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Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:04 PM

I have been forced to move this here.

It was locked in GD.

Tell it, Yell it, Rub their faces in it, Bernie!

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Reply I have been forced to move this here. (Original post)
abakan Jul 2015 OP
kath Jul 2015 #1
MissDeeds Jul 2015 #2
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #3
CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #4
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #5
Sheepshank Jul 2015 #6
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #8
snooper2 Jul 2015 #9
abakan Jul 2015 #13
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #16
abakan Jul 2015 #23
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #28
The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #46
abakan Jul 2015 #52
fleabiscuit Jul 2015 #76
SomeGuyInEagan Jul 2015 #78
The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #84
George II Jul 2015 #17
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #20
George II Jul 2015 #57
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #58
George II Jul 2015 #61
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #62
George II Jul 2015 #64
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #65
George II Jul 2015 #68
chknltl Jul 2015 #43
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #59
George II Jul 2015 #60
George II Jul 2015 #15
abakan Jul 2015 #18
George II Jul 2015 #22
KamaAina Jul 2015 #26
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #19
George II Jul 2015 #24
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #25
George II Jul 2015 #27
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #29
abakan Jul 2015 #31
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #34
zappaman Jul 2015 #55
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #56
George II Jul 2015 #33
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #35
George II Jul 2015 #69
awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #41
RobertEarl Jul 2015 #42
madokie Jul 2015 #7
WillyT Jul 2015 #10
sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #11
marble falls Jul 2015 #12
SoapBox Jul 2015 #14
LynneSin Jul 2015 #21
Gore1FL Jul 2015 #30
grahamhgreen Jul 2015 #32
stevenleser Jul 2015 #48
stage left Jul 2015 #36
valerief Jul 2015 #37
applegrove Jul 2015 #38
abakan Jul 2015 #39
Diclotican Jul 2015 #40
abakan Jul 2015 #45
Diclotican Jul 2015 #47
scarletwoman Jul 2015 #53
Diclotican Jul 2015 #67
abakan Jul 2015 #77
Diclotican Jul 2015 #79
zentrum Jul 2015 #44
jtuck004 Jul 2015 #49
raouldukelives Jul 2015 #50
peacebird Jul 2015 #51
99Forever Jul 2015 #54
lovemydog Jul 2015 #63
Babel_17 Jul 2015 #66
Enthusiast Jul 2015 #70
Initech Jul 2015 #71
cascadiance Jul 2015 #73
Android3.14 Jul 2015 #72
delrem Jul 2015 #74
Android3.14 Jul 2015 #75
Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #80
Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #81
Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #82
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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:14 PM

1. tell it, Bernie, tell it!!

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:14 PM

2. Huge K&R!

 

Go Bernie!!!

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:15 PM

3. This is the proper place not GD

 

You tell them Bernie!!!!

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:16 PM

4. Exactly!

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:19 PM

5. No. It was fine there

 

It was not a campaign item, it was a direct attack on republicans only.

DU sure has it's knickers in a twist over Bernie and desires to limit his reach.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:21 PM

6. It reaches more people here...lately. n/t

 

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:24 PM

8. You might be right

 

But it does go well here

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:26 PM

9. "limit his reach" ?

 




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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:39 PM

13. My thoughts exactly...

It seems the Democratic primary is the one that must protected. The home page is covered with donald trump and I haven't seen one of those closed. I think it is bullshit.

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Response to abakan (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:44 PM

16. Careful, abakan

 

You will attract the wrath of some here who love to eat newbies.

Especially the roflmao posters.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:51 PM

23. Thanks for the warning...

I not sure what the second sentence means, but thanks anyway.
I wanted to add this:
I'm not as new as you might think. I have been here since 2013. I don't post much because, I tire of the ugliness that comes from the people of which you speak. I read and comment from time to time, but I have found posting to be wholly unsatisfactory. I have no time for faceless, nameless, bullies who act as if they are the final word on any subject.

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Response to abakan (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:00 PM

28. 2nd sentence

 

Was in reference to the replies which consist of the roflmao and usually nothing else. Be careful of them for they love to bait good solid democrats like yourself.

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Response to abakan (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:53 PM

46. Anyone judging on post quantity is part of the problem.

It's safe to assume that someone who attacks a low post count instead of the argument is not only not worth worrying about but probably a troll or an infiltrator. Yeah, someone with under 10 posts throwing a grenade, heat; someone sniveling about a low post count instead of addressing the argument of a 50 post poster - should be booted, tombstoned and branded a Republican.

