a long time.

I hope Bernie's staff didn't fall into a trap. I would not trust anyone connected with HRC.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. You know damn good and well that they reported it.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:45 AM
Dec 2015

Months ago. And the vendor assured them that it would be taken care of.

This is a responsible campaign.

But you're trying to make as much mischief out of it as you can. You're definitely coming into view.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
32. removing acess to the democratic data base for Bernie people
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:28 AM
Dec 2015

will be seen at local democratic party levels as unwarranted and a vicious betrayal of impartiality. It will energize more people to work against a party establishment beholden to the big money donors.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
108. Waiting for the OUTRAGE of a "non-Democrat" gaining access to it at all....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:30 PM
Dec 2015

A "Socialist" got access to secrets!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
65. No one hacked her shit. I don't think so.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:44 AM
Dec 2015

The longer his campaign tries to hide the other people who accessed the data, the more people think this is a big deal.

They are refusing to respond to press inquiries. Make of that what you will.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
31. when ever Bernie supporters raise a point stating directly differences in policy
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:23 AM
Dec 2015

they are accused of working against the democratic party by giving republicans talking points that could be used later by republicans. Yet we realize that for every point we would make about Hilary's positions, we could make a stronger case for that point against republicans. Right now there is a fight for control of the party and its direction. With Obama we got a centrist who prevented total disaster for the people but certainly has not changed the status quo to increase the power of the people to any great degree. Yes we have more jobs and inflation is low, but we cannot actually see a future that is better than would have occurred if we had not let the oligarchy and their banks and corporations harm our people by NAFTA, CAFTA destroy our standard of living by eliminating good paying factory jobs , creating downward pressures on wages overall, and harming the ability of Unions to organize or maintain membership. We look ahead and see the oligarchy continue to sell climate denial and we know their investments in fossil fuel must be manged so they never lose but pass on the costs to the people even as they continue to reap profits. We can and do care about these and many other things and recognize that underlying all this continuance of poor policy is the oligarchy and we know that the oligarchy has succeeded i putting up substantial roadblocks to their removal- such as Gerrymandering many states, restrictions of voter rights, and removing restrictions on buying elections through Citizens United. This occurred during the Obama Presidency and we have seen little action from the justice department to stop it. So when we see little, no or Johnny Come Lately opposition to policies we deplore, we find valid differences to point out and conclusions we must draw. Yet we must not do this as it might harm the inevitable nominee. It is clear that the DNC, DWS, and DCC are all trying to stifle debate both at national and local levels. It is also clear the republican debates are better timed for viewers. And our guy runs a clean campaign.
So after having used VANN data myself, I question even why proprietary data is on Vann. As far as Hilary's strategy goes, it does not apply to Bernie. No campaign before has use Bernie's strategy and he is not interested in dirty tricks. So Hilary after her evolution on gun control fro essentially the position she held in 2008 which were if anything more pro-gun than Bernie's then and now to her overzealous position hoping to hit a hot button to appeal to one issue voters zealous gun control voters is finding her history on that issues is not attracting many new supporters, now gets this gift from the DNC of shutting Bernie out entirely off the democrat data base. But it will not really help Hilary, because we Bernie fans do not depend on precision targetting to gain supporters or get them to the polls. We believe in what we say and we believe oiur message is saleable to most people and do not really need Vann to do our canvassing and work.

yardwork

(62,044 posts)
43. Instead of raising a stink, they continued to mine the data.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:34 AM
Dec 2015

Sanders' campaign illegally accessed somebody else's data. But for some reason this is somebody else's fault?

RandySF

(61,530 posts)
16. If there is a conspiracy
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:22 AM
Dec 2015

It's the FOUR user accounts that were used to probe the Clinton campaign data.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
35. Right. You obviously don't work in IT
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:05 AM
Dec 2015

4 user accounts is easily:

Person 1: Hey, look what just came up on my search? What is up?

Person 2, 3, 4. Is the system broken (running a search).

That will show 4 people having done a search.

