2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is Michigan still 'too close to call'?
The election was more than two weeks ago.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)They called it for Trump yesterday.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)10,704 votes, that is extremely close
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Losing that state people tried to tell these dumb ass voters who normally vote democrat this would happen.But they didn't listen and now for four or eight years they will pay the price as to what's getting ready to happen to this country
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Some people will never accept being forced into the two party choice. I can't blame those voters any more than Trump voters.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)edited to add link to article on outcome of MI.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/23/donald-trump-wins-michigan-votes/94360852/
The numbers are in: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704
MichMan
(12,002 posts)Question to all of those who believe we should require all ballots be hand counted.
How long do you think it would take to do so?
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Where I vote we mark paper ballots that are run through a scanner.
The length of time it would take to count all ballots by hand depends on how many people you have doing it. For something as important as this, I would be willing to wait.
I put speed of results as a much lower value than accuracy.
MichMan
(12,002 posts)Give 100 people a box of widgets holding a few hundred pieces and see how many different answers you get.
FBaggins
(26,783 posts)The frequency of miscounts per precinct would go up, but the magnitude of those errors would be small... while the possibility of multi-thousand-vote errors would be tiny. Systematic "errors" intended to steal an election would be almost impossible.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Hand counting ballots is asking for both errors and fraud.
However, I do believe that before any election is certified, there should be a representative sampling of ballots that are hand counted and compared to the machine tabulated counts.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)but that paper ballots give you evidence of the vote. Electronic voting machines give you no way of verifying if the votes are real or not.
I do believe that hacking went on during this election.