Where was Hillary?

[Exilednight]

I keep seeing these threads about how "poorly" Bernie performed at NN. It was faux outrage by the protestors at best, self grandizing assholes at worst.

Regardless of what you think of his performance, at least he showed up.

Why was Hillary so scared to show up?

[still_one]

1. How unusual. This is the first thread I have seen on this subject................

Today

[Thinkingabout]

2. Hillary was in a Democrat engagement in Arkansas previously scheduled

Trying to engage with voters to return the state from red to blue. From the treatment given to O'Malley who did attend but was not able to give a statement she spent her time wisely.

[Snotcicles]

7. I read it was a fundraiser. nt

[Exilednight]

13. Shows where her interests lie.

[JaneyVee]

14. A fundraiser for Democratic party.

[RobertEarl]

37. An old dem party

A party touting the old democrats who were for slavery and removal of the Indians party. I bet the Koch brothers had a nice big table.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251463620

[stevenleser]

59. Anyone unfamiliar with what a Jefferson Jackson dinner is shouldnt opine on Democratic Party

politics.

[Thinkingabout]

17. Yes it also included a fund raiser, what is the problem?

[cascadiance]

30. Conveniently timed so that it gave her an excuse for NRN that was scheduled a long time ago...

Just like so many things where she avoids making commitments on issues or at being at certain events if she feels like it would be too difficult to her to respond to people asking questions in those settings or on those opinions.

Quite the opposite of Bernie who doesn't shy away from things, is pretty consistently vocal and responsive on his stances and on responses he has to questions on his stances. He can be that way, as it doesn't take long to measure what he feels the voters want from him and what his conscience and personal values dictate what his statements to be, where Hillary acts like she's waiting for a poll or some call from a campaign contributor before she can comment on things or be some place, or perhaps decide to avoid certain issues or venues altogether.

[Thinkingabout]

34. Watching O'MALLEY unable to give bis speech does not look good on their part.

It is okay to have protesters but still allow the speaker to speak. They should have delayed until the meeting got under control but instead they rushed O'Malley off stage. It was a waste of time and effort for O'Malley. At least Hillary was allowed to speak at the Arkansas Democratic meeting and since she was booed off stage before I would not have accepted a follow up invitation, she used her time wisely.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. Exactly! How conveeeeenient!

[Historic NY]

52. Listen nothing forced them to go to Netroots...

they went. It being made to sound like its suppose to be some sort of pilgrimage.


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/19/hillary-clinton-criticizes-republicans-in-arkansas-homecoming/

[840high]

28. It was.

[Exilednight]

12. Yeah, it has nothing to do with being booed last time she showed up.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2014/04/29/hillary-not-ready-for-netroots

[JaneyVee]

15. Yet that's the reason people are using for why...

Bernie cancelled his meeting.

[Thinkingabout]

19. After the treatment O'Malley received I would boycott it in the future. Total discourteous to

Invite someone and they were not able to give a prepared speech and then rushed off stage. What a waste of Tim and effort on O'Malley's time and effort. NN lost control.

[Exilednight]

27. If Hillary is the leader she claims to be, then a few

Dissenters should be no match for her.

[Buns_of_Fire]

31. I think NRN will be hard-pressed to lure candidates in the future. nt

[Thinkingabout]

36. I think you might be right, I would not accept an invitation back there.

[whatchamacallit]

3. Maybe this will help

[Bobbie Jo]

18. Exactly.

Keep it up...

[Trajan]

35. I have read Harmony and Counterpoint

They were constant companions during my teens, when I fancied myself a future composer in training ...

I gotta get that book ..

[whatchamacallit]

39. You probably had a Hindemith book or two as well

It's been so long I'm not even sure if I still have any of them😜

[Beacool]

4. Scared?

How about posting facts and not assumptions?

Hillary declined the invitation. She had a previous engagement that she had accepted attending.

[Exilednight]

8. Yes. Scared.

[JaneyVee]

16. No. Previous engagement. Stop lying.

[Exilednight]

23. Yeah, forget the fact she was booed in 2007.

[JaneyVee]

24. So its your opinion and not fact?

Because your answer seemed pretty matter of fact.

[Exilednight]

26. It's a fact. She had a chance to show that she supported

Liberal causes and chickened out of showing up so she could collect checks from big money donors.

[Thinkingabout]

38. What happened to O'Malley's opportunity?

[okasha]

42. Those checks

are for the Arkansas Democratic Party, not her campaign. But don't let mere facts get in the way of your conspiracy theory

[Metric System]

46. Sanders supporters don't seem to care much about the DNC or the down-ticket Dems. I mean, they keep

saying Bernie will have huge coat-tails, but they also brag about refusing to donate to the DNC, which I assume is actively involved in helping Democrats get elected nationwide.

[okasha]

63. Fantasy.

The ability to carry down ticket dems into office is going to be crucial this election cycle. That will require money at both state and national levels. Hillary's earning her keep. Sanders isn't.

[stevenleser]

61. Yep, see my #59 above. The Jefferson Jackson dinner is one of the most important events for

the state Democratic party in each state every year.

