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a little reassurance for those concerned about the polls (Original Post) TheSarcastinator Jul 2016 OP
I'd say, get a life Mass Jul 2016 #1
I understand the anxiety people have about these numbers TheSarcastinator Jul 2016 #3
Gallup was repeatedly warned that they under sampled minorities. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #5
I agree with you... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #7
Here is On the Media's consumer guide to election polls ehrnst Jul 2016 #2
+1 treestar Jul 2016 #8
Nate gives her an 80% chance of winning CanonRay Jul 2016 #4
538 relies on the polls TeddyR Jul 2016 #6
538 takes into account several factors before weighing a poll ehrnst Jul 2016 #9
Mittens didn't scare me nearly as much as Trumper does. redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #10

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
3. I understand the anxiety people have about these numbers
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jul 2016

the prospect of a Trump presidency is freaking horrific...so saying "get a life" to those concerned seems a bit arrogant and juvenile...but you rock on with your bad self.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. Gallup was repeatedly warned that they under sampled minorities.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jul 2016

Remember this is the most hallowed name in polling. Rather than revisit their methodology they doubled down.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
7. I agree with you...
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jul 2016

The media can depress turnout and enthusiasm with the push of illegitimate polls. For those of us working to GOTV, it can be a major hurdle.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
4. Nate gives her an 80% chance of winning
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jul 2016

and that is only going to go up. The MSM wants a horse race, so expect to see shit polls.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
6. 538 relies on the polls
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jul 2016

And if the polls are off then 538 is off. See the Dem primary in Michigan this year, where I think he gave Hillary like a 95% or higher chance of winning.

Setting that aside, a poll that shows Trump ahead by 7% is probably no more reliable than one showing Hillary ahead by 12% (or whatever the ridiculously high number was from last week). I imagine that Hillary is ahead by about 5% nationally and that it is closer than that in some critical swing states. The debates may be especially important this year because I don't think Trump is going to play well at all to a national audience.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. 538 takes into account several factors before weighing a poll
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jul 2016

They weigh for conservative/liberal leaning, and several other factors.

They don't just aggregate, and have a better record than just about everyone else:



http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-fivethirtyeight-senate-forecast-model-works/

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
10. Mittens didn't scare me nearly as much as Trumper does.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jul 2016

We decided last night to stop watching any TV news programs. I don't want to see orange man on my screen 24/7.

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