What I am wondering is how this even happened. More security flags are going off about the vendor. There are so many ways this should never have been possible.

pnwmom

(109,065 posts)
25. Why didn't Sanders simply allow his National Data Director to resign?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:50 AM
Dec 2015

If he did nothing wrong, why put a firing on his record?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
70. So the firing versus resigning discussion is supposed to take the attention away from DWS
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:53 AM
Dec 2015

and her biased shenanigans? Nice try, but I don't believe the issue is a lexical one.

The issue is the underhanded tactics of the coronation committee.

pnwmom

(109,065 posts)
78. This has nothing to do with DWS. It has to do with a top staffer of Bernie's
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:10 AM
Dec 2015

getting fired because he decided, in his own words, to "create a record" of the info he could access of HRC's.

Whether you believe his story or not has nothing to do with DWS.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
80. It's not like she overreacted to impede Sanders' campiagn six weeks before the Iowa caucus?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:12 AM
Dec 2015

The ostriches have called: when you are done sticking your head in the sand, could they have it back, please?

pnwmom

(109,065 posts)
92. Why is it an overreaction to ask for proof that they have no HRC files
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

given that Josh Uretsky's statement is that he dug into the system in order to "create a record" of the information he could improperly access?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251909206

pnwmom

(109,065 posts)
96. You're right -- they are asking only for assurances. So even more so -- why is it objectionable
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:40 AM
Dec 2015

that the DNC wants an explanation and assurances that the Sanders campaign hasn't retained this proprietary info before they will once again give Sanders access to the database?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
98. The breach was reported weeks ago - by Sanders - and the denying of access happens now?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:44 AM
Dec 2015

At a crucial time, weeks before the Iowa caucus?

Why no similar suspension for the Clinton campaign, when the third party contractor has obvious ties to them?

Clinton's campaign could just as easily have accessed sensitive information from the Sanders campaign? Why no demands of assurances from them, when they FAILED to report the potential breach?

See how unreasonable such demands are?

pnwmom

(109,065 posts)
26. Because no one's even accused her of breaching anyone's data,
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:51 AM
Dec 2015

much less provided evidence for it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. Isn't a firewall kind of like encryption? I thought encryption was supposed to be bad, anyway.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:51 AM
Dec 2015

I mean, if they had nothing to hide, why were they trying to hide it, amirite?

yardwork

(62,044 posts)
41. They've already blamed Hillary and the DNC.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:32 AM
Dec 2015

It can't be Bernie's fault!!!!

And..... Gays!!!!!



I haven't been so entertained in days.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
33. Are we forgetting
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:30 AM
Dec 2015

that Bernie has risen in spite of all these types of MSM smears. This is just one in a series that has no legs and tries to offset an FBI investigation.

Don't forget, Hills loves Rahm and voters lists are not national security.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
36. Not to mention......
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:12 AM
Dec 2015

If this were to get out of hand it doesn't really help Hillary in multiple ways. Which is what is weird. Would they rather have a Republican win then lose out to Bernie?

If this escalates the Republicans and the press will be all over Hillary that she can't keep our data and national secrets safe.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
112. maybe they'll endorse Trump!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

after blaming everything from the Lebanon War to school shootings on NADER!!!! that's actually par for the course

what they accuse the left wing of doing is what they PLAN on doing--remember all the squealing on DU over the "purity purge" when we got the House in 2006, then they rodent-romanced Cegelis, Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, Kucinich, Buono, Lutrin, Rev. Manuel Sykes, Weiland, now Wendy Davis, Grimes

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
104. Prove it
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:05 PM
Dec 2015

Get names and #'s of all respondents from any pollster so we can contact them directly and verify they participated and weren't counted multiple times

Chose any poll, I'll be waiting

yardwork

(62,044 posts)
39. I see a lot of deflection from the fact that Sanders campaign got caught doing something illegal.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:30 AM
Dec 2015

The deflection and excuses are entertaining. I'm enjoying the show.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
45. It's not something illegal
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:10 AM
Dec 2015

They were authorized and authenticated users in the system.

The access controls of the system were apparently turned off by the DNC's vendor while they were doing an update. They don't know how to maintain a secure system and should be fired.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
47. Quite so.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:16 AM
Dec 2015

When Target was hacked because they didn't manage their vendor remote access and neglected to segment their POS systems, anyone blaming the HVAC vendor? Anyone know the name of the HVAC vendor?

