2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWere the wikileaks release altered?
I thought they were...and now I need to be sure before I double down on it
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)There is an e-mail from Palmieri to Podesta saying that Hillary has begun to hate ordinary Americans, but had to promise to be their champion at least once to avoid a false start in Iowa. The e-mail makes no sense and it seems like an obvious fake, but who knows?
Democat
(11,617 posts)They are talking about speech writing and she doesn't want that cliche to be used in a speech.
As if she said she doesn't want to say "hoist with his own petard".
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democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)After reading the whole e-mail it seems obvious it was a reference to the phrase or maybe to the speech, but not to everyday Americans themselves.
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)And this one is barely English and makes little sense
And looks more like something straighr from breitbart
If they faked one, they can fake them all
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)I saw on here that Fox News Megyn Kelly had to read an apology on air for having read some of them, but couldn't find the clip of that.
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Had excerts from Newsweek article pasted in and attributed to another person
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635
Democat
(11,617 posts)Even though it's clear they are talking about speech writing, the Russians and Trump say that means she doesn't like what the phrase means.
See this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512497246
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)An op taking one of the emails completely out of context was just hidden here.
duncang
(1,907 posts)Eichenwald is also a journalist, but he noticed something strange about one of the emails. Apparently who ever hacked didn't do a good job of faking the email content.
http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635
During the DNC convention when the first email leaks came out from the dnc. Ex-cia Nance (Can't remember his full name) and security commentator warned a normal procedure would be to release something that had not been modified to gain trust. Then when what is really the goal to release modified info so it would have a better chance of being believed. He apparently hit the nail on the head.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)"Feeding conspiracy theories to Donald Trump is like getting cats interested in catnip. Trump and the people who follow him have that toxic blend of being pretty dumb while also thinking theyre smarter than everyone else a blend that makes one an easy mark for every two-bit conspiracy theory that comes along. All the Russians need to do is apprise themselves of the obsessions of right wing America an easy enough task when they blare them out night and day from their own propaganda outlets and craft stories that feed off those obsessions.
What this does confirm, however, is that the Trump camps half-hearted disavowals about loving Putin and his right-wing government are so much bullshit, since they clearly dont even wait for Russian propaganda to filter out to American websites to read it. No, Trump exposed that he or someone on his team is constantly hitting Russian propaganda outlets, waiting for Russian-crafted talking points to work into his speeches.
The Russians engage in a sloppy disinformation effort and, before the day is out, the Republican nominee for president is standing on a stage reciting the manufactured story as truth, Eichenwald wrote."
http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/russian-propaganda-on-wikileaks-makes-its-way-into-a-donald-trump-speech-in-record-time/
factfinder_77
(841 posts)At DU and other sites, there were posted a lot of Hillary hatred threads. And a lot of the Clinton critics used right wing talking Points that were easily debunked.
The debate environment were quite venomous, and to some degree it still is
factfinder_77
(841 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But some of the other hacks have definitely been altered.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Prove it .... Because no one has ever proven one word of anything he has ever released as being false