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****** BREAKING ABC NATIONAL TRACKING POLL****** CLINTON 50 TRUMP 38 (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2016 OP
Boojah! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #1
ABC poll finds declining R interest in voting. If that persists it represents the doomsday scenario sunonmars Oct 2016 #11
And/or Trump's continued awfulness is making them less enthusiastic. Bibliovore Oct 2016 #34
Why vote if it is all completely rigged? Rs should just stay home in protest of all the cheating. BlueStreak Oct 2016 #48
I suspect many of the Republicans will leave the presidential choice blank. n/t duffyduff Oct 2016 #47
Holy crap. PCIntern Oct 2016 #2
Forget landslide, let's go for an avalanche liberal N proud Oct 2016 #3
I love that avalanche idea. Well said. nm AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #20
And stop congress from their ridiculous partisan witch hunts! bettyellen Oct 2016 #42
Avalanche creates the impression of continuous building of momentum. docgee Oct 2016 #43
And then scream: "MANDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" n/m Grins Oct 2016 #68
Yaaah!!!!! Details here Chasing Dreams Oct 2016 #4
Thanks for posting the link Hokie Oct 2016 #13
But what about the LA Times/Trojan Rubber/Dornscum Poll? Hokie Oct 2016 #5
LIBERAL BIAS? homegirl Oct 2016 #75
Trump supporters are feeling the embarrassment, and more and more are jumping ship. johnnyrocket Oct 2016 #6
Independents too Equinox Moon Oct 2016 #19
Yup Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #22
Talk about rigged elections Ardoewaan Oct 2016 #35
Seems about right Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #7
Donald Trump = Alf Landon? EricMaundry Oct 2016 #8
DONATE, PHONEBANK, CANVASS, LIT DROP, LTE's, SIGNS and BUMPER STICKERS, and VOTE VOTE VOTE. RBInMaine Oct 2016 #9
This! eom paleotn Oct 2016 #29
+1 emulatorloo Oct 2016 #30
I carried Gore signs and Kerry signs tavernier Oct 2016 #38
Yes! treestar Oct 2016 #60
Yes! GOTV! NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #78
Trump's monumental "Gettysburg Address" will turn the tide. oasis Oct 2016 #10
Woohoo! workinclasszero Oct 2016 #12
Early enough to make the talk shows Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #14
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2016 #15
Spot the odd one out.... sunonmars Oct 2016 #16
IBD (Irritable Bowel Disease) has Trump favored. Sounds about right. nt 4lbs Oct 2016 #53
Clinton leads slightly among male voters in new @ABC News tracking poll, 44-41%, a first in ABC poll riversedge Oct 2016 #17
Currently Trump is polling at 39% nationally. Carter/Mondale got 41%, Goldwater/Mcgovern got 38% sunonmars Oct 2016 #18
Thanks for putting this into some historical perspective. I think this means AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #31
Goldwater/McGovern? PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #50
It shows Hillary is taking votes from the 3rd Party candidates and INdemo Oct 2016 #21
Karl Rove Just Told The Fox News Panel That... writes3000 Oct 2016 #23
The GOP autopsy on Nov 9th is going to be something isn't it.... sunonmars Oct 2016 #25
Yep! But instead of having a GOP constituency who will listen... writes3000 Oct 2016 #28
The last two autopsies MyNameGoesHere Oct 2016 #46
Would have loved to see that Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #26
If you go on Twitter and search for Karl Rove, you'll find the video. writes3000 Oct 2016 #33
LOL! workinclasszero Oct 2016 #27
Maybe Megyn Kelly Needs to Run Down the Hallway Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #44
That was the BEST!!! PCIntern Oct 2016 #66
Every damn time angrychair Oct 2016 #70
Makes me want to relive that moment. Chicago1980 Oct 2016 #82
Hot damn! bagimin Oct 2016 #24
tRump tRounce! lonestarnot Oct 2016 #32
If this country was healthy intellectually it would be 95 to 5. The fact that almost 4 in 10 people Quixote1818 Oct 2016 #36
You are absolutely right blue-wave Oct 2016 #77
If we win, it's important because saltpoint Oct 2016 #37
Touche! blue-wave Oct 2016 #76
Does Trump think it's only the election that's rigged, or also the polls? Mr. Ected Oct 2016 #39
tROUT!! MoonRiver Oct 2016 #40
Was so tired of seeing Johnson at 8% or 9%. Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #41
This election by rights should be an Alf Landon-style blowout. duffyduff Oct 2016 #45
Dems 49%, Reps 33% in 1st day of EV. #NVGOTV ffr Oct 2016 #49
If you figure at least 90% of Democrats will vote for Hillary, but only 70% of Repukes for Trump, 4lbs Oct 2016 #54
That must have hurt for ABC to report - LOL Iliyah Oct 2016 #51
Whoaaaa! C'moon blue tide! Downballot here we come. GOTV! AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #52
Google #NVGOTV ffr Oct 2016 #56
Thanks for the link. The last one I read, they stopped at 3pm. Weird. AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #57
We can thank concerned Californians for some of this too. They're in NV on their own dime. ffr Oct 2016 #73
So much for triron Oct 2016 #55
Last night Lefthacker Oct 2016 #58
Yay! treestar Oct 2016 #59
You should probably let your Republican friends and co-workers know that PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #61
****** BREAKING ABC NATIONAL TRACKING POLL****** CLINTON 50 TRUMP 38. LenaBaby61 Oct 2016 #62
A bigly blowout in the making! DCBob Oct 2016 #63
50! 50! 50! YAY!!!! Avalux Oct 2016 #65
SWEET! ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #67
YES! If she wins that big on election night, Hillary should use... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #69
BAM! nt BootinUp Oct 2016 #71
Here's a nice visualization of what Hillary is doing to Trump BootinUp Oct 2016 #72
Wow. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #74
Just what I kind of thought it would be DemInND Oct 2016 #79
I think it's going to be such a blow out that Trump won't even bother reacting. C Moon Oct 2016 #80
. emmadoggy Oct 2016 #81
FIFTY! It's about damn time! BlueProgressive Oct 2016 #83

