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Were the wikileaks release altered? (Original Post) LaydeeBug Oct 2016 OP
Yes. Shrike47 Oct 2016 #1
This latest batch must have been democrattotheend Oct 2016 #2
The email clearly says she doesn't want to use the cliche "everyday Americans" in speeches Democat Oct 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Democat Oct 2016 #8
That's my take as well democrattotheend Oct 2016 #15
Why even ask, they were proven faked Foggyhill Oct 2016 #3
where? Where were they proven fake? LaydeeBug Oct 2016 #4
The Friday one Foggyhill Oct 2016 #5
God Bless You, and God Bless America. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2016 #7
Here's a link to Kurt Eichenwald's piece explaining this particular case... pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #10
One email is clearly about speech writing and they are pulling small quotes out of context Democat Oct 2016 #9
Even if they weren't, the context will be abused. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #11
Sidney Blumenthal is a journalist. duncang Oct 2016 #12
I might need to use this, and I hope that's ok. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2016 #19
this is different, but here's an article about how Trump uses Russian propaganda renate Oct 2016 #13
Im sure there were a lot of Russian Opratives active in social media during the primary. factfinder_77 Oct 2016 #14
SOCIAL MEDIA AS A TOOL OF HYBRID WARFARE - NATO STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS factfinder_77 Oct 2016 #16
files -stolen- by 'some group' & then dumped on wikileaks are all suspect of alteration. Sunlei Oct 2016 #17
I haven't seen any proof that the documents from wiki are fake NWCorona Oct 2016 #18
I am not kidding, this is what came at me... LaydeeBug Oct 2016 #20
Appears so sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #21

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
2. This latest batch must have been
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:06 AM
Oct 2016

There is an e-mail from Palmieri to Podesta saying that Hillary has begun to hate ordinary Americans, but had to promise to be their champion at least once to avoid a false start in Iowa. The e-mail makes no sense and it seems like an obvious fake, but who knows?

Democat

(11,617 posts)
6. The email clearly says she doesn't want to use the cliche "everyday Americans" in speeches
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:44 AM
Oct 2016

They are talking about speech writing and she doesn't want that cliche to be used in a speech.

As if she said she doesn't want to say "hoist with his own petard".

Response to Democat (Reply #6)

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
15. That's my take as well
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:17 PM
Oct 2016

After reading the whole e-mail it seems obvious it was a reference to the phrase or maybe to the speech, but not to everyday Americans themselves.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
3. Why even ask, they were proven faked
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:12 AM
Oct 2016

And this one is barely English and makes little sense
And looks more like something straighr from breitbart

If they faked one, they can fake them all

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
4. where? Where were they proven fake?
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:17 AM
Oct 2016

I saw on here that Fox News Megyn Kelly had to read an apology on air for having read some of them, but couldn't find the clip of that.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
9. One email is clearly about speech writing and they are pulling small quotes out of context
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:57 AM
Oct 2016

Even though it's clear they are talking about speech writing, the Russians and Trump say that means she doesn't like what the phrase means.

See this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512497246

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. Even if they weren't, the context will be abused.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:00 PM
Oct 2016

An op taking one of the emails completely out of context was just hidden here.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
12. Sidney Blumenthal is a journalist.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:07 PM
Oct 2016

Eichenwald is also a journalist, but he noticed something strange about one of the emails. Apparently who ever hacked didn't do a good job of faking the email content.

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

During the DNC convention when the first email leaks came out from the dnc. Ex-cia Nance (Can't remember his full name) and security commentator warned a normal procedure would be to release something that had not been modified to gain trust. Then when what is really the goal to release modified info so it would have a better chance of being believed. He apparently hit the nail on the head.

renate

(13,776 posts)
13. this is different, but here's an article about how Trump uses Russian propaganda
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:07 PM
Oct 2016

"Feeding conspiracy theories to Donald Trump is like getting cats interested in catnip. Trump and the people who follow him have that toxic blend of being pretty dumb while also thinking they’re smarter than everyone else — a blend that makes one an easy mark for every two-bit conspiracy theory that comes along. All the Russians need to do is apprise themselves of the obsessions of right wing America — an easy enough task when they blare them out night and day from their own propaganda outlets — and craft stories that feed off those obsessions.

What this does confirm, however, is that the Trump camp’s half-hearted disavowals about loving Putin and his right-wing government are so much bullshit, since they clearly don’t even wait for Russian propaganda to filter out to American websites to read it. No, Trump exposed that he or someone on his team is constantly hitting Russian propaganda outlets, waiting for Russian-crafted talking points to work into his speeches.

“The Russians engage in a sloppy disinformation effort and, before the day is out, the Republican nominee for president is standing on a stage reciting the manufactured story as truth,” Eichenwald wrote."

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/russian-propaganda-on-wikileaks-makes-its-way-into-a-donald-trump-speech-in-record-time/

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
14. Im sure there were a lot of Russian Opratives active in social media during the primary.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:16 PM
Oct 2016

At DU and other sites, there were posted a lot of Hillary hatred threads. And a lot of the Clinton critics used right wing talking Points that were easily debunked.

The debate environment were quite venomous, and to some degree it still is

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
18. I haven't seen any proof that the documents from wiki are fake
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:35 PM
Oct 2016

But some of the other hacks have definitely been altered.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
20. I am not kidding, this is what came at me...
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 03:21 PM
Oct 2016

Prove it .... Because no one has ever proven one word of anything he has ever released as being false

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