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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:59 PM Oct 2016

Mike Pence’s lies don’t make him a ‘winner’

Mike Pence’s lies don’t make him a ‘winner’

by Michael A. Cohen at the Boston Globe

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/10/05/mike-pence-lies-don-make-him-winner/Tp9icZmzP4OA23NBIkswMO/story.html

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But there’s one major problem with this analysis: It ignores the fact that when Pence wasn’t misrepresenting the statements of his running mate, he told one lie after another.

Perhaps the most extraordinary example came when Kaine pointed out that Pence had called Russian strongman Vladimir Putin a better leader than President Obama. Pence denied this, even though there is widely-available video of him doing just that.

Pence’s statements on Russia were some of the most bizarre of the evening. He repeatedly criticized Putin as a “small and bullying leader,” which stands in stark contrast to Trump’s constant praise of the Russian president. He said the Russian provocations must be met with American “strength” and that the United States should consider attacking Bashar al-Assad’s forces in Syria. On both issues, Trump has said the opposite.

What was perhaps most striking about Pence’s performance is that he simply denied Trump said things that’s he clearly said. Though Kaine got ahead of his skis when he said that Trump wanted to get rid of NATO, he pointed out that Trump has called NATO “obsolete,” which Pence said wasn’t true (nope, Trump said it). He denied that Trump said more countries should have nuclear weapons (yup, Trump said that). He called Kaine’s claim that Trump wants to deport all undocumented immigrants “nonsense” (actually, it’s one of Trump’s few policy positions).

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napi21

(45,806 posts)
1. I spent almost the entire ti,e screaming at my TV! No, you don't want to know what
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 09:11 PM
Oct 2016

obscenity I was yelling. I truly will be happy when this darn campaign is over. I feel confident that Hillary will win. I just hope we cam give her a Dem. led Senate and if the gods really do shine on us on Nov. 8th, a Dem. House too!!!

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. I agree, but in my case, it was because I KNEW his history and reputation in Indiana.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 09:26 PM
Oct 2016

Even his own constituents want him GONE. Many were posting "Thank You notes for getting him out of their State.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
5. typical Matthews, goes back and forth, wants a horserace
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 03:57 AM
Oct 2016

he even said things before the debate that implied he would call it for Pence no matter what happen.

the media was only willing to recognize that Hillary wiped the floor with Trump in the first debate because the polls had been closing and she had a rough September.

which makes me worried about how they're going to spin the 2nd debate, now that she's up in the polls again.

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