Incredible! Bernie only 8 points behind Hillary in NH

[MannyGoldstein]

WMUR/CNN poll: Clinton suddenly in a tight battle with Sanders in NH: Vermont US senator now within 8 percentage points of frontrunner

Less than two months ago, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton held a 21 percentage point lead over her nearest competitor in the New Hampshire Democratic presidential primary campaign. Now, her edge is down to 8 percentage points over Vermont U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Clinton leads Sanders, 43 to 35 percent, in a new WMUR/CNN Granite State Poll, which was conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center from June 18 to 24. The poll included 360 likely 2016 Democratic primary voters and has a margin of error of 5.2 percent, meaning Sanders is close to being in a statistical dead heat with the frontrunner.

According to the poll, Vice President Joe Biden was the choice of 8 percent, while former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley drew 2 percent and former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb was the choice of 1 percent.

A WMUR Granite State Poll released in May showed Clinton leading Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren 51 to 20 percent, with Sanders at 13 percent. Warren, who has repeatedly insisted she will not run for president, was not included in the new poll. A year ago, Clinton led Sanders, 59 percent to 5 percent.

No wonder McCaskill was spewing verbal flop sweat on Morning Joe this morning!

(Sorry if this has already been posted, I didn't see it when I looked.)

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Feel the Bern!

[Joe the Revelator]

2. I've got to give it to Bernie, he's really making a race out of this thing. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

3. Yes

Bernie is doing much better than expected.

His message is resonating.

[Stryder]

25. And just gettin warmed up.

How many debates have there been so far?...
Oh that's right.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

32. I was talking to a 30-something bartender and mentioned Bernie. Who?

There is so much time left for these people to catch on. If the polls keep going in the same direction, eventually the media will have to cover him.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

16. Bernie said he was running to win as a Democrat....

Too many people are trying to paint him as a spoiler.

[malokvale77]

4. Go Bernie

McCaskill personifies the worst of the Democratic Party.

She needs to be challenged by a real Democrat.

[Historic NY]

7. Find one in Mo....in 2018

she won re-election as Senator unlike other Democrats or even so-called Liberal Democrats.

[HappyMe]

8. lol!

2018?


Yeah, let's worry about Clinton's minion now!

[malokvale77]

14. Sorry, I can't help MO...

I too busy looking for real Democrats to run in Texas.

[Stryder]

27. malok,

I wish you the best of luck.
That said...
Lived in Texas a life time or two ago.
And while some of the nicest folks you would hope to meet,
finding a "real Democrat" seems akin to
"Picking fly shit out of black pepper
with boxing gloves on."
Again, that was a while ago, but it doesn't
seem they've leaned anything but right since.

[malokvale77]

40. You are so right...

When I first came here (by force) in the 60's, I thought things were bad but fixable..

When W stole the Governors election, I knew this state was doomed.

Things here have gone sour. I see no relief in sight.

[wendylaroux]

29. from Mo. here,

she only won because of the todd akin interview.
before that she was getting beat bad,really bad.

[Chemisse]

5. This newscaster seemed downright depressed about it.

http://www.wmur.com/politics/wmurcnn-poll-clinton-suddenly-in-a-tight-battle-with-sanders-in-nh/33776056

[BrotherIvan]

6. The better he does, the better he will do

By that I mean, a lot of people agree with his stances and wish they could vote for him, but they are afraid he will lose. People like to pick a winner. But if they see that people support him and that he's not "extreme" or "fringe" they will get on board. The big crowds and positive stories are good press. Why else would the Clinton campaign get down and dirty?

[azmom]

9. We are just getting started!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

35. The old snowball rolling down a long steep hill - Get out of the way!

[840high]

55. I like that!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

36. Talk about big crowds

Next Wednesday in Madison, Bernie's venue is the Alliant Center Coloseum which I think holds at least 10,000. I'll be there! I hope we can fill the thing for the Bernerator!

[BrotherIvan]

41. Oh damn

That's amazing. Here's hoping. I can't believe people are willing to sit outside of the venues just to hear him speak. That's crazy town. I think they're going to be spending a lot of the campaign funds on the stadiums. He should do the Coliseum when he comes to Los Angeles just like the Rolling Stones.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

44. Hillary would really feel the Bern if he filled it!

[BrotherIvan]

46. She's feelin it

They will be having rallies with top flight talent soon and free beer. They're not doing all this massive fundraising for nothin.

[azmom]

50. I suspect that too. 2.5 billion

That's a lot of beer.

[BrotherIvan]

57. Yup

Deciding everyone can be bought because...well...

[Art_from_Ark]

61. The 21st century version of the "log cabin and hard cider" candidate!

[BrotherIvan]

63. Damn, that's interesting. Too true

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

71. I encourage people to drink free beer. Nothing will stop me from supporting Bernard Sanders!

[frylock]

58. whoa dang!