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
11. ABC poll finds declining R interest in voting. If that persists it represents the doomsday scenario
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:26 AM
Oct 2016

Trumps message of rigged is making them give up.

Hokie

(4,286 posts)
13. Thanks for posting the link
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:28 AM
Oct 2016

I like to look at the details on the polls. There is lots of good news in this poll but it's only one poll and the sample size isn't large for a national poll. If the followup daily tracking numbers support it that will bolster the trend.

The good new is that HRC is at her highest point ever and it is 50%. Trump hits an all time low at below 40%. Polling in the 30s at this late date should scare the crap out of his people. Also Johnson is fading. I am not at all surprised. Third party candidates usually fade closer to election day. They don't have the money to play the game on the big stage and it's one thing to say your going to vote for a 3rd party candidate in August and another to really throw your vote away in November.

I think it's thankfully too late for Trump to turn this around. Yesterday was his big reset the campaign day and what did he do? He led off his big speech with a petty threat to sue his female accusers. What the hell did he think was going to be the headline coming out of that speech? It surely wasn't going to be his stupid plan to bring manufacturing jobs back.

I think Mitch McConnell should spend time packing up his office in the coming months.

homegirl

(1,429 posts)
75. LIBERAL BIAS?
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 06:20 PM
Oct 2016

Liberal bias?

Does the news media have a liberal bias? Here are some claims and facts.

Claim: Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States. Fact: He was, but the Republican candidate who ran against him in 2008 was not. John McCain was born in Panama.

Claim: As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton was responsible for the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi. Fact: Four Americans were killed in 2012 during an attack on the embassy. In 1983, during the Reagan administration, a car bomb destroyed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 63 people, including 17 Americans. The embassy was moved to a supposedly more secure location. However, in 1984, another car bomb exploded, killing 22, including two Americans.

Claim: Clinton illegally used a private email server as secretary of state. Fact: There was no law against this practice. In 2007, it was discovered that some 50 officials in the George W. Bush administration were using a private email server run by the Republican National Committee. When Congress asked to review these emails, 22 million emails were deleted.

