2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy don't the Dems threaten to do a discharge petition? or why not do one!
I can't stand this waiting game. The stakes are way to high and with the debt ceiling just around the corner why isn't our minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, threatening to do a discharge petition? She did that in 2012 when they couldn't get things going on the middle class tax bill. Can't she threaten a "discharge petition"? Hell, can't we DO a discharge petition?
I thought that there were enough Republicans that would vote for the CR that the senate passed so maybe they'd sign on to get the discharge petition going?
Here's a youtube of her in 2012 talking about the petition for the middle class tax bill.
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questionseverything
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lamp_shade
(14,850 posts)legislative.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)You're right. How long has a clean bill been sitting there?
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)That would require all 200 Democrats, at least 2 of which have back part of all the shut down, plus at least 18 Republicans who must spit in Boner's eye and follow Pelosi.
So I don't think that will happen.
Discharge petitions are very rare because they are extremely difficult to pull off.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)It is intentional to stall this week. Obama wants to tie the CR together with the debt ceiling increase. The last thing he wants to do is let the GOP off the hook for obviously shutting down government over a hissy fit about Obamacare, and then have then come right back the next week with another shutdown that is based on something more Americans agree with (too much Federal debt).
We are really only one week away from the time that the real high stakes game starts. That will probably ramp up starting about Tuesday.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)-snip-
King said there was at least twenty-five legislators who would vote for a so-called clean continuing resolutionmore than enough for it to pass the Housebut that Speaker John Boehner was handcuffed by what King called Cruz Republicans.
We just cant wait for this to be put on the floor by the speaker, King said. Were going to have to force the action. In some ways maybe that makes the speakers job easier. If twenty or twenty-five of us say were going to vote no on everything until a continuing resolution is put on the floor, thats how you get results.
King said his colleagues agreed with him that this is insane, that this has to end, but some of them are reluctant to force the action right now. I think we have to force the action. The only difference is a question of timing, thats all. We all believe its absolutely wrong, whats happening.
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rep-peter-king-on-house-gop-i-honestly-dont-know-what-they-want/
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)I don't mind seeing the GOP fracture. However, the way this will play out is that the CR will merge together with the debt ceiling, and Obama's leverage goes way up with the debt ceiling talk. Boehner is already talking about a "grand bargain" or some minor variation of that. This can be an opportunity for Obama to get some of the things he has wanted for several years. The Republicans need a way out of the box they have put themselves in. Obama wants to keep them in that box for another week. These diumbasses don't even know they are trapped yet.
Gothmog
(145,794 posts)Any republican who signs a discharge petition will have a tea party candidate in a primary. Many of the GOP moderates want to avoid this if at all possible. I think that a discharge petition will be practical at some point but only after there has been some significant public outcry
lancer78
(1,495 posts)or a Murkowski. If I was a moderate republican in a 55-45 republican district I would just run as an independent and tell the "base" to suck it like those 2 did.
alc
(1,151 posts)I've heard 2 today (willing to be on camera) and supposedly many who won't be named. But they need "something" to save face - they'll lose party support in the next primary and need to be more than "one of those congressman who started the shutdown then caved to the dems" and thus hated by everyone (pretty close to what the named congressman said). Hopefully Obama/Reid/Pelosi are talking to them and trying to find a real concession (or bribe for their district) that can allow them to switch votes and survive a primary - the concession doesn't need to be ACA related. A "bogus concession" won't do it so my guess is that this goes on a long time.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)I guess they ARE considering a discharge petition now.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/breaking-democrats-to-discharge-gop-bill-to-end-shutdown/