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herding cats

(19,564 posts)
2. I read this in the Guardian the day after the election.
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 01:28 PM
Nov 2016

It may not be the source the OP was referring to, but the info is there in the last paragraph.

Broken down by income bracket, 52% of voters earning less than $50,000 a year – who make up 36% of the electorate – voted for Clinton, and 41% for Trump.

But among the 64% of American voters who earn more than $50,000 a year, 49% chose Trump, and 47% Clinton.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/white-voters-victory-donald-trump-exit-polls

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
7. Also, why did 11% of 50K or less voters vote 3rd party and only 4% of 50K voters went 3rd party
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 01:45 PM
Nov 2016

The poor and working poor had the most to gain from choosing Hillary over Trump, but 11% went elsewhere.

That is, if I understand these numbers correctly.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. That was just from the exit polls:
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 01:40 PM
Nov 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=0

Income < $30K: Clinton 53 / Trump 41
$30K < Income < $50K: Clinton 51 / Trump 42

I'm sure there will be some finer-grained stuff coming out in the next few weeks.

Thanks for all your work this past week!
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Her margin amongst lower income voters was sharply lower than Obama's
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 01:35 PM
Nov 2016

It's not enough to just win certain demographics, Democrats really need to run up the score in those demographics, while keeping the Republicans margins down in other demographics.

haele

(12,651 posts)
8. Well, it'll be difficult to appeal to the I got mine, don't think I'll share types.
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 04:33 PM
Nov 2016

Without throwing those making less than $50K under the bus. There's the problem with trying to be attractive to affluent voters who aren't already voting Democratic.

The underlying issue is voter suppression in the poorer urban and minority-specific areas, an active dis-information effort, and a fear of "those others" that permeates the more affluent monetized classes where a lot of "new money" is made either off other wealthy people's money or from other people's work - the underlying issue was not any particular socio-economic policy point.

Race and class is the reason the Democrats lose.

So long as monetized class club members who make up about 15% of the electorate ensure that people who live paycheck to paycheck working for them have to go over significant hurdles to vote so they can keep their small community leadership status, their tax cuts and their businesses and business practices won't be regulated - so long as they don't have to share and be part of a greater overall national community, they'll win.

So I don't know, what can we as Democrats do to make ourselves more attractive to those affluent voters, and still remain different from the current batch of Republicans?
We won't be more attractive to them by becoming Republican Lite.
And my fear is that if we focus on those who aren't going to vote for us anyway instead of those who will vote for us when they are able to, eventually any Democrat with a "safe seat" due to minority or less affluent worker constituency will find their voters aren't going to be able to vote, and those districts will be picked off by the local Republican political machine.

Haele

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
9. She did really well in highly-paid Silicon Valley
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 11:02 PM
Nov 2016

My county went for her 73%/21%; next-door San Mateo went 76/20, and that hub of overpaid hipsters, san Francisco, went 85/10 (and CA is still counting ballots). In this state it seems the poorer areas - the rural ones - leaned to Trump.

It seems to me more of an urban - rural/suburban split.

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