2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders WINS DFA Endorsement For President
DEC. 17, 2015: With 271,527 votes cast -- and all three presidential candidates campaigning directly for your vote -- the results are in and they are extraordinary. Bernie Sanders has earned Democracy for America's endorsement in the 2016 Democratic Party presidential primary with an astonishing, record-breaking 87.9% of the vote.
Please share the news with your friends right now on Facebook, Twitter, or email -- and chip in on ActBlue to support DFA's campaign to elect Bernie Sanders!
BERNIE SANDERS 87.9%
HILLARY CLINTON 10.3%
MARTIN O'MALLEY 1.1%
DON'T ENDORSE 0.8%
http://2016.democracyforamerica.com/results
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I will be kicking these threads all day.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)mak3cats
(1,573 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Bernie cleared that by a country mile with another mile to spare.
brooklynite
(95,019 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Considering that the majority of those email addresses were already on the rolls of the DFA, the only point I can see to your reply is to be a debbie downer.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)There are many Eeyores on this board.
That's ok, the world needs Eeyores.
Most Sanders supporters are like Tigger though. It's uplifting and his supporters' positivity and terrific attitudes reflect very well on the candidate.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...who haven't donated (like myself). So far, I have donated directly to Liberal Candidates only (including Bernie), but may dig up some cash to send to DFA.
I do know that members of DFA are strong activists who decided that the current Democratic Party is headed in the WRONG direction, and that they CAN and WILL do something to turn that around.
Extremely Motivated group of people with endless energy.
This is a BIG endorsement that , unlike the UNION endorsements, that reflects the opinion of the Rank & File members of DFA.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)What's a matter with 'em?
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Or, or, or, all Hillary HATERS!
Hah! Sweet results!
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)But Howard endorsed Hillary!
Hmmm, what else will we hear to denigrate this great news?
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)by the size of the incoming sour grape shipment.
Better get out the truck scales.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)I love this news!!
I can not believe we will throw away this truly historic opportunity here. We have a huge chance to begin to change the direction of the Democratic Party after several DECADES of a corporate takeover.
Let's take the first big step!
msongs
(67,504 posts)if it was so ilrelvent why did howard dean bother to send email out to get people to vote for her.
So clinton people can't bother to vote in online poll which is easy but have time to post consently on DU.voting requires you to leave your house so it takes more detmination but keep up this memo
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)the DFA endorsement -- that's 700,000 members, so, there's that . . .
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)78% voted for Bernie. Let that sink in.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Whohooo!
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)Was it '78% of the voters for Bernie were already members'?
Or was it '78% of the already members voted for Bernie'?
Assuming not all DFA members voted, I think it's the first one.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)That means the correct interpretation is the latter of the two you presented. The point of including the parenthetical was to show that the poll wasn't rigged -- even if it was limited to already-members Bernie would have still won. The word "including" is very important here.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Oh yeah!!!!
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Doncha know that it MUST be a scientific poll in order to be legitimate? Sheesh, you folks haven't been listening to the advocates of Queen Hillary I, have you?
senz
(11,945 posts)Beautiful! God bless DFA. Yes, they'll be getting more money from me!
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)PatrickforO
(14,605 posts)We need to be plastering this happy little puppy all over social media. Cause the establishment ain't gonna talk about no 88% endorsement from a million member plus group. Nope...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Really, what an incredibly great, encouraging result! Must be depressing as hell in Camp Clinton today!
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)DFW
(54,519 posts)"First, we'll run a 100% positive campaign for Bernie, without tearing down any other candidate and we'll support the eventual nominee no matter who it is -- to make sure we keep Donald Trump, or any other Republican, out of the White House"
i.e. DFA will be nothing whatsoever like DU.
I told Jim (yes, we have each other on speed dial) that I disagreed with their decision to offer to endorse one or the other, but he is being sensible about the result, which is encouraging.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Of vocal people who will withhold their vote if Democratic Party incarnation of Veruca Salt manages to force herself down our collective throats, just like we have at DU.
There definitely are a few vocal people who are so mad at the Third Way bull pucky that they will just go home rather than vote for Queen Hillary I, and then there are the millions that will be so unmotivated they won't even bother coming out in the GE to vote for "Not So Republican Clinton". With a population of 700,000, chances are good they exist in the DFA too. Comes with the territory.
