So, after one single post in the HRC group, I was blocked...

[mak3cats]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by TexasTowelie (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

And this is the thread I posted in:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110723726

This is not a meta thread, because I'm not complaining about being blocked.

However, I'm still looking for proof of this allegation. Still can't find it on Google, and there's still no link in the original thread (to which I can't post since I've been blocked).

Help?

[jfern]

1. Hillary claimed that Bernie was sexist

And that turned out to be false. So I doubt there's much validity when they don't even produce any evidence.

[sabrina 1]

9. Hillary Played the 'Woman Victim' card, very badly. That talking point died a quick death, however

it backfired on her as people were just disgusted that she would try to portray herself as some kind of victim.

It reminded me of a bad stand-up routine.

[bravenak]

2. It was on live TV.

[mak3cats]

4. Yes, I know...

...but there were several claims in the thread about connections to the network and the ability to get proof. Still nothing. So if I post that I heard or saw something on live TV that was unflattering to Ms Clinton that that should go unchallenged also? I'm not trying to be an asshole here, I'm just trying to be fair. You have your soapbox, I have mine.

(And I'm glad to see you posting again, and hope you and your family are safe.)

[bravenak]

5. Thank you.

I watched that day and it was not a story just a few mentions on air. I do not know if they posted a clip yet. I hope you find it.

[Live and Learn]

3. You were banned for asking for a link apparently. Things are getting strange here.

My question is, why worry about it? I trashed that group and another one today (first time ever using that feature). Unfortunately it doesn't block them all together but it helps.

[still_one]

7. Those are special groups with their own rules. I was banned from the Elizabeth Warren group because

I said I didn't think she would run for President in 2016. At the time I didn't realize I was posting in the Elizabeth Warren group, but I wasn't upset about it.

As for your statement that the OP was banned for simply asking for a link, not quite. He added an "unrecommend to his or her comment". If the "unrecommend" comment hadn't been put in there, I doubt he would have been blocked from that group.

For me I never put anyone on ignore. I don't know about the "trash" feature, but for the same reason I don't put anyone on ignore, I doubt I would use.

That is a personal choice thing though

One thing I agree whole heartedly with you, why worry about it if you are blocked from a group. At least to me it isn't that big of a deal.

[Cha]

10. Thank you so much for the support, still_one.. I just decided to address this myself..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=752582

I alerted as META twice but haven't heard back.. I guess no one is available.

You're right.. If the Unrec hadn't been there.. the poster would not be blocked.

That's twice now that someone has gone into GD and GDP and complained about being blocked in Hill's group but didn't tell the whole story either time.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. Maybe some folks don't consider veracity a virtue./nt

[still_one]

48. Definitely NOT as innocent as portrayed in the OP.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

6. Wouldn't be surprised.

But I would also like to see a link.

The bias against Bernie has already been well-documented and this would certainly add to the corporate media spin narrative, assuming it was consistent with the journalistic malpractice seen daily from corporate media.

[marym625]

11. corporate media only lies when it's bad about third way candidates!

Silly you!

[NCTraveler]

33. Agreed.

Can you believe the lie the NYT trotted out against Clinton about criminality of emails. Their right wing agenda is clear. Even after their retraction they ran with a cartoon that continued their admitted falsehood. They can't stop lying about progressives.

[Cha]

8. It doesn't matter how many posts you have in there.. one or a dozen. If you Unrec you're

outta there.

It's Hillary's Group. We support our Team.

If a Hillary supporter went into the BS Group and wanted "proof" and unRec.. they would be Blocked, too.

So don't act like it's only Hill's Group that would do that.

I alerted on this as META twice.. but not hearing anything from the HOSTS. Evidently, no one is available so I decided to address it myself.

And, yes you are "complaining".. "So, after one single post in the HRC group, I was blocked"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=24013

[Cali_Democrat]

12. LOL...I was banned from the Elizabeth Warren group for posting a link to an article

where she said she wasn't going to run for President.

Deal with it.

[Cha]

13. You're the second one on the thread who said they were banned from the EW group. they try to act

like it's only Hill's Group that bans people.

We do ban a lot because we have a lot of disruptors. I would never go into the BS group. I respect their privacy.

[thelordofhell]

14. I got banned from the Bernie Sanders group on my first post there.......

I had the temerity to think someone was crazy for suggesting that the Benghazi hearing was a covert op to get Hillary elected in the Primary.........

[Cha]

16. Thank you for your input, the lordofhell. lol

[demwing]

20. "The OP is proof.. you just don't want to hear it. Too bad"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110723726#post95

In other words: "It's true because we say it's true."

