2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo, how does this work? Romney
goes way over to the right for the primaries, then into the center for the GE. Does he expect the RW wingnut base to follow him? Does he not need the base in the General? Will moderates and independents believe him? Will the base stay home in the GE? Someone please explain to me what the Romney strategy is and why they think they can win with it.
mucifer
(23,576 posts)Raven
(13,904 posts)is going to believe him? If he becomes Mr. Moderate, won't he lose the base? Can he win without it?
mucifer
(23,576 posts)gordianot
(15,247 posts)That is too much to resist.
Jim__
(14,089 posts)Most people don't play close attention to politics. Generally, politicians can say one thing to one audience and another thing to a different audience and get away with it. Romney has lots of money to splash lies in front of the American people. Sure, the Dems can call him a liar and he'll call them liars and the media will report what each side says. It would be considered taking sides, and so wrong, for the media to point out that Romney is directly contradicting what he said yesterday.
We expect our politicians to lie. We accept it when they do. We'll get what we've earned.
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Raven
(13,904 posts)might be a huge problem.
quaker bill
(8,225 posts)It worked for Ronbo Raygun, GHWB, and GWB. It worked because we ran our 22 big state model against them with no room for error. Dean attempted to start and Obama finally implemented a different model, the "50 state" (closer in reality to 28 state) model. This model has room for error (some electoral votes to spare). On election night the pundits knew Obama had to win at least one of three (PA, OH, or FL) to slide to easy victory. When the totals came out and he had won all three, the party was over at McCain HQ, but all he had to do was win one.
We will run with the same, and perhaps an expanded map in 2012.
The problem for RMoney is the same as it was for McSame. He will take the nomination by winning the blue areas in the blue states while doing poorly and often losing in the red areas and red states. He is losing among the people he needs to show up by the busload to win.
The Dems did this to themselves right up to the moment Hillary Clinton lost the primary. She banked heavily on the 22 big blue states to hand her the nom. Barack beat her everywhere the republicans would have and just a few more to win the nom.
While what RMoney is doing seems similar, but the reverse, there is absolutely no chance he wins the urban areas in the GE. It is only working at all because rural area turnout is very low for this primary. Rmoney will lose these urban areas by more than 20 points in November. However, with slim victories in NC, VA, and IN, BO demonstrated he could play in some red territory.
polichick
(37,152 posts)...the wealthy and those dying to get into that club, and racists who are obsessed with "taking our country back" from the black guy
If he can get them, and corrupt Republicans can keep enough socialist voters from exercising their right to vote, he has a slim chance.
rox63
(9,464 posts)So they may stay home in November.
polichick
(37,152 posts)...including women who aren't happy with the party but aren't independent enough to "cancel out" their husbands' votes.
livetohike
(22,165 posts)I don't get the media talk about how he will switch his positions and all will be okay. There are thousands of hours of tape of the stupid crap he has been saying.
As far as his problem with women...that isn't going away. What is he going to say? He supports Planned Parenthood now? He's a fool. I don't get all the comments on how much of an asset his wife is to him either. She probably hasn't had a household budget in her whole life.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)now that the center is one hell of a long way back.