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sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,072 posts)That more debates do not equal better. We learned that last time with the republicans and again this time. It is not a good use of the candidate's time.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)but 6 is not enough. And to schedule 2 of them:
1. on a Saturday night at the height of college football.
2. on a Sunday during the NFL playoffs
What the heck. Do they not want people to watch?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I could have gone to the movies last Friday night but instead I listened to Martin, Bernie and Hillary.
If voting and democracy are less important than football to you then watch football.
I think they should schedule football around the debates not the other way around.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)but a lot of people didn't know it was on.
It's not necessarily what's more important it's that a lot of people won't know that they're on. Not everyone are political junkies like us.
My daughter had no idea about Rachel's forum last Friday, yet she's into politics. But between work and volunteer stuff she didn't see it. Luckily she has me to tell her and she dvr'd. But she's very politically aware.
It's as if these debates were scheduled in way so that people would miss them. They should have been done like they've always been done, during the week when people would be home to watch.
Sorry but I think this was intentional.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You might be able to go to MSNBC web page and get it.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Bernie Sanders from his campaign's ultimate demise?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)when Hillary seems to win them.
My guess is that Bernie folks want him to say things about Hillary that they say.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It is becoming obvious Sanders can't win the primary on his own. They are so up in arms about the debate for reasons other than what they are stating. They know full well the only way for Sanders to come out victorious is for Clinton to really step in it. They simply want to increase her opportunities for doing so. Literally, they are hoping a progressive loses, not that one wins. That is the mindset. It is one hundred percent in reality. Once they agree six is fine, it then moves to the timing of the six. Then when that is resolved, it's back to six isn't enough. They need Clinton to fuck up. That is the goal. It isn't about getting Sanders out there. The yearning for anything like that was put to bed at the last debate.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I've always had a problem with the number of debates.
I don't need Clinton to fuck up. I'm not a Bernie supporter. You can search DU and you will not find that I've said a foul word against either Bernie or Hillary.
I want to see more of Martin O'Malley. Is that ok? Why is that such a bad thing? What's with all the snark and nastiness I'm reading?
I'm a Democratic voter and have a right to ask to see more of a candidate running for President of the United States.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"I'm a Democratic voter and have a right to ask to see more of a candidate running for President of the United States. "
They are all over the country and on tv every single day. You couldn't see more of them if you wanted to.
"I want to see more of Martin O'Malley. Is that ok?"
That is more than ok. If he doesn't have a live event today I will be able to share multiple videos with you from him today.
"What's with all the snark and nastiness I'm reading?"
Because the time for this movement was months ago. It's kind of a joke to do it right now. People such as myself were actually writing and calling the DNC months ago. Posting ops here about doing it. Now it is nothing more than sour grapes.
"I'm not a Bernie supporter. You can search DU and you will not find that I've said a foul word against either Bernie or Hillary."
I truly don't see what is impressive about that considering both of them have taken foul stances on issues.
merrily
(45,251 posts)The first one was scheduled as late as DWS could get away with, giving Republicans tons more air time and oxygen than Democrats. The other three that have been scheduled were scheduled at the poorest times possible. And DWS flat out lied about having set the schedule with others at the DNC.
This smells to high heaven. I've called and emailed, because I think it's important to let them know we watch. However, I hold out zero hope that anything meaningful can or will be done at this point. I don't know if y'all have noticed yet, but our calls and emails have no impact, even on people who depend on our votes. (LOTE is a beautiful thing--for politicians. Stinks for the rest of us.) DNC officials do not depend on our votes. So, don't get your hopes up too high.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The last two debates are after February 1st. Fitting one debate in February is going to be hard. Fitting 2 is not going to happen. Super Tuesday is March 1st. Historically, the nominee has been decided by then. So there will be no reason to schedule the last two debates after that date.
We aren't getting 6 debates. We're getting 4.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)the other candidates to get their message out to the public
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)people will get tired of them and tune-out.
elleng
(131,879 posts)to LEARN so much that they become boring.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)Politicians need those hundreds of millions for wall to wall commercials so they don't get over exposed by some free TV time.
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)they start flinging mud and bitching about debate schedules, posting things I would expect to be seen on free republic.
now what'll happen is I'll get a bunch of snarky replies using these words in a role reversal
corkhead
(6,119 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)posts the candidate's connections and positions they are attacking that candidate. We should just pick the one that they feel we should vote for and smile while doing so.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)It's fixed.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)If it's a lone receptionist and switchboard operator, then I hope he or she won't have to deal with too much abuse. (It could be that they have an automated operator with voice recognition and all call of this nature could be forwarded to an all-purpose "complaints" voicemail box.)
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Here's the number...flood them with calls...
202-863-8000
I just called about the lack of debates and the horrible debate schedule. Call have your friends and family call. Make them hear you your displeasure/anger. They're getting at least 12 calls from my family today. I'm working on friends now.
Don't complain if you're not willing to do something as simple as pick up a phone and make you voice heard.
Please call....repeatedly if necessary.
self deleted. because screw it.