First on CNN: Clinton meets with Trayvon Martin's family

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Chicago (CNN)Hillary Clinton met Monday with a collection of parents whose African-American children have died in shootings at a local Chicago cafe, discussing their loss and outlining her criminal justice reform and gun control plans.

The gathering included members of Trayvon Martin's family and Jordan Davis' family, as well as the mothers of Michael Brown and Tamir Rice.

Martin was the 17-year old who was killed in 2012 by former neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman. Zimmerman's acquittal sparked protests across the country. Davis was a 17-year-old African-American high school student killed in a 2014 shooting that started with a complaint about loud music. Brown was the 18-year-old African-American killed in 2014 by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. And Rice was the 12-year-old African-American killed by police in Cleveland, Ohio.

Also in attendance was Maria Hamilton, the mother of Dontre Hamilton, a mentally ill man who died after being shot more than a dozen times in Milwaukee in 2014.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/hillary-clinton-trayvon-martin-chicago/index.html

[JaneyVee]

1. K AND R!

[jfern]

2. Bernie met with Sandra Bland's family, but didn't try to get any attention for it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. May we not politicize every thread?

I know some folks love to play in the gutter but Mama and Papa DSB warned me against playing there.


Thank you in advance.

[m-lekktor]

20. oh please do spare us. politics is THE reason you posted this to begin with. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I posted this because I knew some of the actors and am glad HRC provided succor.

Please don't project your character onto me.

Thank you in advance.

[enough]

45. Are you kidding?

I think it's wonderful that HRC is meeting with these parents. I hope she continues to do it, and I think it will have a positive effect. But "not politicize?" You have to be kidding. Why do you think this is happening now?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Because with the rash of blacks being killed by the police and misguided vigilantes...

Because with the rash of blacks being killed by the police and misguided vigilantes the issue is coming to the fore.

[1StrongBlackMan]

65. Okay ... Since the thread has already gone there ...

To the "my guy met with Sandra Bland's family" folks ... is there a difference between being in the same restaurant and being approached by Bland's aunt and introduced to Bland's mother, the same as this forum?

[840high]

68. Then why did you post this?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. To bring the epidemic of the killing of black youth to the fore.

I am sad but not surprised that some people turned this into a partisan exercise.

[JaneyVee]

5. Then how do you know about it?

[AgingAmerican]

9. Because her mother mentioned it to reporters

The real question is, how come YOU don't know about it?

[JaneyVee]

12. I did. Which is why that was a bs post.

Bernie tweeted about it. Or retweeted, can't remember which, it was a month ago.

[AgingAmerican]

13. You can't remember that which did not happen

nt

[Autumn]

19. No he did not tweet it or retweet it.

Nice try though.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/117535-sandra-blands-mother-says-its-what-bernie-sanders-didnt-do-after-they-met-that-earned-her

But it was what Sanders didn't do that earned him Bonner's gratitude.

He did not impose upon Ms. Geneva to ask for a picture of his own. He did not use the moment as an opportunity to promote his campaign. He took no record, he made no statement. He did not try to turn it into a publicity stunt. He simply made space for a sacred moment, and then let it pass without trying to gain anything from it. For that, I respect him. For that, I am grateful. That choice may not have made him a very good politician, but it made him a better man.

Not only did Sanders make no mention of this meeting in the public sphere, but he also used one of the biggest national platforms to finally answer the demand he and Martin O'Malley received months ago at Netroots Nation: He said Bland's name, and in doing so humanized a movement in which he is still working to find his footing. As DeRay Mckesson wrote following his meetings with Sanders and fellow Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, Sanders certainly does have a lot of work ahead of him, but he has a "strong initial platform" that reflects his genuine anger about the broken criminal justice system. And, as Colin McEnroe wrote for Salon following the debate, it is perhaps this anger that reflects Sanders' authenticity and makes him appeal to voters.

[840high]

72. No he didn't.

[Autumn]

14. Her Mother talked about it. Bernie never mentioned it

but he did say her name at the debate. I wonder what would have been said had Bernie notified the media. Nah no need to wonder.

[berni_mccoy]

7. Agree, these staged events that Clinton is holding seem like pandering

And it shows she's worried about losing the AA vote.

