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If I said to Joe Schmoe on the street (Original Post) boston bean Jul 2015 OP
Probably...If you said we need to defeat the Yankees, he would be YEAH, unless he is a randys1 Jul 2015 #1
Would a Yankee fan show his/her colors in Boston? TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #10
I have my dvr set up to record "The Biggest Loser"weight loss show but it keeps recording randys1 Jul 2015 #22
The political language we use on DU isn't what MineralMan Jul 2015 #2
That is why you won't hear Hillary say the word "oligarchy". boston bean Jul 2015 #3
Yet "oligarchy" seemed to resonate with Madison. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #5
A lot of people don't know what the Bill of Rights is TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #13
He didn't just say "oligarchy" in a single sentence. arcane1 Jul 2015 #31
I love Madison! zappaman Jul 2015 #38
That's true of most candidates, at least of successful ones. MineralMan Jul 2015 #6
"My friends" for example. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #8
There's another reason she won't use the word. morningfog Jul 2015 #15
. arcane1 Jul 2015 #28
my thoughts exactly! m-lekktor Jul 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Jul 2015 #4
True that ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #7
Maybe Joe Schmoe needs to up his vocabulary game...n/t monmouth4 Jul 2015 #9
I hope one day you will be able to comprehend how truly offensive your comment is. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #12
A teachable moment. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #11
And if I said to Jane Schmoe on the street... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #14
But Joe Schmoe understands the rest of the message. morningfog Jul 2015 #16
And that is also Hillary's position. nt boston bean Jul 2015 #19
Except when it isn't, of course. morningfog Jul 2015 #20
Not to disagree with your comment LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #24
...and an engaged person would explain what it is, and then Joe Schmoe would agree. cyberswede Jul 2015 #17
If I said to Joe Schmoe on the street Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #18
There's an . . . interesting criticism Prism Jul 2015 #21
or steve martin HFRN Jul 2015 #29
it is hard to attack Bernie, even the straws are hard to grasp..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #37
I'm like all WHAT?? over this thread frylock Jul 2015 #23
They are certainly trying very hard. Perhaps their hardest. morningfog Jul 2015 #25
this is some amateur hour bullshit.. frylock Jul 2015 #30
They're one step away from "Who'd you rather have a beer with" territory arcane1 Jul 2015 #33
Unhesitatingly, Bernie. frylock Jul 2015 #35
he might not understand how you defeat the oligarchy, by voting for the candidate HFRN Jul 2015 #26
And you would explain it. Right? arcane1 Jul 2015 #27
i saw a video, by a law professor about the 5th amendment HFRN Jul 2015 #34
I agree, the OP is insulting. arcane1 Jul 2015 #36
Got it. OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #39
I agree with your analysis Gothmog Jul 2015 #40
We must defeat the oligarchy, he'd be like WHAT?? TheCount_ Jul 2015 #41
And Joe being the low-information voter he is, votes for Hillary... That your hope? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #42
buzz words: oligarchy, austerity, sequestration Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #43
If asked Joe Schmoe on the street to name one thing that Hillary was actually bringing the table.... Joe the Revelator Jul 2015 #44
I walked up to joe schmoe on the street today Mnpaul Jul 2015 #45
There is a name for that logical fallacy AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #46
LOL, so the fuck what? Bonobo Jul 2015 #47
Sanders: "Our Democracy is Being Owned by a Handful of Billionaires" Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #48
And that's how the Oligarchy wants it. neverforget Jul 2015 #49

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Probably...If you said we need to defeat the Yankees, he would be YEAH, unless he is a
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jul 2015

a Yankees fan

gotta figure out how to talk to people

YOU TELL ME how do I tell this person I know, 60 yr old female, makes $50K a year maybe more, will retire in a mobile home, nice actually, but she hates liberals and democrats and loves weekends off, overtime pay, safe workplaces, work comp and unemployment

etc etc etc

randys1

(16,286 posts)
22. I have my dvr set up to record "The Biggest Loser"weight loss show but it keeps recording
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jul 2015

Dodgers games

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
2. The political language we use on DU isn't what
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jul 2015

works away from DU. I've been campaigning and canvassing for years. The message we must carry has to be in the language of the people we talk to. Always.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
3. That is why you won't hear Hillary say the word "oligarchy".
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jul 2015

She will use other terms, people are familiar with.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
13. A lot of people don't know what the Bill of Rights is
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jul 2015

So I'm sure they don't know who Madison was and what he thought. The only way to win people over is to speak in terms they understand not what they should understand.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
31. He didn't just say "oligarchy" in a single sentence.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:45 PM
Jul 2015

He described it, then named it. Anyone paying attention to the speech would walk away knowing what the word means. One of the many reasons this OP is a joke.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
6. That's true of most candidates, at least of successful ones.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015

They speak to their audience in terms everyone will understand. Sometimes, that isn't good enough for those of us who follow politics more closely. It's what works, though. Populism requires speaking to the population in terms that are easy to understand. Not everyone who votes is a political wonk. In fact, few are, really.