[Le Taz Hot]

84. 10,000 in Wisconsin?

[djean111]

10. Now, of course, the polls that were crowed about will be dismissed as useless.

That is the problem with using polls as a weapon. This far out, they are useless due to name recognition.

[Jefferson23]

11. I remain encouraged and hopeful. Very exciting for us. n/t

[Fumesucker]

12. About five more points and loyalty oaths will be a thing of the past

In fact it will be as if no one has ever heard of such an outrageous idea.

Unless Bernie supporters start demanding them of course.

[snappyturtle]

18. We can only hope. I am not a loyalty oath type of person. nt

[MannyGoldstein]

21. I was just thinking today... If Bernie wins the nomination, will Hillary supporters

finally stop asking - virtually daily! - if Bernie supporters will vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination?

[BrotherIvan]

42. Full board PUMA

That will be their response.

[zeemike]

39. Well I would not take it even if it were for Bernie.

The whole loyalty oath thing is kind of creepy to me.

[WillyT]

13. Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Maedhros]

15. Hillary's support appears dominant in a vacuum.

When she has to actually campaign against a candidate with a better message, she slips.

[Fuddnik]

28. Blasphemy!!!!!! Hillary has 200% support of liberals and you know it!!!!

[Maedhros]

49. Hillary has the best support money can buy. [n/t]

[azmom]

51. I felt the Bern all the way in Arizona.

[BrotherIvan]

43. Tis true

I like her more when she's not running. Her campaign's tactics are just nasty.

[winter is coming]

87. +1. Even if I agreed with her positions, I wouldn't support her.

Someone who wants power that badly should not have it.

[BrotherIvan]

88. That's a damn good point

[winter is coming]

86. To be fair, anyone who runs a more traditional campaign is vulnerable just now.

It's a lot easier to sell vague feel-good sound bites to people who feel secure. When people don't feel secure and have been burned again and again by politicians giving weaselly answers, someone like Bernie exposes them for what they are--empty suits. I relish the prospect of seeing Bernie debate anyone in the GOP clown car.

[cui bono]

17. FEEL THE BERN!!!

[sheshe2]

19. K

http://images.businessweek.com/cms/2015-06-24/NH-methodology-public.pdf

[MannyGoldstein]

22. What? No R? nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

60. Interesting stuff.

This poll has a bigger lead for Clinton--56% to 24%--but shows Clinton's support stagnating while Bernie's has gone 6% to 24% in six months. That's not a good trend line for Hillary.

Also, of Bernie supporters, nine out of 10 (89%) said they supported him because of what he stands for, not out of Hillary-hatred.

He beats her on "will take on Wall Street," "will fight for the average person," and "is authentic."

She beats him on "can beat the Republican," "foreign policy experience," and "knows how to get things done in Washington."

Also, 80% think she's going to be the nominee.

I think even where she's strong, she's weak:

More electable, because people think she's inevitable. That could erode fast.

Foreign policy. Her record is not something to brag about and is quite militaristic.

And I'm not sure that being a master of same old-same old politics is so strong either.

Should be an interesting few months.

[rhett o rick]

78. She may have a lock on the "she can get things done in Washington the DC, but that

doesn't mean good things and most likely it means bad things.

[L0oniX]

20. K & R

[BuelahWitch]

23. New Hampsha is feelin' the Bern!

[morningfog]

24. Great to hear.

[Grilled Charlie]

26. It's going to be a great year!

I can't wait for the debates!

[BrotherIvan]

45. Your signline always mesmerizes me

[Grilled Charlie]

48. It's easy to get too serious here

so it's nice to have a little fun too

[Kalidurga]

30. It's impossible to post this too many times.

#feeltheBern #BernNotice #BernieSanders2016

Let them keep attacking Bernie. The more they do that the more people understand that yes, there is a difference between a Liberal and a Blue Dog Democrat.

[George II]

34. The problem on DU is that the attacks are about 4-1.............

...........in favor of the Sanders' supporters against the Clinton campaign.

[Ed Suspicious]

37. Only because there are 10:1 Sanders supporters over Clinton supporters.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

38. It's much harder to find much to attack about Bernie.

[azmom]

52. Someone mentioned that

Sander's does not have any accomplishments like O'malley.
The argument was that Bernie has been in congress awhile and doesn't have any record of accomplishment.

Is that valid?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

72. He authored or co-authored many great bills that were killed by the ruling class.

If we had any kind of decent congress, he'd be doing great things. You can do your own research, but I think we need more people like Bernie in congress.