Stop with the illegal crapola. That's all.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
52. For real officer. It is not my fault. They left the house unlocked. I am not to blame, waling in
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:21 AM
Dec 2015

and stealing the stuf

yardwork

(62,044 posts)
55. Anyway, look over there! Shiny!!!!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:25 AM
Dec 2015

Tears of laughter.

How ya doing, Sea? Is this the funniest thing in ages or what?



 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
63. It is a hoot. For so many reasons I am not getting into.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:37 AM
Dec 2015

It is good seeing you, too. Always. Now, I am off, and I will not see all that develops today.

YOU... have a good day.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
56. That's not what happened
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:26 AM
Dec 2015

You go to google and search for XYZ. And it returns the alphabet. In LBN there are more details on the sanders campaign were the ones who reported this. And that it's happened before where all the campaigns were able to see each other.

Bad guys don't then go to the police with the loot in hand saying they left the door open.

Honestly, I'm waiting for a real accounting to come out. Problem will be the believability of the audit.

Response to Paulie (Reply #45)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
48. I do not have a problem saying, Meh... to the fired employee. I do have issue blaming everyone but
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:16 AM
Dec 2015

the responsible parties and vilifying Clinton for a Sanders staffer's wrong.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
67. Any nefarious activity can be explained away if you try hard enough.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:53 AM
Dec 2015

Sanders supporters have blamed every negative aspect of his career on someone else. His slogan should be "Pass The Buck."

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
77. Looks like Bernie got caught pulling a "Watergate"! This is not going away...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:08 AM
Dec 2015

there were 4 people involved and one was a key person ordering the others to access the information. Democrats don't like people stealing their information. Especially someone posing as a Democrat.

There is going to be an investigation by the DNC.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
81. Flush all you want. This isn't going away in a day...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 AM
Dec 2015

And Bernie blaming the DNC and Hillary for his campaigns theft isn't going to work with anyone but the die hard Sander's supporters that live in the corners of the internet.

Real people know that the Bernie campaign has done something crooked. Now we need to see all of their servers in order to determine how much information the stole.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
87. This just doesn't smell right.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:28 AM
Dec 2015

DWS=DNC. The DNC has a "software glitch", then claims it's all an accident.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
89. Was the data stored in cardboard boxes in his garage? What about the pole dancer?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 AM
Dec 2015

Will Hillary demand more surveillance powers for the NSA?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
90. Anything to time a good dump...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 AM
Dec 2015

That's what I asked the Bernie Group before going to bed and seeing this WaPo "breaking" e-mail...

Smelled like 3 day old fish wrap at that fresh hour.... continues to stink now.

All the right people here who are so regularly pissed off at Sanders, in spite of the media black out, didn't waste any time doing their level best to pile on...

R-R-R-Rovian?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
95. Just one more in a series of dirty deeds the oligarch Dem establishment is using
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:38 AM
Dec 2015

as desperate attempts to stop Bernie and crush the threat of real democracy in America.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
101. Oldest trick in the book
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:32 PM
Dec 2015

Good news is no one buys it. We know Bernie is the honest one. Most people cannot say that for the others.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
102. DWS Will Now
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:59 PM
Dec 2015

Present the Oval Office to the GOP.
I'm done.
I am writing in Bernies name-no matter what in the GE.
All other Corporate/GOP Wing of the Dem Party will get a Vote of No Confidence. State And Federal

DWS lost massive seats in the House and she lost the Senate. All she has left to hand over is the Oval.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
103. The correct thing for the DNC to do
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:05 PM
Dec 2015

is have their IT people fix the security hole, have any campaign staffers that violated regs fired, then immediately restore access.

Of course, as head of the DNC, which is fair and impartial, DWS is going to immediately take care of this... Yeah, she'll get right on it.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
105. Right after Hillary got caught lying about her donors too.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:35 PM
Dec 2015

Anything to keep actual, you know, issues out of the public's mind!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
106. So Bernies own guy does this
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:39 PM
Dec 2015

and somehow its a conspiracy concocted by Hillary/DNC/DWS?

Is that what you are trying to say???

Wow!

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