2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is it OK for Bernie to shout about income inequality?
But it's not OK for others to shout about gun control?
Where the hell is this "shouting" talking point coming from? Thousands of people are dying every year in this country because of guns and people want to do something about it.
Nobody is shouting. People are just discussing the issue of gun control.
What the hell is Bernie even talking about? Apparently if you're discussing an issue that Bernie doesn't want to touch, you're shouting.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Is this all you can come up with? Anyone who's been around here for the last month knows exactly what he meant and knows exactly what you're trying to do.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)She has tho, considered grabbing guns.
I thought all this was cleared up weeks ago. Where have you been?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Here's a look at some of Clinton's proposals:
Universal federal background checks. Clinton said she supports the 2013 US Senate bill expanding background checks on gun purchases, which most Republicans argue will not prevent determined individuals from getting their hands on guns. Polls have found that background checks enjoy broad support among most Americans.
Close various loopholes. Clinton's proposal cited several laws that allow individuals to purchase guns without undergoing existing background checks that look to ensure that gun purchasers do not have a history of court-documented mental illness. The proposal would end the "Charleston loophole" referring to a shooting earlier this year in South Carolina a quirk that allows gun sales to go through if a check is not completed within three days.
Repeal a law protecting gun manufacturers from lawsuits. The law is fairly complicated, but gun manufacturers have certain special protections that prevent victims of gun violence from suing for negligence.
Expand inspections of gun dealers.
Criminalize purchasing guns on behalf of those barred from buying guns themselves. Clinton proposes criminalizing "straw purchases," in which individuals buy guns and provide them to individuals who cannot pass background checks themselves.
Block convicted domestic abusers from buying and possessing guns.
Improve laws blocking individuals suffering from mental illness from obtaining weapons. This is possibly an area that she could find compromise gun-rights groups like the National Rifle Association have presented improved gun-control databases as the solution to curbing mass shootings, though many Democrats say this alone does not go far enough.
And the platform unveiled Monday also a contrasts Clinton with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), her main rival for the Democratic nomination.
Though Sanders and Clinton agree on many gun-control proposals, such as closing the so-called gun-show loophole on background checks, Sanders' somewhat checkered history on the issue allows Clinton to stake out a position to his left.
Sanders supported recent Senate legislation expanding background checks, but during his time in the US House of Representatives, he voted against the 1993 Brady bill, which required background checks for gun purchases. As The Washington Post reported, the NRA actually aided Sanders in his first congressional race based on his promise to oppose a waiting period on gun purchases.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-gun-control-plan-2015-10
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Gun confiscation.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)DU is deep into silly season, that's for sure.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)And I should fucking support someone who campaigns like this?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)...the similarities are striking.
sheshe2
(83,987 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)the bought and paid for polls certain PACs employ on behalf of a candidate who wants a coronation instead of a primary.
sheshe2
(83,987 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)And chose the voters they would interview the day before?
What questions were asked before voters were chosen to be in the poll?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)As if he has the super pac money to pay for such nonsense
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)As I'm sure you're aware that doesn't mean you get to go unchallenged
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Gun control engenders two different competing points of view where shouting precludes us from acting upon things we generally agree on "common sense gun control".
Bernie shouting about economic disparity is about bring up a voice that doesn't really have a legitimate oppositiom. No one is FOR poverty.... however we don't mind looking away if we are not adversely affected. Shouting about this is to raise social awareness.
Mind you this is all semantic because Bernie literally shouts as a personal mannerism. However what he is alluding to is figurative shouting rather than respectful discourse.
Either way I don't thin Sanders Clinton or the Democratic Party has the right approach to gun control.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Income inequality.
sheshe2
(83,987 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)That's part of the job description.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)he is sexist just like me
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I also support Bernie for President.
He is the best candidate I have ever seen.
I will continue to shout about guns and try to press him on the issue once he is President.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)That's plus one for Clinton.
Sanders is stronger on every other issue I can think of.
That's, I don't know, +20-30 for Sanders.
Any questions so far?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Cha
(297,890 posts)Read somewhere that it wasn't wise for him to even bring up "shouting" again since he's the one doing all the shouting.
But, you're so right.. people are dying from gun violence and BS wants to give his stump speech again.. and, oh enough with the "shouting" about gun violence.