2016 Postmortem
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The war has begun as the old school Republicans try to take their party back from the far right extremists led by the Tea Party. Promote the showdown however you want, Old School vs. New School, Conservatives vs. Extremists or Traditional Republicans vs. Right-Wing Wackos. The GOP wants their reputable name back after it has been soiled by the Tea Party and their crazy cousins.
The Tea Party peaked in 2010 by helping Republicans take back the House of Representatives and a few Senate seats along with it, but lately they have cost the GOP Seats in both houses and are dragging down the reputation of conservatives all over the country. Their far right ideology belongs in the 1950s and their reach towards everyday Americans continues to diminish.
The GOP establishment has had enough and they are starting to fight back led by the disgrace of the 2012 elections, Karl Rove, who has started another group called the Conservative Victory Fund. It is an offshoot of American Crossroads and it will be backed by numerous billionaires that continue to lead the fight against low taxes and deregulation. Only now they have a new enemy, the Tea Party.
Democrats love a good Republican fight, especially when theres blood in the water. All they have to do is just sit back and try to take advantage of every situation they can. Governor Bobby Jindal said that Republicans need to stop being the stupid party which irritated Donald Trump who said that Jindal was stupid for that remark. Things will only get worse for the splintered party when votes come up for a new immigration policy. So cast your votes now. Who will win The Traditional Republicans or The Extremists? Only time will tell if the GOP really is the Stupid Party.
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randr
(12,418 posts)By not standing up to the insanity that Sarah Palin etal brought into the party, the old school fools are out on a limb of their own.
quaker bill
(8,225 posts)Money does not follow losers. The chamber of commerce end of the repug party has figured out that the T-party produces losers who are also bad for business.
Over the long haul the answer is obvious, the guys with the money win. Over the short haul, the guys with the rabid right primary voters win in enough places to keep them in the game. However, while the T-party can win primaries, for the most part the "business roundtables" won't back them in the general. At some point the T-party gets sick of losing and not being backed and either forms a fringe party, joins with an existing fringe party, or folds.
The new model republicans, when they arise, will dump all or nearly all "social issues", and be nearly all about business / taxes. They will believe in big government more overtly as long as big government is focused on handing out benefits to business. Pro-corporate will be the new model.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But it was they who unleashed the Teabag Party on us. They bought and paid for it. They were the ones who bused them into the Democratic Townhall meetings to outyell everyone. It worked too. Now they have a tiger by the tail don't they?
And money didn't make much difference in the last election did it.
The best laid plans....
quaker bill
(8,225 posts)The only real question is how long it will take. I expect that both sides are just gearing up for battle now, so it will take a while. The real problem for them is that by the time they have it sorted out, the demographics will not be there for them to win with anything like this current crop of misfits.
Once they have this sorted out, the only path to regain political relevance will be well to the left of where they are now. They are going to have to get women and brown people to vote for them again. This is more than just a spackle job. Reconstruction will be required.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)melody
(12,365 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Hope there won't be many survivors.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)as to what happens with the Republican Party. I think over the next 45 months there is going to be major fighting within the party. If they can't find a creditable candidate to put up in 2016 the party will explode.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Oh wait! That's us!
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Boehner, McConnell, Cantor and other leaders are being pulled around by the nose by Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and the rest of the crazies.