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Osakagreg

(111 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:18 PM Nov 2016

Republicans will continue to lose until they... (your answer)

I feel confident Hillary is going to win tomorrow!

Republicans will once again be scratching their heads, trying to figure out what they have to do. Some of them might even have some good answers, but I suspect as usual they won't be able to do anything that they should.

Have some fun with your answer or be serious about it.



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Republicans will continue to lose until they... (your answer) (Original Post) Osakagreg Nov 2016 OP
... rename themselves as Democrats. Mika Nov 2016 #1
admit they are zombies from the planet Bagger SummerSnow Nov 2016 #2
Learn espanol jcgoldie Nov 2016 #3
Maybe I'm missing something. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #4
this ^^^^^^^^^^ Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #9
But don't they win because it's "rigged" with the gerrymeandering? TrekLuver Nov 2016 #11
Call it rigged or reality. Up to you. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #14
Only in Congress. subterranean Nov 2016 #16
Thank you for the explanation. TrekLuver Nov 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author subterranean Nov 2016 #18
Seems to be a Dem voter trait... vote in hi profile POTUS elections, skip the rest. Mika Nov 2016 #20
You hit it right on the head! moose65 Nov 2016 #21
YEP Cosmocat Nov 2016 #40
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #50
You mean you didn't notice Trump effectively divide up the GOP into even smaller groups? Rex Nov 2016 #30
I never said it wouldn't be a win for the party. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #32
Not at all, I live in Texas a very red state and Trump supporters hate the GOP. Rex Nov 2016 #33
"Trump supporters hate the GOP." NCTraveler Nov 2016 #35
Well you are wrong, but it doesn't matter really. Rex Nov 2016 #36
Nothing. lol. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #45
CORRECT Cosmocat Nov 2016 #31
INCORRECT. Rex Nov 2016 #34
You were apparently born yesterday Cosmocat Nov 2016 #38
Well when you actually talk to some Trump supporters, get back with me. Rex Nov 2016 #41
Yes, cause you and only you talk to Trump voters Cosmocat Nov 2016 #43
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #49
Exactly on point. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #57
run in off-year elections. nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #5
until they Stop being haters. uawchild Nov 2016 #6
start actively working to earn votes with better policies Tom Rivers Nov 2016 #7
Well kwolf68 Nov 2016 #8
Purge their party of far right extremists meow2u3 Nov 2016 #12
^^^ This Mz Pip Nov 2016 #19
That, too meow2u3 Nov 2016 #22
I think a number of them are thinking of becoming Democrats lapfog_1 Nov 2016 #13
Stop pandering Runningdawg Nov 2016 #15
start living in the present and stop living in a cartoon version of the past Ardoewaan Nov 2016 #17
... shed their selfish and greedy ways. (nt) apnu Nov 2016 #24
understand the difference between fact and opinion. nt arely staircase Nov 2016 #25
Lost cause on that one, they think being clever and being intelligent are one and the same. nt Rex Nov 2016 #37
Can you define "they"? NCTraveler Nov 2016 #47
lulz Rex Nov 2016 #48
Shut up the extreemists and return to their moderate roots when they were willing to make deals napi21 Nov 2016 #27
Bite the hands of their corporate sponsors. RedCloud Nov 2016 #28
Stop acting like they have a God given mandate to rule this country Rocknrule Nov 2016 #39
change parties. Coyotl Nov 2016 #42
Morale improves? Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #44
Serious answer: forjusticethunders Nov 2016 #46
stop hating people based on their ethnicity, religion and gender. nt aaaaaa5a Nov 2016 #52
Until vadermike Nov 2016 #53
Stop being insane right wing corporatist racist sexist dumb assholes who eat Fox News all day. RBInMaine Nov 2016 #55
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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. Maybe I'm missing something.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:21 PM
Nov 2016

Republicans are on a long run of wins from dog catcher up.

We often focus too much on the highest ticket. They have been brilliant at the state level.

We don't even know the results of tomorrow yet. I am highly confident Clinton will take it, less sure about the houses.

Nothing I have seen shows that Republicans are down and out.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
16. Only in Congress.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:41 PM
Nov 2016

Gerrymandering doesn't affect statewide races, and they've managed to beat us in many of those.

Response to TrekLuver (Reply #11)

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
20. Seems to be a Dem voter trait... vote in hi profile POTUS elections, skip the rest.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:51 PM
Nov 2016

That is the case in Florida. Votes blue in the last several POTUS elections, but has a solidly red state legislature and a f-ing RW loon for governor.

Hard to blame gopers when Dems don't vote.










moose65

(3,166 posts)
21. You hit it right on the head!
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:55 PM
Nov 2016

This is like an endless cycle that re-sets every two years. In Presidential years, Republicans can't get it together and can't appeal to enough women or people of color to win the Presidential race, and they wring their hands wondering what happened. Then in off-year elections the Democrats can't get their voters out and spend their time running away from successful policies, and they wring THEIR hands! Instead of trying to figure out how Republicans can improve, Democrats need to fix their own problems and figure out why we have such a hard time winning in off-years. The Republicans will start preparing for the 2018 elections on Wednesday!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. You mean you didn't notice Trump effectively divide up the GOP into even smaller groups?
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:29 PM
Nov 2016

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it is not happening. Currently Trump supporters hate the GOP, imagine that and after he loses the election they will blame the GOP for the loss.

