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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 09:25 AM Sep 2016

What is the big surprise? Truman had them figured out in 1948.

Harry Truman (1948):
Well, I have been studying the Republican Party for over 12 years at close hand in the Capital of the United States. And by this time, I have discovered where the Republicans stand on most of the major issues. Since they won't tell you themselves, I am going to tell you. They approve of the American farmer--but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor a minimum wage--the smaller the minimum the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them... They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off.... They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.

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What is the big surprise? Truman had them figured out in 1948. (Original Post) CK_John Sep 2016 OP
That is awesome. Moostache Sep 2016 #1
The MSM of his day portrayed Truman as pitifully inadequate Hortensis Sep 2016 #20
Korea, yes. And then, of course, there were that Little Boy and the Fat Man. pangaia Sep 2016 #27
Oh, yes. He was the one. Hortensis Sep 2016 #28
K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2016 #2
I heard it from a former professor bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #3
Quite simply - They DON'T Want To Help You. calimary Sep 2016 #11
A GREAT American hero............. MyOwnPeace Sep 2016 #4
Truman was the most liberal President we've ever had First Speaker Sep 2016 #5
^^^ heaven05 Sep 2016 #6
This is why I cringe when I hear the words "moderate" Republican. Scruffy1 Sep 2016 #7
Republican values sound wonderful on paper ffr Sep 2016 #8
GOP can be voted out, but never flushed out vlyons Sep 2016 #24
Ah, the good old days...n/t jtuck004 Sep 2016 #9
give 'em hell, harry!!! spot on!! niyad Sep 2016 #10
I'm only telling them the truth and they think it's hell hibbing Sep 2016 #14
exactly niyad Sep 2016 #15
Today I think he would say: Old Terp Sep 2016 #36
welcome to du. and, I do believe he would. niyad Sep 2016 #37
"And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it." Done. Auggie Sep 2016 #12
Wow PatSeg Sep 2016 #13
K&R nt Granny M Sep 2016 #16
k and r...nt Stuart G Sep 2016 #17
Yup. Off-the-charts awesome. NT pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #18
Link to text of the entire speech BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #19
that speech is amazing. would you please post it as its own op for greater visibility, niyad Sep 2016 #38
Campaign Ad erpowers Sep 2016 #21
+1 harun Sep 2016 #29
Here are a couple more... liberal N proud Sep 2016 #22
Oh I love it! vlyons Sep 2016 #23
Wow, how times have changed! HenryWallace Sep 2016 #25
Republicans don't like people to talk about depressions. You can hardly blame them for that. annabanana Sep 2016 #26
I'm a big Harry Truman fan. This Saturday, September 3 there will be shadowwinds Sep 2016 #30
Great to know-- I'll try to watch ailsagirl Sep 2016 #32
Give 'em hell, Harry! Nitram Sep 2016 #31
Truman had Nixon pegged from the start. Drunken Irishman Sep 2016 #33
And How About a Little Love for the Guy Who Pushed Truman in Those Directions? workersuntie Sep 2016 #34
Was the only person who thought he would win in 1948 Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2016 #35
you mean this? niyad Sep 2016 #39
Good Find! Paka Sep 2016 #40
K&R! DemonGoddess Sep 2016 #41
K&R n/t Dalai_1 Sep 2016 #42
I can't find that anywhere, link, please? marble falls Sep 2016 #43
Took me all of 2 seconds to Google it ET Awful Sep 2016 #44
I used Duckduckgoose and it didn't find it. Thanks for the link. Not for the snark. From Snopes: marble falls Sep 2016 #45
+1000 kairos12 Sep 2016 #46
been there bora13 Sep 2016 #47

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. The MSM of his day portrayed Truman as pitifully inadequate
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 12:17 PM
Sep 2016

and incompetent through his entire presidency. They included people like Edward R. Murrow and others considered such eminent journalists that we recognize their names today, but it was the same-old insiders' club group-think we suffer from now. Fortunately America ("re-&quot elected him despite them.

I watched a panel of presidential historians a handful of years ago agree that if he wasn't one of our greatest presidents (Korea), he was definitely a near-great worthy of at least a profile on Mt. Rushmore.

bucolic_frolic

(43,222 posts)
3. I heard it from a former professor
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

'Republicans want to restrict the benefits of society to those who
have the money to buy them'

He was a former activist with Americans for Democratic Action, 1960s

Harry Truman's ideas may have influenced him!

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
7. This is why I cringe when I hear the words "moderate" Republican.
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Sep 2016

Some are just slicker than others. Some are just a little slicker than others.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
8. Republican values sound wonderful on paper
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:24 AM
Sep 2016

But they're the last people on Earth to actually follow through on any of them. Which is why we need to flush the GOP out of our system. They've been a virus that has made our country and our politics sick for far too long.

