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I have been forced to move this here. (Original Post) abakan Jul 2015 OP
tell it, Bernie, tell it!! kath Jul 2015 #1
Huge K&R! MissDeeds Jul 2015 #2
This is the proper place not GD Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #3
Exactly! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #4
No. It was fine there RobertEarl Jul 2015 #5
It reaches more people here...lately. n/t Sheepshank Jul 2015 #6
You might be right Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #8
"limit his reach" ? snooper2 Jul 2015 #9
My thoughts exactly... abakan Jul 2015 #13
Careful, abakan RobertEarl Jul 2015 #16
Thanks for the warning... abakan Jul 2015 #23
2nd sentence RobertEarl Jul 2015 #28
Anyone judging on post quantity is part of the problem. The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #46
Thanks for the reply abakan Jul 2015 #52
Troof~ fleabiscuit Jul 2015 #76
Gopher! Farhad retired from the U of Minnesota just a month or so ago. SomeGuyInEagan Jul 2015 #78
GOPHER!!! The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #84
Well, the Donald Trump threads aren't supporting Donald Trump. George II Jul 2015 #17
Why do you hate Sanders' recs? RobertEarl Jul 2015 #20
Here we go with the subjective questions with the built in conclusion again. George II Jul 2015 #57
I get it now RobertEarl Jul 2015 #58
Still with the off-base totally incorrect assumptions. Why are YOU so angry? George II Jul 2015 #61
I only quoted you RobertEarl Jul 2015 #62
........you can't finish my thought?????? George II Jul 2015 #64
Proceed George RobertEarl Jul 2015 #65
Well what appears to you is way off base - you should stick to what you're good at (not sure... George II Jul 2015 #68
This OP KnRed by a roving member of the "Ten To One Gang" chknltl Jul 2015 #43
Indeed RobertEarl Jul 2015 #59
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10134641 George II Jul 2015 #60
Is Sanders not a candidate for the primaries next year? George II Jul 2015 #15
He is. So is Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, and countless others. abakan Jul 2015 #18
I suggest you read up on the rationale behind the creation of "General Discussion: Primaries" forum. George II Jul 2015 #22
GD: P is for the Dem primaries only KamaAina Jul 2015 #26
He is a US Senator RobertEarl Jul 2015 #19
Stupid comment and equally inane question.... George II Jul 2015 #24
I see you are all bent out of shape RobertEarl Jul 2015 #25
Where do you get the insane idea that I'm in favor or censoring statements against republicans? George II Jul 2015 #27
Hey there RobertEarl Jul 2015 #29
Thank you abakan Jul 2015 #31
What's happened here is RobertEarl Jul 2015 #34
So this is what you make up in your head? zappaman Jul 2015 #55
Like you say, you are behind me RobertEarl Jul 2015 #56
You're not upsetting me and I'm not angry, I'm annoyed that people can twist others' comments... George II Jul 2015 #33
It was not a campaign post. RobertEarl Jul 2015 #35
Sure seems you want to misinterpret others' thoughts and THEN start an argument. And...... George II Jul 2015 #69
People are getting touchy awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #41
GD is full of republican posts these days. RobertEarl Jul 2015 #42
No truer words spoken madokie Jul 2015 #7
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #10
Great! Keep it up Bernie! sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #11
It was a fair cop. Its also a great post. marble falls Jul 2015 #12
Go Bernie Go! SoapBox Jul 2015 #14
It's a great photo but please understand that we need to keep the Primaries LynneSin Jul 2015 #21
It's not a primary issue. He's attacking the GOP. Gore1FL Jul 2015 #30
Locked in GD - that is a loser move~looks like somebodies team is losing, lol! grahamhgreen Jul 2015 #32
Um, no. Anything about Hillary, O'Malley or Bernie in GD gets locked. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #48
A big ole K&R stage left Jul 2015 #36
Bingo! valerief Jul 2015 #37
Didn't freedom used to mean freedom from the oppression applegrove Jul 2015 #38
It is typical republican bs abakan Jul 2015 #39
abakan Diclotican Jul 2015 #40
Thank You abakan Jul 2015 #45
abakan Diclotican Jul 2015 #47
So glad you live in Norway so that you were well taken care of and you're still here with us! scarletwoman Jul 2015 #53
scarletwoman Diclotican Jul 2015 #67
I'm sorry you have been ill. abakan Jul 2015 #77
abakan Diclotican Jul 2015 #79
I love Bernie as much as I love zentrum Jul 2015 #44
Good. So two places people can see it. Thank you!! n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #49
K&R Wherever it is, it is the truth. nt raouldukelives Jul 2015 #50
Bernie!!! peacebird Jul 2015 #51
Feel the Bern, it's the AntiKoch. 99Forever Jul 2015 #54
He is right. And we've all got to oppose this loudly and clearly lovemydog Jul 2015 #63
And when you talk about it Babel_17 Jul 2015 #66
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #70
The Koch Bros are trying to become America's third world dictators. Initech Jul 2015 #71
They learned frrom their father's business partner Joseph Stalin! cascadiance Jul 2015 #73
Did he really say this? I wonder. Android3.14 Jul 2015 #72
You didn't try very hard. delrem Jul 2015 #74
Thanks. Android3.14 Jul 2015 #75
I believe Kock parents were big in the John Birch Society Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #80
I don't think the public really knows about the Kochs Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #81
It's interesting how loads of posts that don't belong in GD are left alone, and some Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #82
I missed it in GD so thanks for reposting it here. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #83
Why don't more Democrats call out these tools of big money the way Bernie does? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #85
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. No. It was fine there
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:19 PM
Jul 2015