Bernie:
the first time in my 54 year old life I will be able to vote for a TRUE Democrat instead of a corporatist shill.

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Response to The Green Manalishi (Reply #46)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:10 PM

52. Thanks for the reply

I think when some see a low post count, they automatically think the person is new. Not that, they aren't particularly chatty.
It cause me no distress.

I'm 63 and I am registering as a Democrat, for the first time, after a lifetime of being Independent. This is the first time voting in the primary is important, to me. Ordinarily I would just wait for the general election and vote the Democrat ticket. This time it matters, there is a real person running.

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Response to abakan (Reply #52)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 10:45 AM

76. Troof~

Personally I feel the relative newbie is someone who hasnt used Archie, Veronica, or a Gopher before Al invented the www internets; not post counts

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #76)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:34 PM

78. Gopher! Farhad retired from the U of Minnesota just a month or so ago.

Good guy.

Gopher just blew me away when I first saw it.

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #76)

Wed Jul 8, 2015, 09:33 AM

84. GOPHER!!!

Wow, now *THAT* takes me back......

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Response to abakan (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:45 PM

17. Well, the Donald Trump threads aren't supporting Donald Trump.

In my mind the moderators have been TOO "liberal" in putting up with the flood of Sanders threads that show up on the home page because of the cadre of "DU REC-ers"

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Response to George II (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:50 PM

20. Why do you hate Sanders' recs?

 

Do Bernie supporters make you sad and angry and frustrated?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:51 PM

57. Here we go with the subjective questions with the built in conclusion again.

When did I say I "hated" Sanders' recs?

Here's a question you already dodged once today - have you stopped beating your wife?

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Response to George II (Reply #57)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:54 PM

58. I get it now

 

You just have a problem with TOO liberal free speech.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #58)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:07 PM

61. Still with the off-base totally incorrect assumptions. Why are YOU so angry?

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Response to George II (Reply #61)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:09 PM

62. I only quoted you

 

Here it is:

"In my mind the moderators have been TOO "liberal"....."

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #62)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:11 PM

64. ........you can't finish my thought??????

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Response to George II (Reply #64)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:14 PM

65. Proceed George

 

It appears to me, to belabor this point, that you feel put upon by too many Bernie recs.

But please, proceed to finish your thought. I'd really like to read what you have to say about "In my mind the moderators have been TOO "liberal""

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #65)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:58 PM

68. Well what appears to you is way off base - you should stick to what you're good at (not sure...

...what that might be) and step away from the psychoanalysis. You're terrible at that.

And nice job posting the FIRST half of a sentence of mine to try to make me look bad, leaving off the second half of the sentence. Entirely disingenuous, but that's been your M. O. since you started stalking my posts. Over the years I've seen a few people pull tricks like that, and not surprisingly they've all been conservatives.

Quite honestly, I don't give a shit.....have a good day.

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Response to George II (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:25 PM

43. This OP KnRed by a roving member of the "Ten To One Gang"

Um....one would think if 90% of a forum was for something, a whole bunch of KnRs by the members of that forum would wind up supporting it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6592890

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Response to chknltl (Reply #43)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:56 PM

59. Indeed

 

One should not be surprised with these type of numbers>

If you could magically pick the next president, who would you pick??
850 votes,

Hillary.... 87 (10%)
Bernie.... 763 (90%)

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Response to George II (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:56 PM

60. http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10134641

A good read.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:43 PM

15. Is Sanders not a candidate for the primaries next year?

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Response to George II (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:48 PM

18. He is. So is Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, and countless others.

As long as they are not democratic candidates, they are allowed all over the site. Donald Trump has been on the home page for the last five days. I see it as a double standard.

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Response to abakan (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:51 PM

22. I suggest you read up on the rationale behind the creation of "General Discussion: Primaries" forum.

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Response to abakan (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:59 PM

26. GD: P is for the Dem primaries only

 

as I learned when my thread on one of the repukes got locked there.

edit: It never occurred to me until now that its creation might be a way for the pro-Hillary admins to herd the many Bernie supporters into a corral, but it sounds plausible.

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Response to George II (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:48 PM

19. He is a US Senator

 

And it was a direct attack on republicans.