Response to boston bean (Original post)

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
14. And if I said to Jane Schmoe on the street...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:10 PM
Jul 2015

..."In the coming weeks, I’ll propose specific policies to: Reward businesses who invest in long term value rather than the quick buck"... she'd be like YAWN!!!

See even when Bernie uses big words that not everyone understands, what they do understand is this: he speaks directly and consistently and he doesn't try to hide what he's saying behind a lot of hand-waving phrases. Nor does he talk down to his audience. And believe it or not, Joe and Jane Schmoe notice that stuff.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
16. But Joe Schmoe understands the rest of the message.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jul 2015

Joe agrees that we should create jobs by rebuilding our infrastructure and that if should be funded by the billionaires paying their fare share.

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
24. Not to disagree with your comment
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jul 2015

But I think you're giving Joe too much credit. It's been my experience that Joe is a complete imbecile incapable of processing anything that doesn't involve stuffing his face, farting or sports/entertainment/celebrity gossip.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
18. If I said to Joe Schmoe on the street
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:35 PM
Jul 2015

that inline inspections should be performed with a smart pig, he'd be like WHAT?

That's why I don't talk about work with people outside of the industry.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
21. There's an . . . interesting criticism
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jul 2015

"Your arguments are too smart for idiot Americans!"

Wonder if that can be incorporated into a campaign slogan: "Hillary 2016: Because We'll Talk Down To You"

That kind of reminds me of when people complained Obama was being "too professorial" in the way he spoke sometimes.

Didn't particularly damage him, I don't think.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
37. it is hard to attack Bernie, even the straws are hard to grasp.....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:57 PM
Jul 2015

but that doesn't prevent people from grasping at straws

frylock

(34,825 posts)
30. this is some amateur hour bullshit..
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:45 PM
Jul 2015

if this is the best Team Clinton can come up with, this thing is in the bag.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
33. They're one step away from "Who'd you rather have a beer with" territory
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jul 2015

Although Bernie would still be my answer

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
26. he might not understand how you defeat the oligarchy, by voting for the candidate
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jul 2015

who's logo you have in your footnote

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
34. i saw a video, by a law professor about the 5th amendment
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:52 PM
Jul 2015

called don't talk to cops. the professor gave the 2nd half of the lecture to a 3rd year student, who had been a cop for 20 years, and talked about interrogations or 'interviews' as they call them now

what struck me is, he said 'never talk down to people, you cant insult people' because they wont like or trust you, and they'll just shut down

shouldn't political educators use the same respect that a police interrogator uses?

 

TheCount_

(70 posts)
41. We must defeat the oligarchy, he'd be like WHAT??
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jul 2015

He would just say Refuse to lose!

And then wave his oversized foam finger.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
44. If asked Joe Schmoe on the street to name one thing that Hillary was actually bringing the table....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jul 2015

....He'd be like WHAT?

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
45. I walked up to joe schmoe on the street today
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:11 PM
Jul 2015

and showed him Bernie's extremist comments from last night and he understood every word. He was an elderly guy around 60 who had no internet. He did not know who Bernie was but was amazed at Bernie's speech giving abilities. He was immediately taken by Bernie and asked what party? I told him and he said he had no interest in voting for Hillary or the Republicans. The friend who I was visiting, was also listening to the speech and now had to watch it too. He follows politics on the internet and newspapers but doesn't do message boards. So I put my tablet on the table so both could watch. Next it was his wife who had to check it out. She was doing something on the computer in the other room. After she listened for a bit she decided to go back to her computer and watch it there.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
47. LOL, so the fuck what?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:12 AM
Jul 2015

Do you think that means it's not a "real thing"?

Hilarious, but not as hilarious as dropping "boston bean + oligarch" into the search function and seeing how MUCH you hate the word (or is it that you hate the concept? Or is it that you are sensitive to Hillary being placed in that category?)

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
49. And that's how the Oligarchy wants it.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:30 AM
Jul 2015

People uninformed and ignorant of those pulling the politicians strings.

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