2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOfficial lulz thread of the 1/23 Pug debate.
Live stream here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ns/politics/
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)First sentence of the first answer of the first question.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)But then, I don't think we're watching to be persuaded by these dimwits.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)(Paraphrased, not sure if he said 'tirade.')
Whisp
(24,096 posts)don't like that fucker either.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It was a Republican primary, you ignorant robot.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Williams said no clapping / responses by the audience. I heard a few uncontrollable chuckles. Newt is seriously being nastier than any candidate I've ever seen.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)good move by NBC.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Waaaaaaa!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)He looks like Botox Ken.
JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)Also agree that Gingrich seems flat, tired. Except his hair.
RandySF
(58,797 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)He reveals himself to anybody willing to look.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)That's the last shallow thing I'll say, but I was shocked.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)...setting up for a low tax to income ratio.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Cue the forensic loophole accountants....
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Romney (negatively) said he'd pay a 0% rate under Newt's plan, Newt laughed it off and said it'd be fine if it created jobs. That was hilarious.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Its almost like their egos are deflated without the immediate feedback.
JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)What was that person laughing about in the audience.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Project much?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Banks didn't do a thing wrong.... Government forced them to make these profits ('take all these losses')
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Dodd-Frank is fixing the issues. It's stopping the corruption.
The "big banks are getting bigger" because the corruption caused those not capable of breathing to crash and burn.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)...but Dodd-Frank failed.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Damn.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Newt knows he has to be nastier than Romney...
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Just to see how this is playing with the audience.
They aren't buying this shit, are they?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Just morbid...
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Stupid ass question. It wouldn't work that way.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Dear God. These men want to lead this nation?
Sigh.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)I'm convinced. Thats who Pres Obama would like to be the nominee. He can't debate for shit. And he sounds like a stuck up clown
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Oh so now he's going to be internationalist? Interventionist?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Which we already do (Cuba's largest imports come from the US, if I recall correctly).
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Is bat shit crazy.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)What he said doesn't mean what he means.
gateley
(62,683 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Cuba & Venezuela in a "jihadist network" and only 90 miles off our shore.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Really REALLY missing the applause/cheers on this debate. Its really flat and hard to tell if any of this crazy shit is sticking the landing or not.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)And people fucking say Obama is no different!
gateley
(62,683 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Ask Osama and Gaddaffi that, asshole.
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)and the blockade/sanctions.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Free trade means that you can chose not to do business if you don't want to. Indeed, that's how monopolies are formed, and if companies, on their own violition, boycotted Iran, Ron Paul would back them completely, and not call it a "blockaid."
It just shows how inconsistent and asinine this view is.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Same with the housing crisis where the government forced banks (and loan officers, and mortgage brokers and MBS securities sales, and, and, and) to take RECORD profits "against their own best interest".
The head just swims trying to follow that argument.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)A - bla bla bla about nukes and terrorists and basically 'turn them into a parking lot'.
He makes it sound like they are the most vile nation anywhere, anytime.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)He also tied Keystone XL to this answer.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)A real WTF. He stuck that in while talking about how campaigning with spanish literature is appropriate, english should be the 'official language'.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)(After they vote, that is)
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)These guys lose in a landslide.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)"Governor Mitt, Florida sugar growers have thrown buckets of money at your campaign. How do you feel about ag subsidies?"
"Well, Brian, I'm glad you asked that. You see, Barack Obama has done nothing to help the economy or the housing market in this state..."
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Unbelievable. He didn't even bother to phone in a segue.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)snicker
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)...or 90 rounds of 18 holes (1620 holes)?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Guessing they don't like the idea of the man taking 3 hours out of his week to relax and clear his head.
Maybe if he was privately bowling in the WH lanes where no one ever saw him, it would be ok.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)I thought they were exaggerating. Still, over 3 years that's not a significant amount of time.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)BFD.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)I feel this is a more important indicator than a round of golf
President Reagan, in 1981, spent all or part of 42 days away from the White House "on vacation" at his home in Santa Barbara, Calif, according to Knoller. President Reagan and his wife, Nancy, also spent three or four days around New Years Day each year in Palm Springs, Calif., at the home of philanthropist Walter Annenberg. (In 1993 the late Mr. Annenberg founded the nonpartisan Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, which is FactCheck.orgs parent organization.)
President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential mansion in the nations capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation" trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them all or part of 69 days came during his first year as president in 2001, according to Knoller.
Bushs father, President George H.W. Bush, spent less time "on vacation" during his first year than his son, but spent more days than President Obama. According to travel records provided to FactCheck.org by the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum, the former president took six trips spanning all or part of 40 days to the Bush family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1989. The archivist at Bushs presidential library told us she didnt have a list of all vacations but did have the Kennebunkport visits.
But at least two recent presidents by Knollers count took less "vacation" time during their first year than President Obama Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I know it was local, but damn. Really journos? This is the best you can throw out there?
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Let that poor woman rest in peace!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Guessing they thought it was a topical way of bringing up the government vs medical decisions question, but it was tacky as all get out, IMO.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Frist doing video diagnosis etc
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Sniveling little toad, answer the question.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)"Thought bubble over Newt's head when asked about Terry Schiavo: 'Obviously, you divorce her.'"
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)That's excellent.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Newt - because government regulations are preventing us from creating jobs (SOX regulations, etc...)
DAMN! No one else got this one. They cut to commercial.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Total snoozefest tonight.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)This has been underwhelming to say the least.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I am thinking the candidates may have been off their mark due to the silence as well.
I heard there is another debate before Tuesday. Do you know who is hosting that one?
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)one of them tweeted "Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Obama Re-election Committee".
Thought I was going to wet myself.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)That was just the glory days of pure crazy land.
Did you see this, absolutely hilarious graphic?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002201233#post1
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Thanks
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Again.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)line back in 2008 that was included on every drinking game bingo card.
Trotted out every time, and fell flat every time.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)What is the "I agree with Senator Santorum.....and like Dr Paul says....." leadin?
What happened to night of the long knives?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)(guessing he is talking about the economy of the nations Bain offshores to....)
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)I personally think it was a draw in the end, but Newt definitely was pulling punches hard. Just being nasty, mind you, not substantive.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)/switching over to MSNBC.