So now there are people on DU who don't think Sanders handled it like a real politician would

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

LOL. I guess Americans, even the supposedly progressive ones, really just want that game show host to smooth it over as much as they say they don't.

[riversedge]

1. This Will Keep Happening Until Bernie Sanders Learns

I just wonder what would have happened had he handled it like candidate O'M did?


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Al Giordano

19 hours ago


https://www.tsu.co/AlGiordano/75250428


This Will Keep Happening Until Bernie Sanders Learns

..........................But neither the candidate nor too many of his supporters have used any of this as a learning moment, and yet they act all surprised that it happened again today.

Listen up, white progressives and repeat after me: Nobody can win the Democratic nomination for president without significant black and latino support. It is a mathematical impossibility. I know the math. I've studied it. Close readers over the years know how well I know it. Your guy cannot - will not - win until he changes the way both he and his supporters react when a speech is interrupted.

A guy I follow on Twitter put it this way: Remember when Barack Obama had to prove himself to white people? Uh huh?..................... Every candidate has to prove him or herself with all of these demographics, or no White House.

This campaign is not about you getting your "Bernie fan boy experience" uninterrupted at a campaign rally. And you don't get to shout down protesters who want your candidate to lead more with their priorities. You don't get to yell, as one Sanders supporter did in Seattle today, "Tase them!" You don't get to say "Bernie marched with Martin Luther King" or "he has done more for your people than those hecklers ever did."

And you absolutely don't get to do it when just months ago you cheered the LGBT heckler at Obama's White House event, when you cheered every time the white ladies of Code Pink did it, when you whined and complained about Obama for six years not giving you your "hope and change" cookies as you define them.

You know why you don't get that cookie? .................

Instead too many of you are on Twitter right now whitesplaining and lecturing and talking down to black folks and people of all hues who happen to see this through the lens of the same team. Oh, yeah, that's a real bright idea for winning this campaign. Let's go on Twitter and troll the black people about how they don't understand Bernie.

Bernie handled it badly again today. He left the stage and went shaking hands among the white people in the crowd. He told a reporter that the protesters "don't want to listen to anything." Just like in Phoenix, he ran.

Contrast that with how Martin O'Malley handled the Black Lives Matter protest in Phoenix. He shut up, sat down, listened, listened a lot more, went throughout the conference all damn day seeking to listen to people of color who would talk with him. And since then he has put out the most progressive and detailed policy proposals on controlling police violence, prison and criminal justice reform and related matters. You don't see people protesting at his rallies. They probably will soon enough, but he'll know how to respond, unlike your guy.

And sure, Hillary Clinton doesn't have public rallies.............

[whatchamacallit]

6. Lol what a silly douchebag

Al Giordano is.

[riversedge]

8. Do you wonder what might have happened? --if Bernie would

have responded as O'M did? I wonder what kind of dialogue would have perused.

[beam me up scottie]

10. The protester who disrupted the Seattle rally is a right wing fundy Palin supporter.

I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack" Who is BLMS's Marissa "Johnson" Jenae?

Anyone claiming she targeted Bernie because of what happened at NRN is either naive or dishonest.

[whatchamacallit]

11. I know what would have happened

BLM would have found another shortcoming, and another, and another ad infinitum... I no longer buy that this group is legit, so fuck being extorted by them and forced to dance at the ends of their stings.

[Vattel]

9. Man that Giordano is an idiot. Like Bernie has an obligation to put up

with people calling him a white supremacist. Fuck that bullshit.

[daredtowork]

21. And when the person hijacking the stage represents moving the AA vote to the GOP?

White politicians absolutely have to court the African American vote. It's not great thing that our realistic options are once more limited to white candidates on the Democratic side. I was really hoping Barbara Lee would be in this picture.

But it's going to crazytown to suggest Democratic candidates seeking to run for the President of the United States should give up the stage every time an African American youth stands up and yells, because as we have seen from this example, that African American youth may prefer that the African American vote not go to the Democratic Party at all.

Therefore, the negotiations with #BLM are going to have to take place off-stage first. I do hope such negotiations occur, but it makes no sense to offer up a venue for GOP recruitment just because the diversity of tactics speaker happens to be African American.

[beam me up scottie]

2. Look at them closely, if they support Hillary or O'Malley consider the source.

We all know if the women had shoved and screamed at their candidate they'd be singing a different tune.

