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Bernie's new ad: Effective Leader (Original Post) HerbChestnut Dec 2015 OP
Wonder how that "worked with John McCain" line is going to play with his base... brooklynite Dec 2015 #1
I don't think that's who the ad was targeting HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #2
Yeah. Because we are all too fucking stupid to understand which issue he Luminous Animal Dec 2015 #3
She helped the people who stole their houses when they were serving.nt artislife Dec 2015 #15
Probably just as well as it would if it was an ad for Feingold. n/t JackBeck Dec 2015 #14
Love it, because of what they did. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #28
It's well known to his base -- and needed to pass legislation karynnj Dec 2015 #30
how is he hill2016 Dec 2015 #4
I don't know, hill HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #5
all he talks about hill2016 Dec 2015 #6
Why are you asking me? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #7
Oh yes, the US should lead the fight against ISIS -- so the defense industry can make tons of money TryLogic Dec 2015 #12
Well now Bernie certainly brought home to VT the MIC F-35 misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #24
And ultimately that is what all the wars are about mvd Dec 2015 #27
Why exactly should the US be leading the fight Kentonio Dec 2015 #19
No, that's the top-ranked concern of the media currently Lazy Daisy Dec 2015 #11
"We have nothing to fear but fear itself." Hepburn Dec 2015 #21
It's the top concern for the most credulous, television-obsessed among us. arcane1 Dec 2015 #26
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #8
Good Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #9
K&R! Way to go Sanders! Packing a lot of punch into 30 seconds!! JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #10
Good Ad gordyfl Dec 2015 #13
K & R beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #16
K&R -- good ad, sticks with the facts. He'll be a great president. senz Dec 2015 #17
He'll need to be nominated first. It's not looking too good for him. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #20
Well, we'll keep trying. senz Dec 2015 #22
Can't blame anyone for that! :-) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #23
Thank you senz Dec 2015 #29
Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #18
What's Bernie ever been the leader of? misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #25
Leader? Of what? Good ad though. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #31
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
2. I don't think that's who the ad was targeting
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:42 AM
Dec 2015

Between this and the new farmer ad I'd say he's going for an older crowd and those outside the democratic party

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
3. Yeah. Because we are all too fucking stupid to understand which issue he
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:57 AM
Dec 2015

"worked with John McCain".

What the hell has Hillary done for mentally and physically wounded veterans other than create them.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
28. Love it, because of what they did.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:59 PM
Dec 2015

Despite criticisms of Bernie fans, we aren't raving lunatics as y'all might make out.

Principled, pragmatic, effective. I think Bernie is all those things, and I value those things.

I like Bernie because he stands for something, he doesn't switch his position all the time for political expediency, and I feel I can really count on him to stand for the things I hold dear (at least in most part - nobody's perfect for anyone else).

I not only like Bernie Sanders, I love Bernie Sanders for President.

karynnj

(59,494 posts)
30. It's well known to his base -- and needed to pass legislation
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:53 PM
Dec 2015

In 2008, HRC made a point that she and McCain drank Vodka together in Russia --- and that was touted by the NYT as how she was well liked by her peers.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
4. how is he
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:58 AM
Dec 2015

going to lead in the fight against ISIS?

This is the top-ranked concern by Americans currently.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. I don't know, hill
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:09 AM
Dec 2015

Maybe you should go on YouTube and search for a video of Bernie talking about ISIS.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
6. all he talks about
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:12 AM
Dec 2015

is what the Muslim countries should do.

Does he know that the Muslim countries have very different and competing strategic objectives?

Does he think that the US should not be taking a lead in the fight against ISIS?

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
7. Why are you asking me?
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:15 AM
Dec 2015

Why don't you go and listen to some of his interviews and find out for yourself?

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
12. Oh yes, the US should lead the fight against ISIS -- so the defense industry can make tons of money
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:03 AM
Dec 2015

and members of our military can spend more time in harm's way. Vote for Hillary? I am actually kind of astonished that she has such a be-tough-at-all-costs mean streak. She sounds like Dick Cheney.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
24. Well now Bernie certainly brought home to VT the MIC F-35
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:54 PM
Dec 2015

Reached right in that War Funding Bill he voted for and grabbed a big old chunk of MIC Contracts for himself.
The very same Contracts that Wall St investors all flocked to. Bernie was againt the War for profit until He grabbed a chunk of change for himself.

Profit before people
30% Bernie's in that gig as deep as the rest.

Shall we discuss guns? Immigration?

Just because Bernie won't talk about it doesn't mean it never happened.

mvd

(65,151 posts)
27. And ultimately that is what all the wars are about
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:04 PM
Dec 2015

It's not so much about protecting the nation as feeding the big machine. Aren't many truly self defense wars like WWII anymore. And Bernie never said that he would want all fighter jets banned. I don't post much on DU now because even the positive threads get smears. And my support of Bernie isn't going to be influenced.

Will support Hillary against the Repuke - we absolutely can't afford a Repuke President. Trump is a fascist!

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
19. Why exactly should the US be leading the fight
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:28 AM
Dec 2015

Against a Muslim terrorist organization fighting a conflict against Muslims in a number of Muslim nations? It's one thing to support allies against the threat posed, but why this desire to 'lead the fight'?

As for Muslim countries competing strategic objectives, as long as they know that the US will fight the battle for them, they don't need to find compromise and solutions locally. How does this end exactly? Where is the resolution to the whole mess, when we back the extremists in Saudi Arabia who are funding much of the extremist in the area?

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
11. No, that's the top-ranked concern of the media currently
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:59 AM
Dec 2015

Too many Americans are too busy worrying if they've got enough gas in the car to make it to work the entire week, enough money on their snap card to make it till the next month, if they can afford that trip to the Dr. because the cough is getting worse, hoping winter isn't too cold so the heating bill doesn't get out of hand.

Too many Americans don't have the luxury of worrying about ISIS. Hell, they don't have the luxury of worry. They just take it day by day existing.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
21. "We have nothing to fear but fear itself."
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:28 AM
Dec 2015

Words spoken by a REAL Democrat. Maybe you should learn from him and stop honoring a DINO?

JMHO

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. It's the top concern for the most credulous, television-obsessed among us.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

I would prefer they not set our agenda for us.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. Well, we'll keep trying.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:21 PM
Dec 2015

The people of this nation are worth it. I wouldn't be much of a patriot if I let negative Hillary supporters distract me from doing what's right for what could possibly be the most important election of our lives.

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