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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:05 PM Jan 2013

Senate is losing its lions



By Chris Cillizza, Published: January 13

The Senate is losing its lions.

Jay Rockefeller’s retirement from the Senate, which the West Virginia Democrat announced Friday morning, is the latest in a series of departures — by death, defeat or choice — that has rapidly sapped the world’s greatest deliberative body of many of the personalities that dominated the institution, and American politics, for the better part of three decades.

Since the 2008 election, here is just a sampling of the senators who have gone: Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), John Warner (R-Va.), Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), Pete Domenici (R-N.M.), Arlen Specter (R-then-D-Pa.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), and, of course, Vice President Biden (D-Del.)

Virtually every major moment you can think of in the Senate over the past 50 years happened because of the men and women listed above. These are senators about whom books have been written and about whom many more will be written. They are people who will be remembered as prime movers in the chamber.

In their place are a huge number of newcomers who have replaced not only the lions, but also backbench members in recent elections. Since 2008, 40 — yes, 40 — new senators have been elected — 20 Democrats and 20 Republicans, a remarkable bit of symmetry.

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Indydem

(2,642 posts)
1. There shouldn't be lions.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:09 PM
Jan 2013

The consolidation of power these old white men have managed to accrue is disgusting and antithetical to the intentions of the founders.

I don't support term limits, but the idea that they willingly serve until they are so old they have to be wheeled about is disgusting. Many of these people don't understand the most fundamental elements of the world today. The Internet and social media eludes these people and they should retire when their reality is so out of sync.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
2. Lions? You mean old folks voting against equality and muttering about being moderate?
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:13 PM
Jan 2013

That list, Teddy died, that's sad but we are humans. The rest of them have long been either Republicans or shadows of what the once were. Biden is now the VP and he is the President of the Senate, so counting him as 'gone' is a stretch if you ask me. Teddy is gone, Joe got a promotion.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
6. And John Kerry too.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jan 2013

It always cracked me up that for decades he was the "junior" Senator from Mass., i.e., while Ted Kennedy was still alive.

Another lion gone from the Senate.

Bake

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
8. True, but the WP has never liked him - not as Senator, not as candidate, not as nominee
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:13 PM
Jan 2013

and not as likely SOS.

This tells me all I want to know of the neocon heavy WP pundit group.

What cracked me up is that some thought the junior/senior designation was all that significant. After all, both Jay Rockefeller (chair of the Commerce committee) and Kerry (chair of SFRC and former Presidential nominee) were junior Senators in 2009 when Byrd and Kennedy were alive. Yet they were both far more powerful than most senior Senators.

Not to mention, Kerry looked absolutely crushed when Kennedy died - I doubt anyone LESS wanted to be senior senator - though he did want to be President and SOS.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
10. I agree that too many Senior Democrats are leaving the Senate
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:22 PM
Jan 2013

Whether because of death (Ted Kennedy, Daniel Inouye), retirement (Jay Bingaman, Herb Kohl, Kent Conrad) or moving to different positions (Joe Biden, John Kerry) there have been too many Democratic departures in close proximity to one another.

It's great that we have some newer talent coming into the Senate like Elizabeth Warren, Tammy Baldwin, Martin Heinrich and others, but it's also important to have some Senior figures who can mentor them along, and we are losing too many of those.

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