[840high]

29. A fundraiser.

[Beacool]

43. You're way too funny.

Hillary afraid of a bunch of LW bloggers? Please, for years this woman ate Republicans for breakfast and spit them out.

[Thinkingabout]

20. Facts like previous engagements are unimportant and NN did not exert any control.

[Snotcicles]

5. I can't answer. That question. I could speculate. But I'll refrain. nt

[JI7]

6. she was giving directions to the blm in their earpiece

[zappaman]

33. Finally the truth!

[Scootaloo]

9. "Why was Hillary so scared to show up?"

'cause she got booed at Netroots in 2007

Which all of her supporters then felt was hideous, unconscionable, and totally uncalled-for.

[Thinkingabout]

21. What was "hideous, unconscionable, and totally uncalled-for." was the treatment allowed to occur

When it was O'Malley's opportunity to speak, appeared to me they had no intention to allow O'Malley to speak because he would deliver a good message. NN event was a waste of O'MALLEY's time and effort. It was wasted.

[Exilednight]

25. This thread isn't about O'Malley; it's about Hillary not showing up.

[Thinkingabout]

40. Showing up where? At Netroots event they lost control? The inability of O'Malley to speak is a big

Issue. Netroots does not provide a venue for invited guest to speak. She made much better use of her time, I would look for less acceptances of invitations in the future for Netroots.

[Beacool]

44. Not really.

Most of us didn't give a damn about Netroots.

[whatchamacallit]

10. Emma E. Booker Elementry School

[Zorra]

11. 1) Bernie and Martin would have made her look like a fool, or

[Thinkingabout]

22. Fool? The inability to allow O'Malley to speak does not speak well for NN. Delay the program to

Allow O'Malley to speak.

[Beacool]

45. Seriously?

O'Malley was interrupted and not allowed to continue, while Sanders simply got up and left.

Who looked more foolish?

Hillary, on the other hand, was raising funds for AR Democrats. She was actually doing something productive, as opposed to kissing the posteriors of LW activists.

[Autumn]

64. No Bernie didn't get up and leave, the host cut Bernies time short due to the protesting

that used up the allotted time, and I would hope than none of our Democratic candidates ever go there again.

[Beacool]

66. Then why the criticism of Hillary?

I think that these people were rude. They didn't allow either candidate to speak. They could have voiced their concerns after O'Malley and Sanders were done speaking.

[LuvLoogie]

54. Except that they didn't.

Hillary Clinton is running her campaign. Not Bernie, not Martin, not NRN, not BLM.

Oh and that 30 to 50 point lead she has in the polls? That's the result of her years of service and relationship building.

You underestimate her.

[zappaman]

32. She was in Arkansas.

Where did you read she was scared?

[Thinkingabout]

41. They didn't, just something to criticize.

[Exilednight]

50. Yep, she was in Arkansas hiding from liberals.

[seveneyes]

47. Out of range of the blm

A victim of opportunity.

[mimi85]

48. Enough already!

These back and forth Bernie vs Hillary threads are getting so tedious.

[Exilednight]

49. Then don't read them.

[mimi85]

56. Hard to avoid on DU, which is why I don't visit much anymore.

[LuvLoogie]

53. This is her fifth national campaign. Afraid?!

Hillary has been in the fire since the 90s. And she has been building relationships across the country and across the globe.

She is busy helping other Democrats. She is gathering data.

I like him, but Bernie is preaching. He's used to holding court on Thom Hartman's radio program, saying the exact same things week after week, over and over again to a sympathetic audience.

Yeah, they were ambushed at NRN, but it happens. Welcome to the National Spotlight.

[Exilednight]

55. That doesn't explain why she didn't show up. She was booed in 2007 and

Went to Arkansas instead. She obviously believes that cashing checks is more important than an unpaid Q & A session.

[NCTraveler]

57. "Why was Hillary so scared to show up?"

Kind of took away any chance at an honest discussion by adding that. What you call fear, everyone else calls intelligence. If you really care where she was, which it is clear from you op you don't, she was working to turn a red state blue. I'm sure you can find some opposition to that as well.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. Not deliberately walking into an ambush doesn't just demonstrate political acumen...

Not deliberately walking into an ambush doesn't just demonstrate political acumen...It's demonstrates common sense...

[NCTraveler]

60. So many of these "questions" being asked by Sanders and Hillary supporters....

So many of these "questions" being asked by Sanders and Hillary supporters are in complete opposition to common sense. Its like common sense is an enemy from their childhood and they feel the need to beat it to death. I wish they would start posing these foolish "questions" toward O'Malley. These are great opportunities to get the record out. Only one Sanders supporter has been willing to insinuate O'Malley to be a racist on multiple occasions. And they just aren't debate quality. Come on. Bring on the foolish attacks. lol

[lsufan59]

62. Where was Hillary?

hiding she says she don't need to campaign to win.

[DCBob]

65. Another good reason to have confidence in Hillary as our nominee in the general.

She wont be tricked into a ambush by some wiley GOP charlatans intent on making a fool out of her.