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JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:19 PM Oct 2016

Time to Stop Blaming Trump

Ultimately, he is what he is. It's awful, but he is genuinely who he is.

Instead, it's time to focus on those people who enabled him and who ultimately support most of his views and policies: the Republican Party.

The problem is not that all Republicans think the way this guy does. The problem is that they’ve been riding this tiger for a long time. They’ve been feeding their base all kinds of crazy for years, primarily for political expedience … -Pres. Barack Obama http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/obama-hits-gop-for-creating-trump-with-all-kinds-of-crazy.html
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Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
3. He's only done after the votes have been counted. No sense in getting over confident.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:24 PM
Oct 2016

Or have people learned nothing after 2000 and 2004?

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
5. I don't seem to recall anyone being overconfident then... in fact I recall a lot of nailbiting
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:28 PM
Oct 2016

However, as the POTUS has done, it's time to connect the dots, tie the albatross... however you want to metaphor it.


Trump is the nasty, nasty symptom... not the disease. However, that still makes him an inflamed pustule...

renate

(13,776 posts)
4. I think you're right
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:27 PM
Oct 2016

Besides, now that the election isn't even close any more, I'm not blaming him for anything--I'm thrilled that he is who he is. Given that people like him have apparently always existed in large numbers (I'd had no idea 40% of the US population were so awful), I'm very very grateful that he's such a terrible person and such a terrible candidate. Can you imagine if he'd been slick and glib and not so overtly rotten? If he'd held the same views but had managed to disguise himself as a viable candidate?

But you're right. It's not his fault that he attracts slavish devotion from racists and idiots. If they'd rejected him, he'd have gone away.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
7. sick and glib... you just described Ted Cruz
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:30 PM
Oct 2016

And yes, they were close to nominating him as well.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
6. I don't think we need to stop blaming Trump so much as just spread the blame to all participants. I
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:29 PM
Oct 2016

don't think Trump's rigged election claim would seem even remotely logical if it weren't for the GOP's years-long efforts to disenfranchise voters of the Democratic persuasion. I don't think Trump's suggestion of building a wall would have resonated if it weren't for years of immigrant bashing, right wing militia groups patrolling the border, and an unfettered wave of propaganda and misinformation in the right wing media.

I won't stop blaming Trump, because his policies and beliefs need to be tied into the Republican party better. Right now the GOP are acting like Trump is an anomaly, and that may be true, be they created the conditions for this and that can't go unanswered.

I'll take the "Spread the Blame" approach.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. plenty of blame from the top to the very, very bottom--the millions of racist dumbfuck losers
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:33 PM
Oct 2016

who are eagerly supporting him.

Philothea

(24 posts)
12. Donald just thinks he is an original
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 04:24 PM
Oct 2016

but he is the product of these assholes after a feast of sun dried tomatoes... the bowel movement comes to the pulpit as the pretty face!

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