A Fair Election? Serious, Hard-to-Explain Questions Arise About Trump Vote Totals in 3 Key States

[deminks]

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/fair-election-serious-hard-explain-questions-arise-about-trump-vote-totals-3-key

A series of explanation-defying questions surrounding Donald Trump’s victories in key 2016 swing states has prompted a cadre of voting rights attorneys and electronic voting machine experts to consider formally filing for presidential recounts in coming days.

These recount-justifying anomalies go beyond the discrepancies in media exit polls predicting a Hillary Clinton victory on November 8 and subsequent vote counts where Trump won states that have not backed Republican presidents for decades. Recounts could clarify or verify whether several different forms of electronic hacking could have padded state voter rolls and altered resulting counts.

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The count anomalies and possible explanations cited by the team of voting rights attorneys and electronic voting machine experts, whose experience in these issues dates back to the 2000 and 2004 elections, combined a mix of old and new threats. In some cases, known electronic voting machine vulnerabilities may have been tapped to inflate county-level vote tabulations, they said, suggesting those machines should be impounded and examined. Where Russia may have been involved, their theory goes beyond anything imagined in past elections. They posited that last summer’s Russia hacks of voter registration databases could have yielded sufficient information to create large numbers of phantom absentee ballot voters, inflating the Trump vote in certain swing states that helped win the Electoral College.

Recounts and related litigation could explore if either happened, they said. Obtaining and comparing pre- and post-election logic and accuracy reports of voting machinery might begin to trace the “older school” vote-count tampering, where countywide totals are calculated. (American elections are run by county officials.) Similarly, comparing voter lists from states hacked by Russians, such as Illinois where more than 200,000 voter files were taken, to states with very high numbers of absentee ballots, could reveal if phantom voters were put into those state’s databases, they said.

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[mopinko]

1. still think this is why we were hacked.

when no one else asks these kind of questions, we do. and we do it pretty close to real time. ya gotta get those questions out there by the next day at the longest.

[chimpymustgo]

3. No doubt in my mind. It kept us from asking questions, sharing information and coalescing.

The fight goes on. Is there fundraising going on? We've got work to do.

[Nitram]

5. Right. We at DU are so important. Why the election could have turned out different if our web site

hadn't been hacked.

[Mc Mike]

2. Thanks, deminks. rec, nt.

[Botany]

4. Trump was right when he said 'this election is rigged.'

[Nitram]

6. Maybe that's why he kept harping on the "rigged" theme. It tend to blunt accusations against him

for doing the same. At least in the eyes of his supporters.

[Botany]

7. And his people voting twice chestnut was cover for some republican Sec. of States to use "Crosscheck

The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
“The GOP’s Stealth War on Voters <http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-expose-gops-secret-plan-steal-vote/>,” 8/24/2016.

Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393

[R B Garr]

12. Wow, that is sad! I figured his rhetoric was a ruse to get people to look

the other way while they rigged the system themselves.

[INdemo]

8. so then why couldn't Clinton withdraw her concession and wait for the recounts?

[cbdo2007]

9. Because she has class and dignity.

If the recounts come back and she is the winner, that's great and she can take over, if not then she can move on, but her out there blabbering about it on all the news shows is just going to give off a bad impression.

[lostnfound]

10. But there won't be any recounts.

It will go down the memory hole.

[DemonGoddess]

11. Because as much turmoil as there is now,

I think it would be even worse, and it would be the rwnjs with their damn guns against the rest of us OUT IN THE OPEN.