2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Suggests the Minimum Wage Is a Local Issue
Source: Truthdig
Though she has declined to say what she thinks is the ideal national minimum wage, the Democratic presidential candidate has implied that it might differ from place to placeand thus she would not push for an increase if she were president.
The Guardian reports:
I support the local efforts that are going on that are making it possible for people working in certain localities to actually earn $15, Clinton said in a response to a question from a BuzzFeed News reporter on Thursday while campaigning in New Hampshire.
I think part of the reason that the Congress and very strong Democratic supporters of increasing the minimum wage are trying to debate and determine whats the national floor is because there are different economic environments. And what you can do in Los Angeles or in New York may not work in other places.
Democrats in Congress have put forward proposals in the House and the Senate to raise the federally mandated minimum wage to $12 an hour by 2020. The federal minimum wage has been $7.25 since July 2009. While she has previously said that US wages need to be higher, Clinton has not yet revealed whether she is more inclined to support a national minimum wage of $12 an hour that of $15 an hour.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/17/hillary-clinton-minimum-wage-cities-states-small-businesses
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I think a national "nominal minimum wage" could be used as a baseline, with locality adjustments based on local cost of living. It would still be a federal minimum wage, but vary by local cost of living.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)adjustment. Physicians in NYC get more than Mississippi for the same service. Interestingly, Congress decided not to recognize the entire difference in CIL so as to add a little boost to rural states.
In any event, we need to do something that can pass our GOP dominated Congress.
London Lover Man
(371 posts)$15 should be a minimum wage everywhere. Clinton supporters cannot support her if their issues is minimum wage increase. Clinton has failed MASSIVELY.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)$15 dollars/ hr in the city is peanuts. Where i live? It'not really bad at all.
I think a minimum wage that reflects local cost of livign is NOT bad idea.
London Lover Man
(371 posts)I didn't say that.
I agree that big cities needs adjusted living wage to reflect the cost of living - I support $25/hour (as mentioned elsewhere) for bigger cities like LA, NY, Chicago, DC...
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)You didn't qualify it, and I'm not a mind reader.
The government already calculates cost of living for localities. It would be fairly easy to index the wage to the local cost of living, and index increases to the CPI, so we don't go through this mess regularly.
If it makes a BiG Mac cost $8, then so be it. No corporate subsidies for starvation wages.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)It will have to be higher in areas with higher COLAs.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)federally mandated wages. Hopefully many states will go higher but most would not even like the $10.10 let alone more.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Clinton should show us some apartments in Chappaqua... or in neighboring Edgemont, Scarsdale, White Plains, Eastchester, Ardsley.... ( Yes. I think I've got it all ... i.e. all four corners....covered) where someone ( or some WORKING COUPLE ) making 8.75 can afford to live.
Your move, Madame Secretary.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)so you have just proven her point.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)They have theirs screw us.
diabeticman
(3,121 posts)and cities raising wages and other nearby cities and states not doing that. How soon are we going to see people moving to where the higher wages are. What happens to the cities that slowly abandon? What happens to those who can't follow the hire pay.
Sorry call me old fashion but this is something I expect to hear from a republican candidate NOT a democratic candidate.
hedda_foil
(16,371 posts)I can't wait for her to do the"all lives matter tap dance" again. She and her innumerable consultants are all about political tactics first, last and always.
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wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I'm not sure that's quite the same as saying there shouldn't be national policies that regulate firearms to deal with different firearms issues of urban and rural areas or that gun ownership, use etc should only be local.
Statistics from the DOJ certainly back Sanders on the notion that urban vs rural issues with rates and types of gun deaths, gun violence and accidents are different between those areas.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)While Bernie is doing everything he can to help women, Hillary is once again reminding us that just being one is not enough.
abakan
(1,819 posts)and adjusted up for areas where it is still not a living wage. The government adjusts wages up for many places where the cost of living is high. If they can do it for their workers they can do it for everybody.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Not Good Enough, Hillary.
abakan
(1,819 posts)There are many things she isn't full throatily in favor of, that I don't understand.
I didn't like Hillary last time and I don't like her any more this time. Bernie is my choice.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I don't understand it either.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)she's just a mouthpiece for the well-to-do, and even the thought of a $15/hr minimum wage gives them heartburn. They would rather eliminate federal minimum wage requirements altogether and leave it up to the individual states as to whether or not they want to enact a state level minimum wage. Then businesses can move to those states where there is no minimum wage and pay the locals on par with their Vietnamese counterparts.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Someone get the smelling salts!
They're on to the 'you just want a pony from Bernie' meme again.
So transparent.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)to discourage Bernie supporters in any way they can. I think they will not achieve their goal though and probably should start looking into tinkering with the Diebold equipment early as I doubt they're currently programmed to shift a sufficient percentage of votes to swing a landslide election.
abakan
(1,819 posts)I want a president that hasn't been bought and paid for. Besides, I don't have any place to put a pony.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The folks downthread don't seem to have a problem with the idea.
They want to give up now because fighting is TOO HARD.
Going to the mat for working people is "pandering", you know.
I guess the haves really don't give a shit about the have nots.
abakan
(1,819 posts)I do not care what they say or do. I have no time for the hair on fire bs that sometimes passes for serious discussion.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)from rural to urban but it's a big step.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Sure, in San Francisco, NYC or LA or other high cost of living places, that is reasonable.
But places like where I live, where a nice home costs $150,000, where skilled craftsmen make $17-$20 and hour and
an EMT makes $13.50 an hour...
It needs to be based on the cost of living of where you live.
But it really doesn't matter what Sanders wants. It will never happen in the near future. Just another of his pandering promises to people who actually think wanting something is the same as doing.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)anyone promising to raise the federal minimum to over twice what it is now is just blowin' smoke.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Bernie would be able to do it, no problemo. He's willing to "use the bully pulpit" and "threaten the Republicans" who don't go along with his plans with "ousting them from office" if they don't comply.
Surely you can see how that would work. It's ALL so simple in Bernie-world.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)to we little people to back him up..and not be as cowed...that's when local politics become more powerful. JMO
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Right on!
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)On the other hand, if we're all in, we all stand to gain (?)
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)but the wind just isn't blowing hard enough at the moment for her to figure out which way it's coming from. When it does, we'll be the first to know how she really feels and has felt all along.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)I think laying out the kind of world someone wants to work to see is preferable to "realism" that implies nothing can be done.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)You Go Girl!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)State you are in. Have you seen the price of meat lately?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)wage. The federal minimum wage has not changed for many years.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)There's hollrin' at your friends to do.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Did not have their permission. That is why I think Bernie can at least a bit more done. He'll be more accountable to the people. There is a lot more to this than just a political platform.
We've never known a president who was not bought and paid for.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)for government employees?
Why can't a President put in all government contracts a specified minimal wage?
Unions bargain for wages and benefits, why can't the government,"We The People" negotiate with these Greedy corporations feeding at the public trough?