2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Is An Intersectional Feminist, Just Look At His Track Record
On the issues, Bernie has been a front runner for a long time and this article takes a look at those issues and him as a senator along with how he's fought for the rights of so many.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/122043-bernie-sanders-is-an-intersectional-feminist-just-look-at-his-track-record
.......But perhaps more importantly, we should call Bernie Sanders an intersectional feminist because of his fight for the rights of women of color as well as women in the LGBTQ community.
His consistency in advocating for equality is what has drawn many fellow feminists to support Sanders. Already, a grassroots effort has sprouted for women to rally behind the Democratic presidential hopeful. Women for Bernie organizer Jenni Siri tells The Washington Post that it's Sanders' far-reaching policies and efforts that have drawn her and thousands of other women to support the Vermont senator. Siri said:
"Hillary's just not the right woman to do it. She's OK on health care, OK on some liberal issues. Bernie's policies just go farther and are all-around better."
He voted against the Defense of Marriage Act as well as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" while serving in the House of Representatives. Now that he's running for president, Sanders has outlined a seven-point plan he will implement if he's elected that includes bridging the inequality gap. Sanders' policies include:
* Sweeping anti-discrimination legislation that allows students as well as adults protection in addition to providing resources meant to reduce suicide rate in such a vulnerable population.
* Preventing financial institutions from discriminating against customers based on their sexual orientation or gender presentation.
* Educating police officers and departments on how to best interact with the LGBT community.
* Vetoing discriminatory "religious freedom" legislation.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Clinton has been working the world wide for better rights for women, all women, more education, ceasing violence against women which are mostly by spouses. When a person publishes a story about women's fantasies about being raped by three men at one time is not a good example of advocating for women's rights. Sanders has not run a record of helping and aiding women. He thinks it is still okay to shout "Secretary Clinton, shouting....., it is not okay, we don't need to be shouted to receive communication and especially when Secretary Clinton was on the debate stage, she was an equal, he did not respond correctly.
JackInGreen
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George II
(67,782 posts)BooScout
(10,406 posts)I think you nailed the response to the thought of Sanders as an Intersectional Feminist from all the main facets. Essentially Sanders talks the talk.....but doesn't walk the walk.....Hillary does.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)then jumps on the next obvious 'Talking Point' to try to again to falsely characterize a candidate's excellent record on issues such as Women's Rights, we know not to pay much attention to what such people have to say.
You're late with the 'sexism' talking point, that was from last week and thoroughly neutralized, mainly by Sanders' own incredile, consistent record on women's rights.
Planned Parenthood joined those who were outraged by this nasty, untruthful characterization of Sanders taking the time to speak out on his excellent record as a true Feminist.
I believe there are a few more talking points making the rounds this week, that one didn't survive the week.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Clinton, all the shouting....?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)record and by women themselves including PP.
Hillary playing the victim didn't go over very well with women especially.
But if you look around we've been keeping tabs on the corporate funded talking points and destroying them as they appear, mainly because they are mostly lies.
This is how thiings are today, unlike the times when great Dems were destroyed by Rovian talking points, see War Hero George McGovern eg, who was so mischaracterized by LIES and SMEARS that the country got the Crooked Nixon because of them.
We are not about to allow that to happen again.
If you want to promote your candidate do so on the issues. Not by promoting false talking points paid for by the Corp money flowing into Super Pacs.
In fact it's probably the worst thing to promote since this one issue, the Money in Politics, is the #1 Issue for a majority of Americans, now aware, unlike back in the old days, of these dirty tricks that have so destroyed our political system.
Because if your candidate is perceived in engaging in those old tactics, it will harm HER not her opponent and there is now an army of fact checkers online, all over Social Media exposing the lies and the MONEY that pays for them.
Btw, why don't you talk about issues rather than trying to spread these debunked talkiing points?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)this occasion has been played. Clinton did not solicit for this reaction, it was directed to her on the debate stage, this is on Sanders. If this was an attempt to destroy Sanders record then it on Sanders. Sanders has never attempted to apologize for this and in my mind it was meant as he said. As you say there is an army of fact checkers, Clinton is very used to everything is fact checked, it has been happening for years. Sanders will not be exempt to the fact checking.
I have not seen ANY evidence of debunking this talking point, it happened, video is available, any claim of debunking this talking point is not going to change the facts.
When the OP wants attention given to Sanders record then his record will be examined. The comment on talking about issues should be directed to the one who started this OP, I don' mind talking about issues, when issues are talked about it normally jumps off on talking points.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)just talk about the issues? All I see from Hillary's campaign are lame attempts to smear Sanders. He keeps on talking about the issues.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)provided the words, his actions, he is the victim of himself. And in this case the attempts to smear Clinton for actions of Sanders is happening, smearing Clinton does happen.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and Wall st behind them playing the victim, disgusts me. It harms women who have struggled for so long to NOT be viewed as victims.
No one has ever shouted ME down if I didn't want them to, and I am just an ordinary woman. So the attempt to portray Hillary as a victim of men shouting her down, was thoroughly depressing frankly.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)You can accuse Clinton of playing the victim, in this occasion she had every right to respond the next day about the shouting, the first rock was thrown by Sanders. Clinton responded she was not shouting. Sanders shouts all the time. I am through with this conversation, I have important things to do.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)don't engage in those tactics.
Bernie ceratainly doesn't but he won't allow lies and deception to go unchallenged for which I greatly admire him, as a woman.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Not an opertunist .