It is a win win for the Democratic Party, you will see.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
32. I never said it wouldn't be a win for the party.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:42 PM
Nov 2016

"Currently Trump supporters hate the GOP"

Highly inaccurate statement. Absolutes in this context always will be seriously inaccurate.

You are talking micro when the discussion was clearly macro.

When one is looking desperately be argumentative, context, by way of necessity, is most always left out in the cold.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. Not at all, I live in Texas a very red state and Trump supporters hate the GOP.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:53 PM
Nov 2016

Have you talked to any, I have. So no, YOU are wrong but I understand completely.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
35. "Trump supporters hate the GOP."
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:56 PM
Nov 2016

Absolute comment with a context that cannot exist in reality. It is that simple.

Again. Micro, macro, leave context behind. Not sure what you are even arguing with respect to the point.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. Well you are wrong, but it doesn't matter really.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:57 PM
Nov 2016

I have actually talked to Trump supporters, what have you done?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
34. INCORRECT.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:54 PM
Nov 2016

Trump has destroyed the GOP, it is now splintered into groups that hate each other.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
38. You were apparently born yesterday
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:00 PM
Nov 2016

Yes, Trump is going to try to keep his seat the table, and Rs will do their childlike emotive BS for a few weeks.

Then the reality of a democratic president will sink in and they will find themselves as they are now - brothers in arms against the evil liberal boogywoman.

Cause that is what they do, scorpion and frog.

And, if we win the senate and do what is right with the filibuster, you WILL hear these exact words - THE DEMOCRATS JUST UNITED US LIKE WE NEVER COULD. Which will precede a shitstorm this country hasn't seen since the civil war.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
41. Well when you actually talk to some Trump supporters, get back with me.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:01 PM
Nov 2016

Until then, you have no idea what you are talking about. The GOP is falling apart. I guess some folks will have to deal with it?

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
7. start actively working to earn votes with better policies
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:22 PM
Nov 2016

instead of actively working to suppress the vote.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
8. Well
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:23 PM
Nov 2016

Simple, they must re-develop a moderate wing of their party....quit divisive rhetoric...promote voting by all people...reach out to minorities...join the 21st century on women and gay issues...quit being hypocrites about the role of government...don't politicize science...limit the role of religion in politics without sacrificing your values...bring back humility, dignity and class to their party, thus limiting the carnival barkers role

In essence, cease being the stupid party.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
12. Purge their party of far right extremists
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:27 PM
Nov 2016

whose idea of bipartisanship is that they get to dictate to the Democrats.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
13. I think a number of them are thinking of becoming Democrats
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:27 PM
Nov 2016

And trying to influence policy by moderating debate from the "center"

Some of the "never Trumpers" that MESSNBC hired sure sound more like Center Left Democrats than Republicans. They still believe in trickle down economics but they can't believe the Trumpanzees running the current Republican party.

I'm guessing they are thinking about leaving the GOP and letting the Breitbart / infowars people have the carcass.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
37. Lost cause on that one, they think being clever and being intelligent are one and the same. nt
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:58 PM
Nov 2016

nt

napi21

(45,806 posts)
27. Shut up the extreemists and return to their moderate roots when they were willing to make deals
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 02:16 PM
Nov 2016

to get things done for the Country!

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
39. Stop acting like they have a God given mandate to rule this country
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:01 PM
Nov 2016

And threatening obstruction or "2nd amendment solutions" if they don't get their way

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
46. Serious answer:
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:21 PM
Nov 2016

It's a trick question. They can't stop losing. Okay so let's say they get smart, realize "okay this Southern Strategy shit isn't working anymore" and then try to appeal to POC. More candidates like Mitt, Jeb and John, and they rewrite the rules (maybe with superdelegates + proportional delegate allocation) to prevent another Trump coup.

Oh but, the problem is that POC, particularly Black and Hispanic people, already lean left by default. Unless the GOP somehow runs to the LEFT of the Dems on stuff like BLM, they won't gain more than 3-4% points with AAs, and while they could improve their numbers with Hispanics back to the 25-30% range, it will be VERY hard given the fact that Trump has created a nationwide Pete Wilson effect that not only makes the GOP toxic with Hispanics, but has turned them from LPVs to LVs. And what do they get for all this? They lose 25-50% of the deplorables, who will either stay home or join a new Deplorable Party. Or they can go down with the Deplorable ship and lose every election by 4-6% points and 300+ EVs until they stumble into the dustbin of history as the country gets blacker, browner and more diverse, and the millennials gain political and economic power (the same millennials who favor socialism over capitalism when polled).

Pretty much it's a massive snowball that the GOP really can't do anything about, while still being "conservative". Of course, they could resume their historic role from the 19th century, and become a radical progressive party, but other than that, I just don't see a way.

With that said, downballots will be a pain until the gerrymander is broken but once it IS broken, the House becomes a Dem lock again. And hopefully we can focus more on state legislatures and gubernatorials as well.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
53. Until
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 06:09 PM
Nov 2016

They run a sane version of trump at the top of the ticket beware !! Anyways How are we tracking for state houses? Anyone know ? We need to start getting back state houses to rebuild our democratic strength as well !!

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