It was not a campaign item, it was a direct attack on republicans only.

DU sure has it's knickers in a twist over Bernie and desires to limit his reach.

abakan

(1,808 posts)
13. My thoughts exactly...
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jul 2015

It seems the Democratic primary is the one that must protected. The home page is covered with donald trump and I haven't seen one of those closed. I think it is bullshit.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
16. Careful, abakan
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:44 PM
Jul 2015

You will attract the wrath of some here who love to eat newbies.

Especially the roflmao posters.

abakan

(1,808 posts)
23. Thanks for the warning...
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

I not sure what the second sentence means, but thanks anyway.
I wanted to add this:
I'm not as new as you might think. I have been here since 2013. I don't post much because, I tire of the ugliness that comes from the people of which you speak. I read and comment from time to time, but I have found posting to be wholly unsatisfactory. I have no time for faceless, nameless, bullies who act as if they are the final word on any subject.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
28. 2nd sentence
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015

Was in reference to the replies which consist of the roflmao and usually nothing else. Be careful of them for they love to bait good solid democrats like yourself.

The Green Manalishi

(1,054 posts)
46. Anyone judging on post quantity is part of the problem.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

It's safe to assume that someone who attacks a low post count instead of the argument is not only not worth worrying about but probably a troll or an infiltrator. Yeah, someone with under 10 posts throwing a grenade, heat; someone sniveling about a low post count instead of addressing the argument of a 50 post poster - should be booted, tombstoned and branded a Republican.

Bernie:
the first time in my 54 year old life I will be able to vote for a TRUE Democrat instead of a corporatist shill.

abakan

(1,808 posts)
52. Thanks for the reply
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jul 2015

I think when some see a low post count, they automatically think the person is new. Not that, they aren't particularly chatty.
It cause me no distress.

I'm 63 and I am registering as a Democrat, for the first time, after a lifetime of being Independent. This is the first time voting in the primary is important, to me. Ordinarily I would just wait for the general election and vote the Democrat ticket. This time it matters, there is a real person running.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
76. Troof~
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jul 2015

Personally I feel the relative newbie is someone who hasn’t used Archie, Veronica, or a Gopher before Al invented the www internets; not post counts

SomeGuyInEagan

(1,515 posts)
78. Gopher! Farhad retired from the U of Minnesota just a month or so ago.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

Good guy.

Gopher just blew me away when I first saw it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Well, the Donald Trump threads aren't supporting Donald Trump.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:45 PM
Jul 2015

In my mind the moderators have been TOO "liberal" in putting up with the flood of Sanders threads that show up on the home page because of the cadre of "DU REC-ers"

George II

(67,782 posts)
57. Here we go with the subjective questions with the built in conclusion again.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jul 2015

When did I say I "hated" Sanders' recs?