Don't even tell me you don't like to see republicans attacked. That would not be wise. Many people have blocked this forum, and others who just read DU..GD would have seen that great statement, and now they won't. Does that make you happy?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:54 PM

24. Stupid comment and equally inane question....


"Don't even tell me you don't like to see republicans attacked."

"GD would have seen that great statement, and now they won't. Does that make you happy?"

...almost as silly as this yes/no question I'm going to ask you: have you stopped beating your wife?

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Response to George II (Reply #24)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:57 PM

25. I see you are all bent out of shape

 

That's too bad. Doesn't look good for your candidate to have supporters who are in favor of censoring statements against republicans. You should thinkaboutit.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:00 PM

27. Where do you get the insane idea that I'm in favor or censoring statements against republicans?

You've read the statement, I've read the statement, everyone commenting here AND many others have read the statement. It hasn't been censored, it's just been put in the correct forum.

Take it up with the moderators, don't insult me with your presumptive and dismissive characterizations of me.

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Response to George II (Reply #27)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:05 PM

29. Hey there

 

Sorry you are so upset and angry. I apologize for pissing you off, george.

But limiting free speech is not something I take lightly. As I said, had it been a campaign statement I would be fine with the censoring. But it was an attack on republicans only, therefore I say spread it far and wide; no censors needed.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #29)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:13 PM

31. Thank you

I agree... I hate double standards. When I posted it I didn't even know I was doing anything more than posting something I felt was hitting the repubs with a dose of the truth. Primaries were not a thought. I am anti-Republicians not anti-Democrats no matter who they are.

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Response to abakan (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:24 PM

34. What's happened here is

 

For a long time there was but one candidate for the past 8 years, and now Bernie has shown up and now those supporters feel cornered by his campaign. Therefore they are lashing out. I suggest we go easy on them, but be firm. They will come around, and then posts about attacking republicans will again be allowed anywhere and everywhere.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:23 PM

55. So this is what you make up in your head?

You're funnier than I thought.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #55)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:43 PM

56. Like you say, you are behind me

 

"zappaman (16,292 posts)
7. Atta boy Bob!

Behind ya all the way! "

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251428115#post7

Way, way behind.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #29)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:21 PM

33. You're not upsetting me and I'm not angry, I'm annoyed that people can twist others' comments...

...to suit their agenda.

The fact remains that what Sanders said IS on this site and many have read and commented upon it. Free speech hasn't been limited - and where's the censorship? (and don't dodge with another inane comment, please)

Would you feel the same way if it was originally posted in "Recreation" or "Sports" and was locked?

As I suggested to the OP, I suggest you read up on the rationale behind the creation of the "General Discussion: Primaries" forum. Maybe you'd understand better.

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Response to George II (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:28 PM

35. It was not a campaign post.

 

I guess you are in favor of banning the word 'Hillary' from being posted in GD?

Sure seems you want Bernie banned.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #35)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:03 PM

69. Sure seems you want to misinterpret others' thoughts and THEN start an argument. And......

......you've demonstrated a talent for asking stupidly loaded questions.

I think I'm going to do something I've never done before on this site in the ten years I've been here.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:05 PM

41. People are getting touchy

 

because the same thing could be said about most democratic politicians

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:11 PM

42. GD is full of republican posts these days.

 

I think that as long as an OP is not campaign directed, quotes of Hillary attacking republicans should be allowed.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:23 PM

7. No truer words spoken

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:30 PM

10. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

 


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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:33 PM

11. Great! Keep it up Bernie!

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:34 PM

12. It was a fair cop. Its also a great post.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:42 PM

14. Go Bernie Go!

Sorry you got shutdown over there...BUT, thank you for posting here!

I Loves Me Some Bernie.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:50 PM

21. It's a great photo but please understand that we need to keep the Primaries

in one place and other discussions for General Discussion.

Else we'd have two General Discussion chats overwhelmed with election chat and no place to discuss everything else going on in the world.

Some of us aren't 100% into the primaries just yet and like to go to a General Discussion for other issues

But great post and a K&R from me!

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:13 PM

30. It's not a primary issue. He's attacking the GOP.

This is totally unrelated to the primaries other than the person who said it is running for office.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:15 PM

32. Locked in GD - that is a loser move~looks like somebodies team is losing, lol!

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #32)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:57 PM

48. Um, no. Anything about Hillary, O'Malley or Bernie in GD gets locked. nt

 

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:31 PM

36. A big ole K&R

From Carolina. Give it to 'em good, Bernie.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:33 PM

37. Bingo!

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 05:58 PM

38. Didn't freedom used to mean freedom from the oppression

of the powerful?

