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Bernie Sanders supports keeping troops in Afghanistan. (Original Post) JaneyVee Oct 2015 OP
Well, at least he's being consistent. He voted for the Afghansitan war, too, and ALL the BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #1
Yes, we do. it has been brought up here many times. djean111 Oct 2015 #3
Nice to read that Bernie supporters here on DU know, but that isn't the norm BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #15
Do you still think HC voted for the Iraq war because of 9/11 even though Saddam wasn't responsible? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #11
Golly! Practically identical twins! djean111 Oct 2015 #2
The reality is BootinUp Oct 2015 #13
I supported Hillary in 2008, voted for her in that fucked-up Florida primary. djean111 Oct 2015 #14
I don't agree with my candidate on every issue jfern Oct 2015 #4
+ swilton Oct 2015 #8
I don't agree with my candidate on every issue. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #16
Every other governor, senator, or representative from Vermont since at least 1991 has a C or higher jfern Oct 2015 #18
Hillary supports sending even more troops Aerows Oct 2015 #5
Yep, the only one I will agree with 100% of the time is me. JRLeft Oct 2015 #6
And, I strongly disagree with him, and Obama, and Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #7
+1. We're wasting time, lives, and money trying to postpone the inevitable. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #9
Bye bye, Bernie. GeorgeGist Oct 2015 #10
Warmongers Both! BootinUp Oct 2015 #12
But But But... war is teh evil and shit!!! Bernie eats war!!! Corporate media!!! uponit7771 Oct 2015 #17
I thought "we" had decided that any concerns and conflicts could be resolved by TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #19

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. Well, at least he's being consistent. He voted for the Afghansitan war, too, and ALL the
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 02:43 PM
Oct 2015

appropriation bills to fund all wars since. I wonder if his supporters know this?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Yes, we do. it has been brought up here many times.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 02:47 PM
Oct 2015

he doesn't like that we have all those soldiers over there, but he also does not want them to not be armed and fed and so on. Since they have no control over being there.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
15. Nice to read that Bernie supporters here on DU know, but that isn't the norm
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 05:25 PM
Oct 2015

on other blogs and sites. They're usually under the false assumption that Sanders is a pacifist being that he was a conscientious objector during the Viet Nam war. They're usually surprised as heck when I disabuse them of that myth,

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Golly! Practically identical twins!
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 02:45 PM
Oct 2015

There is an entire list of reasons to not support Hillary. The candidates both agreeing on keeping troops in Afghanistan does not even dent that list. Bernie's supporters are not purists, and they are not single-issue voters.

BootinUp

(47,144 posts)
13. The reality is
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 04:23 PM
Oct 2015

many many people who consider themselves knowledgeable about politics have opinions of Hillary that are based as much OR MORE on myth, than reality.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
14. I supported Hillary in 2008, voted for her in that fucked-up Florida primary.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 04:43 PM
Oct 2015

A lot of googling since then. I was not really aware of much that actually happened; I was likely a victim of Bill's affability and charm. Third Way, Bosnia sniper lies, traveling the world pushing fracking and the TPP, advocating for more h-1B visas, refusing to sign off on limiting cluster bombs, ties with Wall Street. As a woman, I am disgusted with the gender card stuff - that is not what women's lib was all about. I do not trust her to do anything she says.

I would have been just as happy with Elizabeth Warren - she and Bernie are similar on many issues. but I cannot in good conscience enable any more Third Way DINO stuff, using social issues to cover for the financial aims.
I feel secure in my choice to support Bernie.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
16. I don't agree with my candidate on every issue.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 05:36 PM
Oct 2015

But Hillary Clinton is pretty good on all the issues I care about. Sanders is not. His NRA "D" rating, for example, is poor. Hillary Clinton's "F" rating is stellar. Any Democrat or politician who gets less than an F-rating from the NRA is not a candidate for me.

Consequently, were it not for Hillary Clinton pointing out during the debate that Sanders had voted against the Brady Bill FIVE TIMES - a bill that passed despite his "no-vote" and signed into law and what had blocked over 2 million guns from reaching people who have NO business having one since 1994 - I would have never known about it.

Since February 28, 1994, the Brady law has blocked more than 2.1 million gun purchases, according to data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. That is 343 purchases blocked every day. More than one million of those attempted purchases were by felons. Another 291,000 denials were to domestic abusers. And, 118,000 gun sales to fugitives were blocked thanks to background checks.

“It is clear Brady background checks work. Lives have been saved by the Brady law as we have seen the undeniable evidence showing gun homicides have decreased since the law took effect 20 years ago,” said Dan Gross, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “We need Congress to expand Brady background checks to make it harder for criminals and other dangerous people to get guns online, in classified advertisements or at gun shows.”
http://www.bradycampaign.org/inthenews/brady-campaign-releases-a-report-analyzing-20-years-of-effective-background-checks


Although I'm NOT a "one-issue voter", I happen to think gun safety laws are extremely important.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
18. Every other governor, senator, or representative from Vermont since at least 1991 has a C or higher
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 06:19 PM
Oct 2015

And some of them endorsed Hillary. The Brady bill was one bill almost 25 years ago. Bernie has voted for assault weapon bans, background checks, and plenty of other gun control since then.

Meanwhile Hillary criticized Obama for being too critical of guns.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. And, I strongly disagree with him, and Obama, and Hillary.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 03:07 PM
Oct 2015

We lost. Get out. Get over it. And..don't do it again.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
19. I thought "we" had decided that any concerns and conflicts could be resolved by
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 06:44 PM
Oct 2015

assuming evolution and/or the real (insert candidate here) will come out after the election, second term at the latest.

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