Here's a question you already dodged once today - have you stopped beating your wife?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
65. Proceed George
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jul 2015

It appears to me, to belabor this point, that you feel put upon by too many Bernie recs.

But please, proceed to finish your thought. I'd really like to read what you have to say about "In my mind the moderators have been TOO "liberal""

George II

(67,782 posts)
68. Well what appears to you is way off base - you should stick to what you're good at (not sure...
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:58 PM
Jul 2015

...what that might be) and step away from the psychoanalysis. You're terrible at that.

And nice job posting the FIRST half of a sentence of mine to try to make me look bad, leaving off the second half of the sentence. Entirely disingenuous, but that's been your M. O. since you started stalking my posts. Over the years I've seen a few people pull tricks like that, and not surprisingly they've all been conservatives.

Quite honestly, I don't give a shit.....have a good day.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
43. This OP KnRed by a roving member of the "Ten To One Gang"
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

Um....one would think if 90% of a forum was for something, a whole bunch of KnRs by the members of that forum would wind up supporting it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6592890

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
59. Indeed
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jul 2015

One should not be surprised with these type of numbers>

If you could magically pick the next president, who would you pick??
850 votes,

Hillary.... 87 (10%)
Bernie.... 763 (90%)

abakan

(1,808 posts)
18. He is. So is Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, and countless others.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jul 2015

As long as they are not democratic candidates, they are allowed all over the site. Donald Trump has been on the home page for the last five days. I see it as a double standard.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. I suggest you read up on the rationale behind the creation of "General Discussion: Primaries" forum.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
26. GD: P is for the Dem primaries only
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:59 PM
Jul 2015

as I learned when my thread on one of the repukes got locked there.

edit: It never occurred to me until now that its creation might be a way for the pro-Hillary admins to herd the many Bernie supporters into a corral, but it sounds plausible.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
19. He is a US Senator
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jul 2015

And it was a direct attack on republicans.

Don't even tell me you don't like to see republicans attacked. That would not be wise. Many people have blocked this forum, and others who just read DU..GD would have seen that great statement, and now they won't. Does that make you happy?

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. Stupid comment and equally inane question....
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jul 2015

"Don't even tell me you don't like to see republicans attacked."

"GD would have seen that great statement, and now they won't. Does that make you happy?"

...almost as silly as this yes/no question I'm going to ask you: have you stopped beating your wife?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
25. I see you are all bent out of shape
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:57 PM
Jul 2015

That's too bad. Doesn't look good for your candidate to have supporters who are in favor of censoring statements against republicans. You should thinkaboutit.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. Where do you get the insane idea that I'm in favor or censoring statements against republicans?
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015

You've read the statement, I've read the statement, everyone commenting here AND many others have read the statement. It hasn't been censored, it's just been put in the correct forum.

Take it up with the moderators, don't insult me with your presumptive and dismissive characterizations of me.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
29. Hey there
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jul 2015

Sorry you are so upset and angry. I apologize for pissing you off, george.

But limiting free speech is not something I take lightly. As I said, had it been a campaign statement I would be fine with the censoring. But it was an attack on republicans only, therefore I say spread it far and wide; no censors needed.

abakan

(1,808 posts)
31. Thank you
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:13 PM
Jul 2015

I agree... I hate double standards. When I posted it I didn't even know I was doing anything more than posting something I felt was hitting the repubs with a dose of the truth. Primaries were not a thought. I am anti-Republicians not anti-Democrats no matter who they are.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
34. What's happened here is
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:24 PM
Jul 2015

For a long time there was but one candidate for the past 8 years, and now Bernie has shown up and now those supporters feel cornered by his campaign. Therefore they are lashing out. I suggest we go easy on them, but be firm. They will come around, and then posts about attacking republicans will again be allowed anywhere and everywhere.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. You're not upsetting me and I'm not angry, I'm annoyed that people can twist others' comments...
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jul 2015

...to suit their agenda.

The fact remains that what Sanders said IS on this site and many have read and commented upon it. Free speech hasn't been limited - and where's the censorship? (and don't dodge with another inane comment, please)

Would you feel the same way if it was originally posted in "Recreation" or "Sports" and was locked?