Lol! That should be Hillary's campaign motto.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

47. Well, that certainly seems to be the way it came out.

The Benghazi hearing was a blessing for her campaign. Gave her her best week of the campaign to date.

[a2liberal]

15. Wow that thread is awful

Full of accusations and not a shred of evidence (I mean of the supposed widespread "misogynist" posts by Sanders supporters, I don't doubt that MSNBC is helping the Clinton camp spread the next stage of innuendo). Not a single, solitary link. Not even one. And lots of scheming on how to try to inflate this false scandal like they've done with the others.

I wonder if they even hear what they're saying in there...

Let me guess, I'm a misogynist now?

Edit to add: safe group is not a defense for spreading lies. Can you imagine the outrage if there was a post in the Bernie group with a broad-brush insinuation about Hillary supporters with absolutely zero proof whatsoever? And scheming on how to get the media to spread that insinuation?

Edit2: I think I figured it out... this latest round is an attempt to make sure that the media coverage on Monday doesn't go to Clinton's BLM incident... they tried to float all sorts of convoluted justifications for the hypocrisy here but I think they realized that when it's so blatant it becomes impossible to spin, so they're trying to drown it out with a different made-up issue. And no, I'm still not a misogynist, just because I'm pointing out political machinations.

[BooScout]

17. This is Meta.

It needs to be locked.

[Cha]

18. Yes it is. "So, after one single post in the HRC group, I was blocked..." and conveniently not

mentioning he Unrec the OP while he was in Hillary's Group.

Yes, we're having META discussions right here in GDP. How nice.

[ucrdem]

26. I also alerted many hours ago.

Can't imagine what the problem is.

[Cha]

28. Thank you ucr.. that's 2 from me.. 1 from you and one from Boo!

[ucrdem]

37. Happy Great Pineapple day Cha!

[Cha]

43. Mahalo! And, I love your Charlie Brown pic.. Great Pumpkins!

[JTFrog]

63. The problem is bias.

The site is no longer about getting the most Democrats elected to office. The jury and host systems are a joke. The only decent moderation of this site is done by MIRT.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. The rules are different for certain people.

[99Forever]

38. They hate the light of their activities being exposed.

[Cha]

45. I don't give a shite..if a Hill supporter went into the BS group and unrec one of their posts they'd

be out.

I wouldn't go in there, though. I respect their privacy.

[stonecutter357]

19. that group is for liberals and progressives.

So i am not shocked you where blocked

[Cha]

21. He said he Unrec the OP in a protected group,and now whining about it in GDP and getting the BS

supporters riled up.

Waiting for the META Lock..

[demwing]

22. Bullshit. That group is for Hillary supporters

I'm not surprised you couldn't recognize liberals and progressives, they've all been blocked from that pit. You need to get out more.

[stonecutter357]

24. why the personal attack do you feel threatened?

[demwing]

41. Not personal, unless you think you are the Hillary group /nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. As a fair and dispassionate observer I regret that I must demur from your harsh accusation...

As a fair and dispassionate observer I regret that I must demur from your harsh accusation which borders on libel.

[Cha]

23. Haha.. you're upsetting someone!

[Kentonio]

25. Cha was kind enough to block me from that forum too after a single post

Because I had the temerity to take issue with them calling it 'sexist demagoguery' to be worried about a Clinton dynasty.

I especially appreciated the reply they posted to my post after denying me the chance to respond. Really brave.

[Cha]

27. too bad. Our group is not there to argue.. you have the whole rest of the board for that. If a

a Hill supporter went into the BS group and started questioning them.. they would block us.

I don't go in their group, though. I respect their privacy.

[Kentonio]

35. I wasn't questioning Clintons qualifications to be president

I was pointing out that worries about political dynasties are a legitimate concern for people. What I didn't say (because its a Hillary group, and that would have been rude) was that calling those concerns 'sexist demagoguery' was one of the most ridiculous and hyperbolic things I've ever read.

Quite frankly though, if your group is there for you to make stupid statements and refuse others the right to question you on them, then its a group I want absolutely no part of, no matter who your candidate is. Both candidates are strong, battle hardened and positive people who are a credit to the party. The idea of needing a 'protected space' where you can cheerlead for them without any kind of counter seems pretty laughable quite frankly.

[Cha]

40. Good. you don't like that protected groups are able to discuss what they want without

distruptors .. talk to Skinner in ATA. The Admins made these groups possible.