[questionseverything]

77. bernie was instrumental in getting the fed audited

http://www.sott.net/article/250592-Audit-of-the-Federal-Reserve-Reveals-16-Trillion-in-Secret-Bailouts



i am always surprised no one brings this up......the fed fought it tooth and nail....and we found while the fed was nickle and diming Americans they were spreading 16 trillion bucks out to bankers around the world.....more money than the entire US debt at the time

[Phlem]

31. We need to keep it going.

fast or slow but steady, and no giving up. Just like the "R's". There is no giving up!!!

[George II]

33. What would one expect in a neighboring state that essentially IS a carbon copy of his home state?

He can have his share of 24 pledged delegates.

[BrotherIvan]

47. Yes, it's just every OTHER state where Clinton polls at 99.999%

[MannyGoldstein]

53. VT and NH are carbon copies?

You sure you wanna go with that?

[frylock]

59. All those states look alike, Manny

*wink-wink*

[George II]

68. Demographically, yes.

Pretty startling how similar the demographics are (sorry for the formatting):

NH Vermont

Persons under 5 years, percent, 2013 5% 5%
Persons under 18 years, percent, 2013 21% 20%
Persons 65 years and over, percent, 2013 15% 16%
Female persons, percent, 2013 51% 51%

White alone, 94% 95%
Black or African American alone, 2% 1%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone 0% 0%
Asian alone 2% 1%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0% 0%
Two or More Races 2% 2%
Hispanic or Latino 3% 2%
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino 92% 94%

[sabrina 1]

64. That's strange, just a few weeks ago we were told that he couldn't win NH or Iowa. Two

very important and critical states and that Hillary had them wrapped up. Now they don't count? .

These states are extremely significant which is why that is where candidates go early on.

[Thinkingabout]

54. Guess you could say Hillary is winning by a nose, a really long nose.

[MannyGoldstein]

56. Dog whistle. nt

[joshcryer]

62. Sanders will surprise a lot of people in the initial caucuses.

But I was wrong that he'd bridge the gap after the first debate. It seems he's doing quite well before even the first debates begin. Clinton can be toppled.

[Ichingcarpenter]

65. - Clinton’s lead is slimmer than that held over Barack Obama in 2008

The poll has Sanders receiving the support of 35% of likely Democratic voters while Clinton is at 43%. Vice-president Joe Biden, who has not indicated that he will mount a presidential bid, is at 8% and the former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley is at 2%.

The poll has Clinton with a far slimmer lead than she possessed at this time eight years ago. In June 2007 a CNN/WMUR poll gave Clinton a 36%-22% lead over Barack Obama in New Hampshire. Obama won the Democratic nomination.

Sanders has been drawing massive crowds on the campaign trail. Most recently, when he and Clinton appeared with two days of each other in Des Moines, Iowa, the Vermonter drew a bigger crowd. This was despite the fact that Sanders has repeatedly held public events in Iowa while it was Clinton’s first public rally in the Hawkeye State since announcing her candidacy.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/25/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-democrats-poll?CMP=fb_us

[MannyGoldstein]

67. Sounds like a good OP...

[corkhead]

66. Great strategy to make a heavy push in one state. Being competitive legitimizes his candidacy

to the casual voter who is only now just starting to pay attention.

This is also quieting those who sincerely doubt his viability. Unfortunately it will only make louder those who are trying to paint him as a fringe candidate but are secretly starting to fear him.

[Fumesucker]

70. It's the secret fear that will undo them

It will lead them to become clamorous and cacophonous which will only emphasize the flop sweat.

[raouldukelives]

69. We got the fire and were gonna let it Bern. nt

[brooklynite]

73. Just to be clear...polls are now a reliable barometer?

I'm having a hard time keeping up...

[MannyGoldstein]

74. As I believe I've always stated...

This far out, changes are mostly what matter.

[Autumn]

75. Well they are for Hillary. Why not for Bernie?

I have missed my dear friend posting the polls to keep us all informed.

[rhett o rick]

80. "I'm having a hard time keeping up..." That's understandable. Things are

changing whether the Conservative Democrats want it to or not. There is a movement on. Out with the billionaires and their lackeys.

[EndElectoral]

76. A long way to go. Go Bernie!

[rhett o rick]

79. Exactly, the Swiftboating has only just begun. nm

[PowerToThePeople]

81. New Hampshire Poll Shows Bernie Sanders in Dead Heat With Hillary Clinton

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/25/new-hampshire-poll-shows-bernie-sanders-in-dead-heat-with-hillary-clinton/?_r=0

[Babel_17]

83. Thank you! :) nt

[Babel_17]

82. Clinton maintains an 8 point lead! (Ministry of Truth breaking news) nt

[marym625]

85. One of these mornings you're gonna rise up singing

And you'll spread your wings and you'll take to the sky
But 'til that morning, there ain't nothin' can harm you