As I suggested to the OP, I suggest you read up on the rationale behind the creation of the "General Discussion: Primaries" forum. Maybe you'd understand better.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
35. It was not a campaign post.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:28 PM
Jul 2015

I guess you are in favor of banning the word 'Hillary' from being posted in GD?

Sure seems you want Bernie banned.

George II

(67,782 posts)
69. Sure seems you want to misinterpret others' thoughts and THEN start an argument. And......
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:03 PM
Jul 2015

......you've demonstrated a talent for asking stupidly loaded questions.

I think I'm going to do something I've never done before on this site in the ten years I've been here.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
42. GD is full of republican posts these days.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jul 2015

I think that as long as an OP is not campaign directed, quotes of Hillary attacking republicans should be allowed.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
14. Go Bernie Go!
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:42 PM
Jul 2015

Sorry you got shutdown over there...BUT, thank you for posting here!

I Loves Me Some Bernie.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
21. It's a great photo but please understand that we need to keep the Primaries
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jul 2015

in one place and other discussions for General Discussion.

Else we'd have two General Discussion chats overwhelmed with election chat and no place to discuss everything else going on in the world.

Some of us aren't 100% into the primaries just yet and like to go to a General Discussion for other issues

But great post and a K&R from me!

Gore1FL

(20,944 posts)
30. It's not a primary issue. He's attacking the GOP.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:13 PM
Jul 2015

This is totally unrelated to the primaries other than the person who said it is running for office.

abakan

(1,808 posts)
39. It is typical republican bs
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jul 2015

If you give small minded people power over other people, they will over reach and abuse the privilege, every time.
The peasants must learn to adapt.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
47. abakan
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jul 2015

abakan


I know the feeling - once - a long time ago - I got over 400 reqs becouse of a longer writing about my experience with Universal Health care - and it was even bad written, with more grammatical faults than the San-Andrea fault.... I had been really sick with pneumonia - kidney problems and a lot of other problems at the same time.. In the US I would either had been dead - or dreaded with more debt that I would ever be able to repay - in my native country - I was in hospital for 3 weeks - get well enough to get home - and had no debt to pay back - even if the medical needs had been intensive to say it least..

Diocletian

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
53. So glad you live in Norway so that you were well taken care of and you're still here with us!
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jul 2015

I just wanted to say that I'm always happy to see a post from you!

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
67. scarletwoman
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jul 2015

scarletwoman

Thank you, for your kind words - And yes - i was cared wel for - and is still around to tell the story about it


Diclotican

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
79. abakan
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:39 PM
Jul 2015

abakan

Im good now - but it was a rather unpleasent experience -but I got all the help I was in need of - without going broke... Universal health care do have some benefits over for profit healthcare..

Diclotican

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
66. And when you talk about it
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jul 2015

And when you talk about them, their power seems less frightening. Name them for what they do, and then defeat them at the polls.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
72. Did he really say this? I wonder.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jul 2015

I like Bernie, but I also distrust bullshit graphical "memes".

I did a search on "What the Republicans and the Koch brothers are very clear" and received the following.

Link to google search

"No results found for "what the republicans and the koch brothers are very clear""

Please provide a reference link for when Mr. Sanders said this.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
81. I don't think the public really knows about the Kochs
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:54 PM
Jul 2015

Some do but most would be horrified. I'm glad Bernie is highlighting this.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,759 posts)
82. It's interesting how loads of posts that don't belong in GD are left alone, and some
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:09 PM
Jul 2015

are subjected to enforcement of what are supposed to be the rules for all.

GO BERNIE!!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
83. I missed it in GD so thanks for reposting it here.
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jul 2015

He names names, doesn't he? The Kochs are going to be spending huge amounts of money to try to shut him up. We
see it already, and it shows how scared they are.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
85. Why don't more Democrats call out these tools of big money the way Bernie does?
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jul 2015

Why are they always willing to 'reach across the aisle' to try to negotiate with a bunch of extremists?

I don't think Bernie will be doing that when he is in the WH. He won't be compromising with bullies.

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