2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKornacki on MSNBC Just Showed Latest Polls: Trump Is SO Fucked!
Losing badly in PA, FL and other states that he needs to flip to have any prayer of winning. Now down 17 points in NH, which Trump thinks he can win.
The message today is that the vast majority of polls now consistently show him losing at historic levels in every state he needs to win to have a chance. Double-digit gaps opening up in many battleground states.
BONUS POINTS: right before Kornacki came on, MSNBC had Jon Ralston on from Hillary's rally in Vegas. He is calling NV for Hillary as Trump is falling way behind in voter registration and other important initiatives because he has no campaign structure at all in NV. Says outside of Trump diehards Trump has made no gains at all in NV.
WheelWalker
(8,960 posts)prarie deem
(115 posts)japple
(9,863 posts)this election.
ailsagirl
(22,922 posts)...then I am guilty. But I well know we can't take anything for granted and that I won't rest easy until we're sure that charlatan is voted O-U-T
Tarheel_Dem
(31,260 posts)stopbush
(24,404 posts)Doodley
(9,192 posts)PJMcK
(22,102 posts)that's all because this little sub-thread amuses me
tecelote
(5,122 posts)I'm scared. I'll admit it.
We're not winning by a wide enough margin.
A new candidate could wreck havoc.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)After that they can't replace him and the Rethugs will be stuck with NOTHING!
MFM008
(19,848 posts)he just keeps spraying crap.
I expect a lot of disgruntled racists on Nov 8.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Response to MichiganVote (Reply #9)
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MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Just one I hope.
japple
(9,863 posts)redneck corner of NW Georgia. I see respected folks from my community--nurses, doctors, ministers, teachers, city/county admins. posting their support for Drumpf all day every day. They are in the majority in the bible belt.
deancr
(150 posts)Not all republicans are bears, but all bears are republicans.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Hillary has her ground game plus Obama's. Trump is a rank amateur at campaigning, and I doubt that he can beat two first-rate seasoned campaigns working together. While Trump is tweeting, Hillary is registering voters.
TeamPooka
(24,342 posts)stopbush
(24,404 posts)It's what's called a losing strategy.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)and not swing states.
stopbush
(24,404 posts)he can wrest ONE electoral vote from that state (they have proportional awarding of electoral votes).
He's wasting time and resources he doesn't have to waste.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)How many electoral votes does Russia have?
Campaigning in blue and red states is a plus for him, since he loses votes in practically every place he campaigns. If he loses votes in a blue state, it doesn't matter. If he loses some votes in a red state, the majority will still vote for him. If he loses votes in a swing state, that may be enough to tip the balance toward Clinton.
kimbutgar
(21,318 posts)If we stay home Cheeto could still win. The hateful, disgusting racists will still be voting for the con man. They are not going away and they are going to lose their $hit is Cheeto is defeated in a landslide. Cheeto will say the election was rigged even if the win by Hillary is hugge!
stopbush
(24,404 posts)kimbutgar
(21,318 posts)anamandujano
(7,004 posts)"WE MUST MAKE IT REAL BY VOTING."
Hopefully if the electorate gets used to seeing these ads, they will also have it etched in their minds to vote come hell or high agua.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 4, 2016, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)
It is no longer a matter of merely winning. We are aiming at a landslide to beat Trump to a pulp and to retake the Senate and the House. I for one feel more motivated than ever before in my life to help give the Republicans a sound drubbing.
brooklynite
(95,170 posts)Remarkable polling tidbit about Philly suburbs via @SteveKornacki:
In 2012 Obama beat Romney there 54-45
Clinton is now beating Trump 60-20
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)livetohike
(22,175 posts)today, who is right wing and he hates Trump. The majority of callers were voting for Hillary (whom he also hates).
barbtries
(28,829 posts)was it covered also? thank you
0rganism
(24,006 posts)October is the spoopiest month
GreenPartyVoter
(72,388 posts)prarie deem
(115 posts)to cringe when I see these kind of pronouncements? I think complacency could give them openings plus 3 months is an eternity in poltics. I agree that if he keeps his daily fucks ups, we are good but who knows what will come up, real or fake that they will use. Maybe my fear comes from years observing the you are so seldom surprised when you over estimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
stopbush
(24,404 posts)when they declared the Titanic to be unsinkable.
We need to stop concerning ourselves that there exist imaginary, conscious forces that are sitting out there to provide justice after death and deserved comeuppance to those who dare to tempt fate. That's all superstition/religion-based bullshit.
When it comes to not getting out to vote in November, there is a much greater chance of that happening with voters who have become despondent and have given up on their clearly losing candidate than is the chance that people backing a projected winner will stay home because they feel their vote isn't needed, if for no other reason than people like to back a winner, not a loser.
ffr
(22,684 posts)...that he also lost very closely. Which state was that with its 4 electoral votes?
Nevada
Why its important to push pink states and allocate resources to turn them blue, wonderful blue.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,113 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,113 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,614 posts)Let's keep our edge, not count our chickens
Let's push ourselves to excel
Democratic county committees are everywhere, needing help
Turnout is everything
Johnny2X2X
(19,388 posts)Brutal beat down!!!
apnu
(8,765 posts)I don't think anything like his has ever happened in American history.
Mr.Bill
(24,394 posts)is for Hillary to win Texas. That would be twisting the knife.
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