If the news media had a liberal bias, we would see more of these facts and fewer of these claims.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
22. Yup
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:03 AM
Oct 2016

And all this rigged talk is depressing their enthusiasm. This is the perfect storm, Hillary's ground game is going to sweep the swing states.

I just think Trump won't even perform as well as he's polling either. He's run a poor campaign strategy wise. Why you would tell your voters that their votes won't count because the election is rigged is beyond me, that was insanely stupid.

And very few people will split their tickets, you're going to see Senate races that showed Reps up 3 or more points in the polls go to the Dem. the coattails could be massive and unprecedented.

The rigged election narrative is a nightmare for the GOP and you can tell that Donald's campaign has no relationship with the GOP at a strategic level or they would have never let him go this route. It's crushing for them. Donald is effectively telling Republican voters to stay home. Keep up the good work Dipshit.

Ardoewaan

(144 posts)
35. Talk about rigged elections
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:29 AM
Oct 2016

has opened the possibility to talk about gerrymandered districts. That's why Republicans typically don't want to open that can of worms.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
9. DONATE, PHONEBANK, CANVASS, LIT DROP, LTE's, SIGNS and BUMPER STICKERS, and VOTE VOTE VOTE.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:20 AM
Oct 2016

Don't let up for one second. Push HARD to the finish line. Do ANYTHING you can to help.


Thanks!

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
38. I carried Gore signs and Kerry signs
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:48 AM
Oct 2016

and Obama and Hillary signs on busy street corners before their previous elections. I won't carry a Hillary sign now because I truly fear getting shot or run over. They've stolen all the Hillary signs in town, and it is a predominantly dem area, but there are a basketful of real nuts living here.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
78. Yes! GOTV!
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 08:15 PM
Oct 2016

We can't take anything for granted! I know it looks good at this point and I'm happy that it does, but that doesn't mean we let up. We need to work like we're behind.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
14. Early enough to make the talk shows
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:31 AM
Oct 2016

Would be cool to see this on the Sunday morning shows.

This isn't the ABC WAPO though.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
16. Spot the odd one out....
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:41 AM
Oct 2016

Live interview natl polls
Average: C+8.7
Atl./PRRI: C+15
ABC: C+12
Mon.: C+12
NBCWSJ: C+10
CBS: C+9
Selzer C+9
Bg C+8
Fox C+7
Q C+7
IBD T+2

This is a perfect storm building up. Down ticket Reps must be crapping themselves.

riversedge

(70,221 posts)
17. Clinton leads slightly among male voters in new @ABC News tracking poll, 44-41%, a first in ABC poll
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:44 AM
Oct 2016



Jennifer Granholm Retweeted
Evan McMurry ?@evanmcmurry 17m17 minutes ago

Clinton leads slightly among male voters in new @ABC News tracking poll, 44-41%, a first in ABC polling

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
31. Thanks for putting this into some historical perspective. I think this means
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:20 AM
Oct 2016

Clinton/Kaine will exceed 490 EVs because in the two past elections you mention both got 489 and 486 (I don't recall which one got which). Interesting.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
21. It shows Hillary is taking votes from the 3rd Party candidates and
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:02 AM
Oct 2016

among many other reasons,after seeing that terrible negative ad, by the PAC group for Trump while watching the Cub game I even more so am hoping for a complete landslide................

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
23. Karl Rove Just Told The Fox News Panel That...
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:06 AM
Oct 2016

He cannot see a way for Trump to win!

The Trump fans on Twitter are losing their minds!

YAY!

Cheering while I send in another donation!

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
28. Yep! But instead of having a GOP constituency who will listen...
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:15 AM
Oct 2016

Trump will have more than half of them convinced that the election was stolen.

It's going to be a mess for them.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
46. The last two autopsies
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:21 AM
Oct 2016

2008 and 2012 revealed that they lost because they are assholes to every group but white privileged males. They still don't believe in science, math, facts etc. I applaud their stupidity.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
26. Would have loved to see that
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:15 AM
Oct 2016

Although he made an ass out of himself in 2012, he's still the golden boy of election gurus on the Right.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
33. If you go on Twitter and search for Karl Rove, you'll find the video.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:24 AM
Oct 2016

I figured people wouldn't appreciate video links to Faux news here.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
70. Every damn time
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 05:24 PM
Oct 2016

I cannot watch that video without tearing up. Truly, by any measure, the greatest president of the modern era. Excited to see what comes next for him and his family!