[JaneyVee]

11. LMAOOOOOOOO.

Needs more Cornel West!

[NanceGreggs]

15. Exactly!

BS's poll numbers have soared since associating with West - haven't you noticed?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. He should say if he wins he will take the professor as his running mate.

eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Actually, she needs to focus on the vote for the general.

She likely ends this race in New Hampshire...Don't fret, the idependent senator from Vermont likely has a successful college and book tour ahead of him...

BTW, I lived about three miles from where Trayvon was murdered and knew some of the actors. It is beyond shameful that you and some of your associates are trying to make political hay out of it.

By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

-Matthew 17:6

[riversedge]

21. No not pandering berni.. she know black lives matter--just like bernie and o'malley do.

leave it at that please.

[berni_mccoy]

25. Except she couldn't bring herself to say it at the debate... interesting.

[bravenak]

28. Interesting. They asked her a different question. I live blogged it.

[Cha]

41. Yeah? So the poster you're replying to doesn' know what he's talking about?

[bravenak]

50. Do they ever? No. Never.

[Cha]

103. I figured.. they don't have enough facts to bring up so they have to resort to subterfuge.

[bravenak]

104. We are in the time of word games and straw men.

[Cha]

106. Yeah.. they're not sure of bernie winning on facts. LOL

[bravenak]

108. The facts don't look good for a non Dem trying to win the Dem nom.

When has it ever happened? I should post an op asking.

[berni_mccoy]

57. I'm surprised Cha, I thought you were better than this

Read the transcript yourself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/13/the-oct-13-democratic-debate-who-said-what-and-what-it-means/

[Cha]

90. I"m Surprised, berni, I thought you were better than this.

"They asked her what she could do for AAs that Obama couldn't.
Different question."

[berni_mccoy]

119. Hmmmm

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6186699&mesg_id=6188982

[bravenak]

66. They asked her what she could do for AAs that Obama couldn't.

Different question.

[berni_mccoy]

55. Nope, she never said. Read the transcript

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/13/the-oct-13-democratic-debate-who-said-what-and-what-it-means/

[bravenak]

56. I did not say she said. I said they asked her something else.

[berni_mccoy]

58. That's a load of horse shit and you know. Clinton never said it. In fact she did much worse earlier

in the campaign: She said ALL LIVES MATTER. Which if you knew anything about the issue, you'd know that was completely racially insensitive.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/24/417112956/hillary-clintons-three-word-gaffe-all-lives-matter

[bravenak]

60. No. Not really. She did do worse earlier. And Bernie ran off and cancelled his meeting with blm.

[berni_mccoy]

62. Clinton never acknowledged during the debate that BLM. You know this. And no amount of

linguistic twister can make it otherwise.

She was asked no different question and gave no answer that included those words. Period. Clinton is pandering for the black vote because now she feels like she could lose it. And she will.

[bravenak]

63. Yeah right.

[bravenak]

76. Did you see your error yet? They asked her a different question. It's in the link you gave. :)

[berni_mccoy]

79. Did you see yours? She never said it.

[bravenak]

81. She was not asked it. She was asked something else. Deray ranted about it a bit.

Go look on twitchy. They was mad she got a different question.

[Agschmid]

83. She clearly should have just yelled...

"Black lives matter" during the debate.

God she sucks.

Give up on this on, they clearly have an agenda.

[bravenak]

84. We no longer live in the same reality as them.

[Agschmid]

85. Nope, we don't.

[Cha]

109. Thanks for saying that, Agschimd! I was just thinking that.. reading his purposefully

obstinate, repetitive claim.. that "she didn't say it".

[riversedge]

92. She was not given the opportunity since the moderaters asked her a different question. You look

stupid trying to get a poster to say something that never existed.

[Agschmid]

69. So do you consider her racist?

You are at bat, either hit the home run and take it all the way... Or strikeout.

You pick.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

77. Whoa

[Agschmid]

80. I'm getting sick of the implied shit...

None of our candidates are racist or sexist or homophobic... Anyone making another implication IMO is out of line.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. It is also pusillanimous to hide behind semantics.

eom

[riversedge]

91. Mods asked Bernie and O'M but when got to Hillary they asked another question. So you

claim is stupid and nonsense.

