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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 02:22 PM Nov 2016

"Let's not viilify bigotry" I keep hearing this. How do you make policies to even the playing

Field and then hide them from the bigots who hate you for it?

How do you support the most impoverished - single moms and babies (currently attacked again w new tax proposals) without mentioning the social services these bastards hate?

How do you reform the criminal justice system without alienating these law and order bigots?

How do you denigrate female candidates as just running on being a woman and not sound like you're playing to bigots?

How can you pretend to want a level playing field and not fight for the social justice policies NOW and not after we help you increase your wages?

Why are you asking us to change, when you held your nose and complained for a year about everyone being evil and helped suppress the vote?

How do we restore faith in democracy when we have a fringe group telling voters if their pet candidates didn't win, it's rigged?

How do we win the popular vote by a landslide and yet have to listen to the bigger losers advise us they'd like to sacrifice us for the bigot vote?


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realmirage

(2,117 posts)
2. If your strategy is to claim all Trump voters are racist and that's why we lost
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 02:27 PM
Nov 2016

then you are adopting a strategy that guarantees our demise. People vote for their economic survival first, social issues second.. That's reality and we'd better listen if we want to be relevant again, which right now we are not. We are the minority in all areas of government.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
9. No you make economic issues equal to other issues
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 07:11 PM
Nov 2016

We can't win without a strong economic strategy. And we can't win ONLY with one social issue and nothing else. That seems like common sense to me

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
7. Helped suppress the vote? Seriously?
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 02:45 PM
Nov 2016

You can absolutely vilify bigotry. Vilifying bigots in the general populace is in my opinion, not a good strategy, and not mindful of how they become bigots. It suggests that they are inherently bad people and if that's the case, then it means that they can't change and can't evolve.

It IS a thing that conservatives tend to do is it not, to judge people as evil or soulless, and I think we should be striving for something more healing. How pray tell, do you get the next generation of voters who are born into households of bigots, if you tell them that their parents are horrible monsters? How do you expect them not to retreat into those values?

You support civil rights and social justice by finally being honest about the narrative. Democrats have been mostly unwilling to take on the lobbyists, because they've been taking too much from them. They can't say the immigrants don't have your money but I know who does. Some democrats are just as invested in this model as the GOP is because it shields their donors from the scrutiny of the public. Change that, give people a narrative that gives them cause to band together, and we can start eroding the messaging that has been used to make them fearful of the wrong people.
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