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Response to applegrove (Reply #38)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:03 PM

39. It is typical republican bs

If you give small minded people power over other people, they will over reach and abuse the privilege, every time.
The peasants must learn to adapt.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:05 PM

40. abakan

abakan

Glad to be nr 100 to req this

Diclotican

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:49 PM

45. Thank You

I never got this many REC's before. I am appreciative.

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Response to abakan (Reply #45)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:56 PM

47. abakan

abakan


I know the feeling - once - a long time ago - I got over 400 reqs becouse of a longer writing about my experience with Universal Health care - and it was even bad written, with more grammatical faults than the San-Andrea fault.... I had been really sick with pneumonia - kidney problems and a lot of other problems at the same time.. In the US I would either had been dead - or dreaded with more debt that I would ever be able to repay - in my native country - I was in hospital for 3 weeks - get well enough to get home - and had no debt to pay back - even if the medical needs had been intensive to say it least..

Diocletian

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #47)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:14 PM

53. So glad you live in Norway so that you were well taken care of and you're still here with us!

I just wanted to say that I'm always happy to see a post from you!

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #53)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:22 PM

67. scarletwoman

scarletwoman

Thank you, for your kind words - And yes - i was cared wel for - and is still around to tell the story about it


Diclotican

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #47)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 12:58 PM

77. I'm sorry you have been ill.

I hope you improve soon, it is nice to have a kindred here. Be well.

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Response to abakan (Reply #77)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:39 PM

79. abakan

abakan

Im good now - but it was a rather unpleasent experience -but I got all the help I was in need of - without going broke... Universal health care do have some benefits over for profit healthcare..

Diclotican

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:29 PM

44. I love Bernie as much as I love

FDR.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:05 PM

49. Good. So two places people can see it. Thank you!! n/t

 

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:05 PM

50. K&R Wherever it is, it is the truth. nt

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:06 PM

51. Bernie!!!

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 07:19 PM

54. Feel the Bern, it's the AntiKoch.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:09 PM

63. He is right. And we've all got to oppose this loudly and clearly

and with great focus and clarity.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:15 PM

66. And when you talk about it

And when you talk about them, their power seems less frightening. Name them for what they do, and then defeat them at the polls.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:04 PM

70. Kicked and recommended to the Max!



Plenty of money for unnecessary wars of profit.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:47 PM

71. The Koch Bros are trying to become America's third world dictators.

They must be stopped!

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Response to Initech (Reply #71)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:52 PM

73. They learned frrom their father's business partner Joseph Stalin!

 

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:50 PM

72. Did he really say this? I wonder.

 

I like Bernie, but I also distrust bullshit graphical "memes".

I did a search on "What the Republicans and the Koch brothers are very clear" and received the following.

Link to google search

"No results found for "what the republicans and the koch brothers are very clear""

Please provide a reference link for when Mr. Sanders said this.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #72)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 10:21 PM

74. You didn't try very hard.

http://www.latimes.com/la-na-c1-bernie-sanders-president-2016-20150306-story.html#page=1

It quotes from an extemporaneous speech at the Prairie Lights bookstore way back in early March.

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Response to delrem (Reply #74)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 06:40 AM

75. Thanks.

 

Looks like the beginning quote is unavailable on the web.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:45 PM

80. I believe Kock parents were big in the John Birch Society

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:54 PM

81. I don't think the public really knows about the Kochs

Some do but most would be horrified. I'm glad Bernie is highlighting this.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:09 PM

82. It's interesting how loads of posts that don't belong in GD are left alone, and some

are subjected to enforcement of what are supposed to be the rules for all.

GO BERNIE!!

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:10 PM

83. I missed it in GD so thanks for reposting it here.

He names names, doesn't he? The Kochs are going to be spending huge amounts of money to try to shut him up. We
see it already, and it shows how scared they are.

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Response to abakan (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:08 AM

85. Why don't more Democrats call out these tools of big money the way Bernie does?

Why are they always willing to 'reach across the aisle' to try to negotiate with a bunch of extremists?

I don't think Bernie will be doing that when he is in the WH. He won't be compromising with bullies.

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