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Blue Idaho

(5,500 posts)
9. Interesting...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
Oct 2016

I thought it was Kane quoting Trump and Pence denying Trump said what Trump said.

Cosmocat

(15,121 posts)
3. Only because Tim Kaine won clearly
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:39 PM
Oct 2016

So when the media applies the usual handicap to the D ...

ailsagirl

(24,067 posts)
4. "Nothing lost"
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:39 PM
Oct 2016

Good. In the final analysis, I don't think it will make a huge difference.

So I don't have to listen to the endless dissections of who won/who lost, etc. on TV

Except maybe Lawrence

Johnny2X2X

(22,619 posts)
6. Kaine won
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
Oct 2016

Pence did very well for himself, but could not defend Trump at all.

Kaine spoke to the swing voters a lot more. Kaine made more lasting points.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,867 posts)
17. I agree. I think Pence was stronger than Trump
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:49 PM
Oct 2016

But people don't decide who to vote for based on the VP.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
8. The NBC talking heads sound like they're giving it to Kaine.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
Oct 2016

They are all saying that even though Kaine interrupted and some may find that off-putting, he went after Donald time and time again - leaving Pence unable to defend his running mate.

That's the cream that will rise to the top.

womanofthehills

(9,605 posts)
18. Kaine was especially good on a women's right to choose & I also liked when he listed Trump quotes
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:56 PM
Oct 2016

Pence continually shaking his head over statements everyone knew as true made him seem like an ever bigger liar than Trump. Pence (another sociopath) talking about being a Christian and getting on his knees to pray each day (forgive me God, for I have lied)- give me a break!

drray23

(8,176 posts)
13. Not so sure.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:42 PM
Oct 2016

After the fact checking and analysis of the debate it will become clear that pence pretty much lied every time he denied having said something or Trump having said something .

Greywing

(1,129 posts)
14. Kaine won with "Why can't you trust women to make decisions for themselves"
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:44 PM
Oct 2016

I think that will be take away from this debate. I think that helped with the women's vote and will resound with them.

Bernardo de La Paz

(53,853 posts)
15. "nothing lost"? No. tRump lost. Pence had no defence. Hillary gained lists of accomplishments.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:46 PM
Oct 2016

Kaine was very good. Pence was tough, but Kaine had the edge. And Kaine had the better finish.

Ace Rothstein

(3,338 posts)
16. Agreed.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:47 PM
Oct 2016

It was very back on forth on who I thought was doing better. It won't matter, VP debates don't move the needle unless you have a complete disaster like Palin involved.

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