[Wotas]

53. Extremely worried

[840high]

74. ...+1

[retrowire]

32. +1 this is the first thing that came to mind when I read this OP. n/t

[Cha]

38. oh boo hoo.. It's good to bring attention to tragedy that was perpetrated against Trayvon Martin.

[yeoman6987]

48. Hillary is one of the most compassionate people on the planet

It is amazing the good she does. I am honored to know she is the next president of the United States of America. We are such a fortunate country.

[delrem]

54. "We came. We saw. He died. hahahahaha!"

[Evergreen Emerald]

86. I am curious about this constant attack

He was an evil man who murdered his own citizens. There are stories so horrific they are unbearable. I wonder, if you have every said something similar regarding a very evil person? If you say no, I will not believe you. You are being dishonest here using this statement against her.

I have had similar beliefs about Hitler, Malcovich, Ted Bundy, child rapists...

I am surprised by people who are not interested in the issues, but rather personal attacks that are virtually created by twisting yourself into a pretzel and giving away any self respect to create them.

[delrem]

100. Cluster bombs. On and on. Hundreds of thousands of dead.

Don't tell me that the PNAC wars are for compassionate reasons.

When the war and economic policies are identical I prefer the honesty of Republicans to Democratic lies.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

102. He also had a rape room where underaged boys and girls were delivered to sate his aberrant desires

Some victims were drafted into Gadhafi's unit of private female bodyguards, enduring years of rape and abuse and forced to witness the execution of opponents to the regime.

"Early one morning, we were taken to a closed hall," one former member recalled. "We were to witness the murder of 17 students. We were not allowed to scream. We were made to cheer and shout. To act as though we were delighted by this display. Inside I was crying. They shot them all, one by one."

"The women would first be raped by the dictator then passed on, like used objects, to one of his sons and eventually to high-ranking officials for more abuse," said Benghazi-based psychologist Seham Sergewa, who interviewed victims for the International Criminal Court.

Boys were also forced to serve in Gadhafi's harem. "He was terribly sexually deviant," recalled former chief of protocol Nuri Al Mismari. "Young boys and so on. He had his own boys. They used to be called the 'services group'."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.570727

[840high]

78. LOL

[Wotas]

52. I recall that

[Raine1967]

61. That's great! Was there a thread on DU about that?

I missed it, and I would gladly Rec it.

[jfern]

70. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251684857

[ronnykmarshall]

88. Yeah right.

[gwheezie]

3. White people have to face these families

And see what was done.

[randys1]

29. Yep, more and more white people may have to be brought kicking and screaming

as witnessed here at DU.

Brought kicking and screaming to the realization that racism is rampant, that institutional racism still provides for white privilege etc

[bravenak]

6. Nice. Good for her. I am sure they discussed alot of issues on profiling.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. It seems some people are using this as an opportunity to trash her...

The reptilian brain is sadly on full display in this thread.

[bravenak]

27. Many are jealous of her way with people.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. They should do it in another thread...

eom

[bravenak]

51. They get bored alone.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

64. They would rather try to upset us good folks.

eom

[bravenak]

67. Hippie punching us.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. It doesn't seem like it's a good look for them.

Maybe they don't care any more...

All I can say is I am privileged to have friends like you, Number 23, 1SBM, and GenXer... It looks like we were meant to become friends...

If it weren't for y'all I don't know if I would continue posting.

[bravenak]

73. The only reason to post is you guys.

This influx of independent voters will be gone by March and then we can be comfortable agin.

[lunamagica]

8. K&R.

[riversedge]

17. glad to see Dontre Hamilton's mom there. That was and is such a sad case.

[Rose Siding]

22. Here's a link

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/hillary-clinton-trayvon-martin-chicago/index.html

It was good of them to meet with her. Trayvon's mother said, "It was a very powerful meeting, it was powerful"

Hillary just tweeted:


Grateful to spend time today with mothers who have lost a child to violence and turned their grief into a national call to action. -H

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/661333253115236352

[riversedge]

89. yes, just saw Hillary's tweet about this....

Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 2h2 hours ago

Grateful to spend time today with mothers who have lost a child to violence and turned their grief into a national call to action. -H

[wendylaroux]

26. she did?

that is remarkable!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Sad that you think giving succor to the families of murder victims is a time for sarcasm

wendylaroux


wendylaroux


she did
that is remarkable !!

Sad that you think giving succor to the families of murder victims is a time for sarcasm, that is remarkable, too!!

[mcar]

31. K&R

[GummyBearz]

33. Nevermind

.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. Pass

[GummyBearz]

39. Ok I was over the top. Erased it.

I know it wasn't nice... I'm trying to work on that.

[brooklynite]

44. Maybe you're just to lazy to find the invitations?

Now that she's moved into traditional campaigning (as she announced her plan would be) she regularly holds public forums around the country. I've posted a number here. I could also point you to where you can find her schedule. You could also go the events page at HILLARYCLINTON.COM.

But then, what would you have to complain about?

[rbrnmw]

34. Thanks for posting

People trying to shit on this thread should do some self examination.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. That suggests they actually have the capacity./nt

[mcar]

59. Indeed

[Starry Messenger]

36. Very powerful.

[NCTraveler]

42. I just don't see how people can make this negative.

Their son was hunted down in the streets by a man with a license to kill blacks. They have the ear of the damn near unchallenged front runner of the only party that really gives a shit, and it's bad? His life, and death, will continue to influence us if we are who we claim to be. His death has given many the strength in will to take their activism to the next level.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. Read Elisabeth Kubler Ross' Five States Of Grief and it all makes sense...

Sadly, many of the denizens of this board are in the Anger stage. I want to be here for them as they work through all the Stages and end up at Acceptance, but it is not going to be without difficulty.

[Cha]

43. This is so important.. Justice4Trayvon! Thank you Hillary~

Mahalo DSB

[MineralMan]

49. That's excellent.

It's time for leaders to take this seriously, all politics aside. I see nothing here to criticize, and do not understand the criticism. Have we sunk so low that we forget? If so, shame on us. Thanks, Hillary. Good job.

[Initech]

93. Why isn't George Zimmerman in jail yet?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

94. Be patient

What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.

-Luke 12:3

[Recursion]

96. Maybe the sixth arrest will finally stick (nt)

[Township75]

99. Because we didn't choose Hillary in 2008, bu we can make the change soon

And people like George are in for a surprise when the safety they have enjoyed is gone when a new sheriff comes to town.

[DrBulldog]

95. Another sickening publicity copy-cat for Hillary.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

97. I will defer to Samaria Rice over the opinion of a bitter internet poster.

"She is a mother and she is a woman and I felt she understood where we were coming from," said Samaria Rice, mother of Tamir Rice. "It doesn't matter what color we are, I felt that she really understand where we are coming from."

[MrWendel]

98. Everything Hillary has ever done Bernie has done it first Riiight?

Your poll driven desperation is showing.

[riversedge]

101. Your talking point is BORING

[Cha]

105. Oh you poor thing.. the Reminder of zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin gets out in the news and

his parents get the comfort of talking about it to Hillary.. and all BS' fans can think of is poor Bernie.

[bravenak]

107. .

[DemocratSinceBirth]

110. I used to live in that area and knew some of the actors.

I can't believe I could have been walking around in Target and Zimmerman could have been in there strapped.

[bravenak]

111. It makes one sick inside.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

113. I knew Frank Taaffe who used to go on tv and vouch for him.

He was very, very....intense...

But even he changed his opinion on Zimmerman...

[bravenak]

115. I remember his change

I watched him on Nanct Grace. He was oily.

[Cha]

112. It's all about poor bernie..

[bravenak]

114. All this victim stuff is annoying!!

Dude does not fart sunbeams! Jesus.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

116. It also distracts from the real victims.

EOM

[bravenak]

117. Makes him the more important issue. As always. Always has to be about him. Or else.

[Walk away]

118. I like that Hillary takes an open stand on this issue. Bernie doesn't want to be seen supporting...

the African American community and risk alienating his republican leaning supporters. He needs every vote he can get and his supporters are proud that he has support from them.

It's understandable that he wants to keep his head down on this issue. It's commendable that Hillary is willing to publically support the African American Community in front of the entire country.