If you can't handle that, then you invested to much of your own ego in Her Inevitableness.
DFW
(54,519 posts)Neither Howard nor Jim is anything like that. Nor are any of the DFA people I have met on the phone (I only know Jim and Howard face to face--not too many local races here in Germany that DFA is involved in).
I doubt there is ANYONE seriously involved in DFA who not vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is. They would work just as hard for O'Malley as they would for either of the other two.
As for the anger part, well, like I said, DFA is nothing like DU. That's a problem they don't have.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)As one of Hill's most self-important supporters smirkingly pointed out, DFA has just greatly increased their mailing list. My concern? They'll collect a lot of money and NOT use it to support Bernie in the primary, so it will be available for Hillary should she be the eventual candidate.
I voted in this DFA poll, and AFTER I voted for Bernie, I got this smarmy letter from Dean AND Hillary begging me to change my vote to Hillary. I do not trust DFA.
I'm making automatic monthly donations to Bernie, plus donations to 3 other progressive candidates.
DFW
(54,519 posts)But if you don't, well, you have at least 5 or 6 months to do something else with your money, as I don't see the nomination being decided much before that.
DFA was always mainly about getting involved in local races. They have neither the money nor the manpower to sway a national race. They will work for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is, but they will devote their national resources for Bernie as long as he is in the race, whether it's through June or through November.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)DFW
(54,519 posts)I can ask Jim, and he might give me an approximate percentage--I doubt he will know it to the nearest decimal--, although their main thrust is local elections where their resources CAN sway close races. Whether or not he is cool with me posting it on an open board is another question entirely, and if he says no, than I will respect his wishes.
I'm sure that if you direct that question to Jim c/o DFA directly, that you will get an answer. They are not a huge staff up there in Burlington, and he does get serious inquiries directed to him.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)more solid information the better for everyone. I would like to know how this works too. Thanks in advance.
DFW
(54,519 posts)However, I have to tell him it's from an internet board visible to everyone, so if he says no, please respect that, OK? Republicans read this board, too. Probably a lot more than any of us suspect.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)joshcryer
(62,287 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)understands who is in their corner.......
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)K&R
ornotna
(10,810 posts)Go Bernie.
George II
(67,782 posts).........using two different email addresses.
They don't verify if I'm a citizen, if I'm old enough to vote, or where I live other than my zip code. They took the two votes with me using two different zip codes.
Essentially this is just another "online poll" in which a few zealots can stuff the ballot box.
Yawn.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Doesn't quite square with your talking points.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)And maybe the ones conducted by Clinton's bankrollers in the MSM?
WillyT
(72,631 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)Sanders Can't Win......
Until We Vote him into office, that is.
If they Must Ignore Sanders and his supporters, then they do so at their own peril.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Does anyone remember back in 08' HRC in a private fundraiser knocked the liberal group (Moveon.org)
We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party," Clinton told donors in the audio clip. "MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me.
That is what the Clinton campaign feared back than and should again
You can call us fringe or can call us far left ,but you will respect our votes
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)But not unexpected. DFA were Dean supporters in 2004.
Still, this is over a quarter of a million people.
Huuuggggeeee!
azmom
(5,208 posts)#UnidosConBernie
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Howard endorsed HRH. Howard WORKS FOR HRH. I HIGHLY DOUBT Howard Dean's DFA is going to let his organization endorse Bernie if the vote wasn't on the up and up...no cheating.
This result is right in line with every other online vote /poll. Bernie ALWAYS gets over 80%. All this whining and gnashing of the teeth from the sore losers makes me Embarrassed for them. It's seriously sad they can't accept the fact that HRH is NOT the chosen favorite of the DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. She just isn't going to win.
Two MILLION INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS, more than any candidate ever in history, DFA endorsement 271,000 - TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND people took the time to vote and 87.9% voted for Bernie and another Huge Union endorsement yesterday. Sorry, but HRH isn't inevitable. Not even close. The tide is turning, just as planned.
FANTASTIC ENDORSEMENT! That's a LOT of campaign help.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE