2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton won strategically by keeping Biden out of the game
She also won tactically by having the most airtime in a race where her opponent lacks her name recognition.
riversedge
(70,441 posts)probably rethink it right now. Also yes, she did have more airtime--saw that somewhere. She was in command of the major issues.
msongs
(67,496 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)I think many in the party wanted Biden in the mix just in case Hillary started to spiral given Bgazi and Egazi. I think the big decider, ironically was Kevin McCarthy.
senz
(11,945 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)Thanks Sean, karma is a motherfucker!!!
enid602
(8,670 posts)And why in the world would Fox Management decide to air it? I don't think it was live.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)And, yeah, shit for brains
winstars
(4,220 posts)1939
(1,683 posts)In case Hillary "face plants" during the primary season/
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)... "keep Biden out of the game"?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I'm no fan of Hillary, but she did okay tonight and didn't give Jo any valid reason to "rescue" the Democrats who are inclined to the centrist views .....Only reason for him to run now would be his own desire to be President and that would be a hard sell.
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)I hear what you're saying - I don't agree, but I hear you.
But the OP stated that "Clinton won strategically by keeping Biden out of the game", which would make no sense if meant to convey Biden not entering the race afterwards, for any reason.
It conveys the notion that HRC has somehow kept Biden from running at all - or kept him from participating in the first debate.
That's why I'm asking the question of the OP. Seems a very odd thing for someone to say.
hill2016
(1,772 posts)Clinton won by sucking air out of Biden's potential run.
pls see this article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/14/does-clintons-debate-win-take-the-air-out-of-bidens-balloon/
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)... Biden waiting-in-the-wings bullshit. The fact that CNN was advertising the idea that they had a podium ready for Biden in case he showed up (yeah, like that was gonna happen) was yet another chapter in a story concocted by the MSM to keep the horse-race meme alive and well.
This "Joe is ready to step-in if Hillary blows it" nonsense has never made any sense, and has never had any facts to back it up. Since HRC announced, this non-story has been circulated - always with quotes from "someone who knows", "someone close to the situation", yadda yadda - another "some people are saying" narrative that equates to absolute bullshit.
HRC has been the front-runner from the beginning, and remains so. And yet this ridiculous notion that "party officials are worried" (always unnamed) about her status, and her ability to hold onto her many, many supporters has been promoted as though it has any basis in reality.
I think Biden has made it quite clear since the untimely death of his son that he has no intention of running - and the thought of him launching a campaign this late in the game is beyond ridiculous.
In short, there is no "potential Biden run" to suck the air out of.