No
More
Republis!

GOTV 2016 & 2018.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
24. GOP can be voted out, but never flushed out
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 12:29 PM
Sep 2016

Because they are animated by greed, hatred, and envy. Those are human characteristics that are difficult to overcome.

niyad

(113,474 posts)
38. that speech is amazing. would you please post it as its own op for greater visibility,
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 09:51 PM
Sep 2016

and so we can rec the whole thing!!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
21. Campaign Ad
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 12:20 PM
Sep 2016

If there is any audio of this quote it needs to be put in an ad. The ad should end with the words, "Right in 1948, right in 2016.

liberal N proud

(60,338 posts)
22. Here are a couple more...
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 12:20 PM
Sep 2016

The Republican Party either corrupts its liberals or it expels them.
Read more at http://www.notable-quotes.com/t/truman_harry_s.html#FVseQTL3CkoQCS5B.99



Socialism is a scareword they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

HARRY S. TRUMAN, speech, Oct. 10, 1952
Read more at http://www.notable-quotes.com/t/truman_harry_s.html#FVseQTL3CkoQCS5B.99



Republicans don't like people to talk about depressions. You can hardly blame them for that. You remember the old saying: Don't talk about rope in the house where somebody has been hanged.
Read more at http://www.notable-quotes.com/t/truman_harry_s.html#FVseQTL3CkoQCS5B.99

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
26. Republicans don't like people to talk about depressions. You can hardly blame them for that.
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 02:21 PM
Sep 2016

You remember the old saying: Don't talk about rope in the house where somebody has been hanged.

brilliant!

shadowwinds

(22 posts)
30. I'm a big Harry Truman fan. This Saturday, September 3 there will be
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 05:59 PM
Sep 2016

two programs about Truman on c-span3 at:

12:00PM Harry Truman's Political Relationships

Historians discuss President Harry Truman’s leadership and how he interacted with three prominent Texas politicians, John Nance Garner, Sam Rayburn, and Lyndon B. Johnson.


1:00PM Harry Truman and Public Service

54 minutes
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright speaks with historian Michael Beschloss about Harry Truman’s commitment to public service as both vice president and president.

IF you can't watch it at that time on TV, you can go ANYTIME online to

https://www.c-span.org/

and search for the title of these two shows, or just search for Harry Truman.

If you haven't used c-span before there are TONS of videos of so many great progressives and other great thinkers available on C-SPAN.

Search for Howard Zinn, Chris Hedges, Thom Hartmann, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, David Corn, Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, Richard Wolf, Joseph Stiglitz, Ralph Nadar, Greg Palast, Glenn Greenwald, Robert Reich, FDR, just about any nonfiction author, president,(or first lady), and politicians etc. you can think of.

It's a Cornucopia for the inquisitive mind.

It really beats Reality TV shows by a mile, because, well, because it IS reality!!!!!


 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
33. Truman had Nixon pegged from the start.
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 07:52 PM
Sep 2016
"Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he'd lie just to keep his hand in."

workersuntie

(34 posts)
34. And How About a Little Love for the Guy Who Pushed Truman in Those Directions?
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 08:18 PM
Sep 2016
Studs Terkel (and many others, I'm sure) has pointed out that a key factor pushing Truman to become the progressive that he became for the 1948 election was FDR's previous vice president, Henry Wallace: one of the 20th century's greatest progressive Democrats -- a guy whom FDR esteemed very highly -- and who ran for president as a Progressive in 1948.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,662 posts)
35. Was the only person who thought he would win in 1948
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 08:44 PM
Sep 2016

And proceeded to lead the greatest political campaign in presidential election history. The man was a fighter who never quit.

marble falls

(57,134 posts)
45. I used Duckduckgoose and it didn't find it. Thanks for the link. Not for the snark. From Snopes:
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 07:35 AM
Sep 2016

"I got this quote on my Facebook page today, and I re-posted it without thinking. Then I decided to fact check it. A quick Bing or Google search only brings up blogs or sites that are also just re-quoting the same thing.

Did Harry Truman, indeed, say the following:

"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home — but not for housing. They are strong for labor — but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage — the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all — but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine — for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing — but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing — so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it." "

I wasn't the only one.

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
46. +1000
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:15 AM
Sep 2016

I would add they support all wars as long as they or their family, don't have to do the dying. Chickenhawk wing of the Rethugs.

bora13

(860 posts)
47. been there
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:50 AM
Sep 2016

try being a stepchild of a right wing nut. three of us in the military at some point.
the stepfathers' kids, not one.

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