2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumR.T. Rybak: Debbie Wasserman Schultz PUTTING 2016 AT RISK
politicman
(710 posts)If Shultz gets her way and HRC is nominated, then I am 100% staying home on election day and encouraging others that I know to do the same.
I will not allow corporatist dems and most importantly their supporters to be the only winners of a HRC presidency.\
Nominate Hillary for your own greed and risk everything by ending up in the pits with the rest of America under a republican presidency.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I will still vote, no matter who the dems nominate for president. I may have to write-in a presidential vote, but I'm not risking my decent local candidates.
politicman
(710 posts)Local politics is a different story, local candidates will get my vote based on what they offer as candidates.
No-one, and I mean no-one from now on will get an automatic vote from me just because they have a D next to their name.
I judge politicians on policy not party affiliation, if they truly are progressive politicians they can prove it to me and every one else by advocating and implementing progressive policies even if their corporate overlords are against them.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i plan to write in bernie to send a message and vote for any progressives running in other races.
but if hrc gets the nom, she will not win the ge, and it will be the corrupt partys fault, not ours.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)....because you said you asked the vice-chair-people if 6 debates was the right number of debates.
In your rebuttal, you said NOTHING about that. WTF??
Segami
(14,923 posts)The plan was straight out of the DLC-- back only Democrats who would go along with Wall Streets demands and forget Main Street-- raise that big money; never mind the 99%. But they forgot one little detail-- they also needed votes. The hemorrhaging started in 2010 and has continued throughout Obamas presidency making it almost impossible to get the bills paid let alone do anything to help the hapless citizens. But no matter-- Wasserman Schultz had her fiefdom and who would dare to challenge her? The plan kept Democratic voters away in droves during the critical redistricting election of 2010 allowing the Republicans to gerrymander their way into control of the House while losing the total vote by over a million votes-- but never mind, Debbies seat was safe!
So who would dare challenge her majesty? A little known back bencher from Hawaii of all places-- Tulsi Gabbard-- who happened to be one of the vice chairs of the Democratic National Committee! She had been "disinvited" to the first of only six presidential debates scheduled by Debbie Dictator for daring to go on TV and complain about how few debates had been scheduled and that four of the measly six debates were to take place on weekends when no one would be watching. Was Wasserman Schultz trying to help her friend Hillary? So it would seem. Wall Street Hillary vs Main Street Bernie-- which candidate would Debbie Dictator support? Not the people choice! Debbie goes with the punditocracy and their media puppet masters who are scared to death of a Bernie presidency.
So let the pile on begin. R.K. Ryback, next out of the gate, appeared on Meet the Press weekday edition yesterday to back up his fellow vice-chair after telling Bloomberg News that he questioned whether Wasserman Schultz has "the leadership skills to get us through the election." Asked if he was calling on her to resign he answered that he was "coming really close." Seems Little Debbie lied when she said she had consulted her vice chairs about her debate plans. She had not. And that may finally be her undoing. Although she is adamant that she will never retire voluntarily.
A major West Coast Bernie supporter, author and progressive former congressional candidate Marianne Williamson, has also been raising the tricky issue of why Lawrence Lessig has been banned from the Democratic debates. Earlier today, she told us that "Debbie Wasserman Schulz not allowing Lawrence Lessig into the Democratic debates-- while she does allow Chafee and Webb, who've raised virtually no dollars compared to Lessig's million-plus-- is outrageous. Lawrence is out there campaigning and talking about his ideas. Is Jim Webb? We should all be crying 'Foul!' at the top of our lungs."
As the controversies heat up and Democrats start paying attention, they will find out that in Florida the DNC under Wasserman Schultz has been pushing Republican-lite Democrat Patrick Murphy over the voters favorite, progressive icon Alan Grayson. In Illinois, the Wasseman Schultz DNC has endorsed moderate Tammy Duckworth over progressive Andrea Zopp; in Ohio Ted Strickland, the NRAs favorite son, is endorsed over P.G. Sittenfeld, another progressive. Keep that Wall Street money rolling in. Even in California Debbie Dictator teamed up with Emilys list to endorse an opponent to Lou Vince, yet another progressive favorite. That is not going well at all..."
cont'
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2015/10/democrats-ready-to-dump-debbie-dictator.html
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)In this puff piece did not fact check the lie, and then let her lie on camera.
global1
(25,359 posts)DWS directly responsible because she limited the number of debates and didn't let Bernie get the exposure.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)and blatantly lied about Tulsi and the other committee members. She told Tulsi not to attend the debate. Why would Tulsi lie about something like that? What would she gain by lying? NOTHING. DWS LIED.
DWS made the decision to have only 6 debates on her own without consulting anyone else, but LIED on camera and said she did consult with them. If she would lie about this issue too, what else has she lied about?
The one issue I have about R.T.? I think he's being naive about the 6 debates not being at the request of Clinton. He doesn't think that's the case. I DO.
Segami
(14,923 posts)by leaving himself wide wiggle room by saying,
" I don't believe she's doing the bidding BUT...I could be wrong..."
In reference to Debbie doing the bidding for the Clinton Campaign by limiting the debates to 6.
3:36 vid.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)He's probably trying to be diplomatic about it, but DWS really doesn't deserve it. She has dissed the committee members, blatantly lied about them on teevee and from what it sounds like to me, this 6 debate debacle isn't the first time they've had a go around with her about how things are done at the DNC. She seems to be someone who will do what she wants, committee be damned.
DWS needs to go. It would be nice to see R.T. take the leadership roll.
I am glad R.T. and Tulsi have exposed her though. They pretty much validated everything I suspected about her and her actions within the DNC.
Segami
(14,923 posts)unless she is replaced sooner rather than later. The worst of all scenarios is allowing her to finish out her term.....ugh.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)and her Authoritarianism is going to doom the party if she stays in days longer.
She needs to exit as gracefully as she can before another disaster occurs.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and a clear and present danger to the Democratic Party.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)have been scheduled. interestingly enough, the exact number that clinton wanted.
hmmmmm.......
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)for the GE if Hillary wins the Primary. My question if during the GE you were to write in Bernie and enough of his followers did could he still win?