2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHoping the House Republicans save us all from this "deal"
We need to go over the cliff.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)during the first quarter of 2013:
You're no friend of the middle-class or the 99% or the working-class or anybody but your broad perception of your narrow self-interest. I hope this deal goes through because I care about people more than political-wins...and you clearly do not.
Any bad deal can be fixed later...starvation, misery, poverty and homelessness are harder to fix.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Lets take the whole chained CPI discussion for example. While I strongly oppose changing social security over the chained CPI, I have to laugh at others who oppose it but also are fully in support of going over the fiscal cliff and doing nothing to change any of it. While chained CPI is a horrible idea, the amount of money taken out of middle class and poor working class people's pockets will be MUCH, MUCH higher if we go over the cliff.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Some people it seems would rather cheer for their team and score points than actually consider what is at stake for millions of people living in the real world.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Unemployment insurance, doc fix, AMT relief, and they kept the top rate and increases on capital gains and dividends, and no SS cuts, at least for now. All we sacrifice is the floor being $450,000 instead of $250,000. Seems worth it compared to cutting people off UI and driving doctors out of Medicare by drastically cutting rates.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)CNBC ?@CNBC
BREAKING: CNBC's @JohnJHarwood: No vote in the House tonight, sources say.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)in memory.
Redfairen
(1,276 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Anyone who gleefully proclaims "LET'S GO OVER TEH CLIFF!!1" does not.