And if he had been rude and/or had them arrested they would be screaming bloody murder about that.

They're opportunists, like vultures circling overhead waiting for a kill.

[haikugal]

3. Totally...it's transparent and really disingenuous.

[beam me up scottie]

5. Anyone who uses the rw talking point "white supremist liberals/progressives" too.

They're stirring the shit and hoping none of it gets on their candidate.

[DanTex]

4. What do you have against O'Malley?

He's running on basically the same platform as Bernie. Is just not being Bernie enough to make him part of the grand conspiracy?

[beam me up scottie]

7. I like O'Malley.

It's some of his supporters here I have a problem with.

Not all of them, quite a few supporters on all sides have kept it classy.

[Ken Burch]

12. He's a hypocrite on police violence, big time.

Why should anyone trust his "plan" on this now when he never did a damn thing to protect black lives in Baltimore? As mayor there, he treated blacks, especially young black males(the primary target for police homicide)just like Bloomberg, Giuliani, and Koch treated them in
NYC, pretty much like Daley the First treated them in Chicago, and really, not much better than Frank Rizzo treated them in Phillie back in the day.

Until he apologizes for ever doing "Broken Windows" and zero tolerance, O'Malley can't be trusted.

And there's no reason to use O'Malley as the "Stop Bernie" candidate...there's no reason to see Bernie as someone who needs to be stopped.

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. 100% correct. If Bernie had them physically denied access to the stage, DUers would be screaming

"Bernie Assaulted BLM!" and if he had them arrested or physically removed the very same thing would have been posted.

[beam me up scottie]

17. He's damned if he lets them speak and damned if he doesn't.

The spectacle yesterday is being used by "concerned" Hillary/O'Malley supporters who couldn't wait to tell us exactly what Bernie did to deserve it and how he handled it all wrong.

Except when you look outside of GD P and DU in general Bernie isn't the one being criticized.

And he had a damned good rally last night and is having another one right now.

Go Bernie !

[Persondem]

13. I will go ahead and say something sacreligious ... Sanders' actions were not presidential

The president of the USA, or a person who would be president, should have the gravitas, the wherewithal, the strength of character to turn such an event around. If he cannot handle a couple of small time hecklers, can't find his voice, can't look them in the eye and have something useful, strong and fair to say, how would do in room with Putin or Netanyahu ... or even Boehner?

At this time he is not presidential material. He may grow into it ... some, ... during the campaign. But he may have peaked as a US Senator ... and there's nothing wrong with that.

[artislife]

15. You hope. ..nt

[Armstead]

16. Did you watch the fucking video?

Sanders handled it in a totally correct way. Step aside and don't engage with those who only wanted ti hear their own voices and drown out everyone else.

A couple of hyped up immature egomaniacs, momentarily drunk on their own perception of power with absolutely no intention of having a "dialogue." It was more Jerry Springer than anything remotely resembling political engagement. They've watched too many reality TV shows is the impression.

[Persondem]

20. If Sanders is going to let 2 pushy loudmouths shut him up then he does NOT have

what it takes to confront loudmouth politicians who have bigger egos and bigger mouths. He will have to show more spine if this happens again. If he does, great. He learned and adjusted.

But I do not think that being so meek and giving way in such a public forum is at all presidential. It is possible to defuse such situations while leaving everyone's dignity relatively intact. That's leadership.

And I didn't know it was a "fucking" video. It looked like a political rally to me, not porn.

[Armstead]

22. He was dignified.

I suppose he should have stuck his nose in the face of two people stading in his face relentlessly shrieking and pointing refusing to take a breath, much less allow anyone else to speak, and responded in kind by yelling over them in a Springer like display.

"Shut UP! Shut UP! or I'll SHUT YOU DOWN!"

Instead he stepped back, let them have their say. Let them spew their crap. Not the best option but a lot more dignified.

[Skwmom]

18. I think he handled it amazingly well. They were screaming and shouting, trying to upset him

and everyone else. I saw a black women with a pretty decent camera in the footage. I'm sure they would have loved to get footage of Bernie or someone else losing their temper with the BLM people.

[JEB]

19. The whole thing smells like a rat and Bernie

handled it well. The media (bought and paid for) is looking for their Dean scream moment.

[AgingAmerican]

23. The only question

Is were they sent by Hillary's campaign, or were they sent by Sarah Palin, whom they openly support?

I would surmise probably both, since both support the oligarchy and the status quo.