[Kentonio]

42. Protected groups make perfect sense

When they are used to stop people attacking. When they are used to created a closed echo chamber however where no genuine discussion can take place, then they become ridiculous.

[Cha]

46. Whatever.. talk to Skinner.

[portlander23]

29. Shake it off

It's an HRC clubhouse, not a debating stage.

[rjsquirrel]

34. Happens to everyone

Who dares to question the coronation of The Queen.

Of Wall Street.

[leftofcool]

51. No, it is a protected group to discuss HRC in the manner her supporters choose

You have to entire rest of DU to bash Hillary. Deal with it!

[Cha]

59. No, actually you have the whole board to act out with your insults.. just not in the protected

groups.

[sufrommich]

36. This is Meta and a not so subtle invitation to kick

the HC group in GD/P. It's funny that the hosts have no problem with some types of Meta but are quick to close others. Hmmmm.

[ucrdem]

39. I'm sure it's all just a big misunderstanding.

[Cha]

49. Yeah I wonder if it were the BS group getting called out for a Block for yada yada yada if they

would call it META then.

We're not suppose to believe our eyes.. just listen to the silence and soon you will begin to believe it's not Meta.. keep repeating that to yourselves over and over.. It's not Meta It's not Meta It's NOT Meta.. and you will slowly come to realize it's all in your imagination.

[ucrdem]

60. Yep.

Orwell on steroids.

[Cha]

65. Black is White Crooked is Straight Down is UP! META in GDP is NOT META in GDP when the HRC

is being discussed. Got it?! Good!

[sufrommich]

62. I pm'd Skinner about this problem with pro Bernie

hosts letting Meta that they approve of stand. I hope others do the same. There's no logical reason for this to stand other than hosts playing games.

[Cha]

50. Yeah I wonder if it were the BS group getting called out for a Block for yada yada yada if they

would call it META then.

We're not suppose to believe our eyes.. just listen to the silence and soon you will begin to believe it's not Meta.. keep repeating that to yourselves over and over.. It's not Meta It's not Meta It's NOT Meta.. and you will slowly come to realize it's all in your imagination.



I just posted this to ucr.. I liked it so much I decided to post it to you too, su!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

44. I wouldn't be surprised in the least that many people who support Bernie are sexist, that many

people who support Hillary are sexist, that many people who support O'Malley are sexist, that many people who support ANY or EVERY candidate are sexist.

Sexism is not ideological, it adheres to no specific candidate.

So are some Bernie supporters sexist? Sure. And no doubt some are racist, and some are homophobic, and some adhere to just about any ism out there. And ditto for Hillary supporters, Jeb supporters, O'Malley supporters, Fiorina supporters, etc etc etc.

I also wouldn't be surprised to find out some ratfucking is going on as well, to make Sanders look like even more of his supporters are, given the glee with which such stories are met in some quarters.

[leftofcool]

52. Get over it!

[NCTraveler]

53. I'm sure you had the best intentions....

In showing your support for Hillary. This must be one of those "issues" I keep hearing about.

[Renew Deal]

54. You're not complaining. You're whining.

I guess whining isn't meta.

[BootinUp]

55. Why did you post there in the first place?

Rules don't apply to you or something?

[Cha]

56. Good question. i wouldn't go into the BS Group and Unrec an OP and expect not to get Blocked

just because it was my first post.

[PowerToThePeople]

57. This is META, and...

Anyone who does not support Hillary will get blocked for posting in that group. It does not matter if you do not post anything negative about her there. They will still block you. They have lists of names from GD-P and perceive your handle showing up in the group as a negative influence.

Get over it and hide the group. Problem solved.

[Kentonio]

64. So a Democrat who is undecided can't visit a candidates group

To discuss the candidate and ask questions? That seems a bit counter-productive if the goal of a group is to support that candidate for the nomination.

[DURHAM D]

58. This is Meta.

Where are the Hosts?

[Cha]

61. Everyone thinks so except.. yeah, there's been several alerts hours ago.. but radio silence except

I heard from one host. and, it was a 2-1 lock. guess the others are still sleeping.

So I guess META is Okay in GDP now? Great.. have at it!

[TexasTowelie]

66. Locking thread.

A forum for general discussion of the Democratic presidential primaries. Disruptive meta-discussion is forbidden.

Threads complaining about Democratic Underground or its members; threads complaining about jury decisions, locked threads, suspensions, bannings, or the like; and threads intended to disrupt or negatively influence the normal workings of Democratic Underground and its community moderating system are not permitted.