2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is the mainstream media pushing the meme that Christie could beat Hillary in 2016?
Christie is disgusting in my opinion and too caustic and nasty to be President. But for the last two days I have been seeing articles saying Christie could be President and he could win in a landslide. It is some corporate fantasy I think to push Christie on us. So the republicans in Iowa think he could win well they also picked Bachman in the straw poll and she ended up dropping out. Yahoo news has been pushing for days now. I just don't see the corpulent abrasive Christie in the white house in 2016. He still has a (R) by his name and his attacks on teachers, women's rights, the poor and minorities will not win him many friends except in the extreme right who think he is a RINO. That party is really fractured, filled with ignorant haters who have lost their minds.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-shows-why-republicans-crazy-160900409.html
railsback
(1,881 posts)National defense is always a big subject in elections. Most want to feel secure. The only thing the SnowdenWald ignorance is doing is setting up the narrative that Dems are weak on defense, who will then try to skirt around the subject, looking for a happy medium, making them look even more pathetic. That will turn off Liberals, the voter turnout will suffer, and that ALWAYS benefits the GOP.
The meme that Christie can beat Hillary is more than just plausible. Its a reality.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Not EVERYTHING is about Snowden.
railsback
(1,881 posts)bamacrat
(3,867 posts)I think its because he's fat and therefore a lot of people in this country can relate to him that way. He is crazy and mean but he's better than Rick Perry or any Paul. I don't think he would stand much of a chance against Hillary but W was elected so...
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)expose all the things he is pushing. Voter ID, school privatization, busting unions, corporate taxes lower, benefits of state lower, not participating in Obama care, Cutting mass transportation or pretty much an ALEC idea.
I hope the media does not make him spo popular he gets more republicans in the state legislature, they are the only ones keeping him from all these things now.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)He acknowledged that Obama handled the Sandy thing the right way, traveled with him and didn't burst into flames when they shook hands or hugged. He will be this cycles shiny up and comer, but the crazies will paint him as palling around with extremists like Obama.. so he will will get pushed aside for another Bush or the rights transparent and disingenuous version of a "minority" candidate.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)He's been in bed with the media since day one. Keep in mind that the only reason he won in the first place (he did not get 50%) was that there was an independent that pulled votes from Corzine.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)privatizing the turnpike and park way to get some quick cash for the budget - do you think the tolls would have been any better under private management? It is not like we can build other roads. You would think the democrats could come up with a more likable/knowledgeable candidate.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)If the NJ Democrats actually had a primary that year and someone stepped up and primaried Corzine, we would have held the seat.
Or Obama should have picked him for Treasury and gotten him out of NJ.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Hillary is inevitable!
Warren is unelectable!
Christie would win no matter what team he is on!
My favorite - Warren is too old! (Hillary is older)
Um, Yahoo News is not exactly a fair and balanced news source.
Or else they have gone so far right they have become official members of the Professional Left and are trying to sabotage the GOP......or the DNC, or something. Yeah, that's the ticket!
Anyways, there will be all sorts of experimental and hopeful and designed-to-harm-another-candidate memes. Feh.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Christie will not be the nominee.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)to ignore him as a viable candidate would be a mistake
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)The first is: why are the media ginning this up? That's simple: political news is slow in the summer, so they'll grasp at any straw at hand. Hell, the top-read story on Salon right now is called "Ted Cruz Could Beat Hillary." There is no more news; there's just constant information flow, with no one remaining who plays the old gatekeeper role of judging what's newsworthy.
The second question, though, is: is there anything to it? And here the answer is "probably not." To see why, you need to look at a may of the 2012 electoral college vote and ask, what on here could Christie take away from Hillary (or vice versa, I guess, though I really don't see Hillary improving upon the Obama map)? Maybe, maybe Christie has enough blue collar appeal to flip Ohio. But that's not enough.
The one thing I do think, though, is that the Tea Party lacks the balls to bolt the GOP, and will dutifully fall in line if Christie is nominated, just as they did with Romney (if you lurk at Freep at all, you know how quickly they went from one extreme to the other.) Though, of course I hope otherwise.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)"Horse race" elections sell ads. Further, open-Presidency two-contested-primary elections sell a lot of ads.
The mainstream media has a fortune to be made by giving the appearance of an actual contest in this election and can double (or more!) that fortune if they can push Clinton to say now she will not run in 2016.