Quixote1818

(28,936 posts)
36. If this country was healthy intellectually it would be 95 to 5. The fact that almost 4 in 10 people
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:40 AM
Oct 2016

would vote for someone this demented is extremely alarming to me.

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
77. You are absolutely right
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 08:07 PM
Oct 2016

It is very troubling that Donny might get 40% of the vote. I see a direct correlation between this and the destruction of public education. The reich wing wants an ignorant electorate without any cognitive thinking skills. Dark will be the day if they ever succeed in anointing a totalitarian dictator in the greatest bastion of hope in the world.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
37. If we win, it's important because
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:48 AM
Oct 2016

of the thousands of reasons Democrats and not Republicans should control the White House and Congress.

Who chooses Supreme Court vacancies, in particular, is an imperative.

It's also important that the Republicans be made to see that the attitudes and policies they vigorously pursued and welcomed and embodied from Nixon forward are neurotoxic to their survival as a national party. They need to feel the sting of voters' rejection. It's important that voters slap the GOP in the face. Hard.

The Republicans have not lifted a finger to make any changes in their far-right agenda because it worked for them for so long. Now Donald J. Trump heads their national ticket and the polling, just 16 days out, is tanking big time.

The Republicans ordered a fascist asshole. Delivery has been made. The box is sitting on their front porch.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
39. Does Trump think it's only the election that's rigged, or also the polls?
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:57 AM
Oct 2016

Because it'll be hard for him to cry foul on Election Day when all the polls leading up to the election are showing him getting his ass handed to him, and pundits from both sides of the aisle saying he's toast.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
45. This election by rights should be an Alf Landon-style blowout.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:20 AM
Oct 2016

With two weeks left, it could well be.

Trump should not carry a single state. However, the last time the EC was unanimous in favor of one candidate was back when George Washington was elected.

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
54. If you figure at least 90% of Democrats will vote for Hillary, but only 70% of Repukes for Trump,
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 12:00 PM
Oct 2016

that's even worse for him.

The other 30% of GrOPers will vote for Hillary, Johnson, or write-in someone else.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
73. We can thank concerned Californians for some of this too. They're in NV on their own dime.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 06:18 PM
Oct 2016

Spending their weekends here, gas, hotel costs, starting early and ending into the wee hours of the morning.

Inspirational GOTV effort! Thank you my lovely state neighbors!!!

You guys rock!

Lefthacker

(264 posts)
58. Last night
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 12:23 PM
Oct 2016

In Wrigley Field fans were holding up signs in the 6th inning on that said "It's Happening"! I said to myself no, no don't jinx it. Well, as far as this gut wrenching election, it's happening but we have to scratch and claw to the finish. Ground game baby!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
61. You should probably let your Republican friends and co-workers know that
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 12:30 PM
Oct 2016

a low voter turnout tends to favor Republicans, so their best strategy would be to not vote.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
65. 50! 50! 50! YAY!!!!
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 01:43 PM
Oct 2016

Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the first time Hillary has reached 50% this campaign.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
69. YES! If she wins that big on election night, Hillary should use...
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 05:06 PM
Oct 2016

... the word MANDATE a lot!

The GOP loves that word even when they manage a tiny win.

BootinUp

(47,150 posts)
72. Here's a nice visualization of what Hillary is doing to Trump
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 05:31 PM
Oct 2016


For some reason I have Batman on the brain today.

DemInND

(164 posts)
79. Just what I kind of thought it would be
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:22 PM
Oct 2016

I expected Hillary to get a spike after the third debate. But never assume something is over. Remember to vote! The more votes the better to make a large gap between Hillary and Dumpster. I'm sure Trump will get more bad news next week with more women coming forward. All downhill for Trump! I'll have to check 538 next week and see how they're doing.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
80. I think it's going to be such a blow out that Trump won't even bother reacting.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:40 AM
Oct 2016

He'll just (as he said) go play golf and disappear.

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